Need help on deciding my future plans

[AF1JZ]

1. Buy an Aristo 2JZ and have Dr Tweak do the wiring harness and go BPU for now.

2. Use my 2jzge that is already in the car and do like hotscennesy or p5150 is doing with a big single, piggyback and what not.


I am have about 3 grand to spend. I'm more leaning towards option 1.

[LilMissMkIII]

I'm a fan of NA-Ts, so I say option 2 :)

[AF1JZ]

I'm a fan of NA-Ts, so I say option 2 :)

Put your vote in then chicky ;)

[SupraOfDoom]

BPU Aristo. BPU TT's are fun.

[TopNotch2JZ]

It's gotta be GE plus a big single. First thing you gotta do though is a thicker headgasket. Thats all you have to do to the Motor. I know a couple guys that have made over 700whp with just a headgasket in the GE motor.

[AF1JZ]

Serious? It would probably be cheaper and yield more HP to do the NA-T huh? Do I keep the distributor and everything else? I'm only looking for about 400whp for now.

[SupraOfDoom]

Yeah I've heard a lot of good things about NA-T I guess.

[LilMissMkIII]

Put your vote in then chicky ;)

Whoopsy!

Done now :)

I think you'll get more bang for your buck going NA-T... Plus, big singles are sexy :love:

[GrimJack]

My concern with the Aristo engines is the same as all used engines... unless you break it open, inspect it, and likely replace a bunch of bits, you are putting someone else's problems into your car. And if you're going to break it open and rebuild it, why not start with the one you have now?

How well would you treat an engine that you KNOW you are going to throw away before it hits 60k miles? Not very well, I'm willing to bet.

I've lost track of the number of engines I've seen go straight from a JDM importer into a car over here, that were just plain busted.

[suprahero]

NA-T plus T66............:evil2:

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Good luck either way.....now

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OH, yeah, check out www.clubna-t.com for more proof.

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[AF1JZ]

I think I'm going to do NA-T. Thanks for your words of wisdom Dave. It is now time to order stuff. What turbo do you guys think I should go for? I have a Turbonetics 57-trim/.63ar that I can get rebuilt. I'm also thinking the Masterpower T70. I'm hearing good things from them.

[MK3.0dudeman]

I voted for the first one because you could always go with a bigger turbo down the road

[GrimJack]

Can't go wrong with a Garrett, they seem to be taking names and kicking ass these days. Get Doward to suggest the right sizing for your goals...

[Big Wang Bandit]

NA-T Yields Great Success!

[Zumtizzle]

Na-t!

[SupraDreamPDR]

If your current 2JZGE is in good condition, then I say got NA-T.

[AF1JZ]

I'd say it is pretty good. I'm pretty much positive I'm going NA-T. I just have to wait for the bank check to clear for selling my MKIII. Then it's time to order stuff.

[TopNotch2JZ]

The biggest downfall on all MKIV NA-T's is the transmissions. If you are auto you are only good for about 320 hp and the 5-speeds are truely hit and miss with most blowing at about 4-450hp while I have seen a couple go 600+. I went ahead and got the 6-speed V160 though for when I got NA-T just so I don't gotta worry. LOL.

[AF1JZ]

I wish I had the money to buy the V160. How would I be able to make the tranny hold more than 320hp? Maybe I'll just get the w58 and ditch the auto tranny. I would just need to get the tranny, master cylinder, clutch pedal, and front drive shaft right? And the clutch and flywheel of course.

[TopNotch2JZ]

Sadly, I think there is just no hope for the auto tranny unless you send it somewhere to have it built. Like I said with the w58's, it's kind of hit or miss with them. I know a guy that broke 2 @ 440whp, and others that have broken them with less, and another guy that said he made over 700 with his. His is reputable too. It finally did give out on him too though, but it lasted wayyy longer than anyone else's. It's all about how you shift though. You pretty much nailed the swap down, also get a new slave cylinder, go ahead and replace the line from the clutch master cylinder to the slave cylinder with a SS braided one since it's only like $45. You can definately find w58's for only a couple hundred dollars though.

Another alternative you might want to look into is doing the r154 swap. More expensive than the w58, but can hold a lot more horsepower, and it's definately cheaper than the v160 swap! Plus with all these mkiii people that you probably know, you could snag one for cheap, then it might not even cost more than the w58! You gotta have a 1JZ bellhousing though!

[suprahero]

You can get the rebuild kit for your car from IPT, but they're expensive. I just bought one for Vonda's car and it was $612.00, plus another six hundred dollars for them to rebuild the valve body, and another four hundred dollars for the transmission place to rebuild it. When it's done though, it'll be one hell of a strong transmission..............hopefully.

[Wills7MGTE]

I voted option 1, since wiring is not that big a deal and you'd get ab etter result. BPU would be fun for a bit then you could upgrade but at least you don't have to convert he manifold, or head or any of that crap.

[Quin]

I voted option 2. Thicker hg (just a stock GTE HG will work fine) and single and go fast. I'd also say just get an R154 until you can afford a V160. Driftmotion can make a shifter extension so it'll work just right, they did it for Element not too long ago.

[88mkIIIproject]

Another alternative you might want to look into is doing the r154 swap. More expensive than the w58, but can hold a lot more horsepower, and it's definately cheaper than the v160 swap! Plus with all these mkiii people that you probably know, you could snag one for cheap, then it might not even cost more than the w58! You gotta have a 1JZ bellhousing though!


+1, if your gonna do it, I would spend the extra $$ on the r154 over the w58 for that little bit extra peace of mind.

I'm looking forward to your build! NA-T's are pretty awesome

[AF1JZ]

Well, I have the money to spend (about $3000) in my account. I just need to order. This is what I am probably going to buy. I've read a lot of great reviews on it on ClubNA-T.com. http://forum.clubna-t.com/showthread.php?t=2037

Now I just have to get all the small odds and ends. This is what else I'm going to get...

Water pump
Fuel pump
1.3mm Headgasket and complete kit http://forum.clubna-t.com/showthread.php?t=3179
Timing belt and idler pulley
Electronic boost controller/turbo timer http://forum.clubna-t.com/showthread.php?t=4817
HKS Hi-Power exhaust
2.5'' Intercooler piping kit
Downpipe
Wideband
Toyota 4 Runner Distributor
Plugs/wires
Waterpump
ARP head studs
SAFC
Injectors

Now, I just have to decide on the tranny. I'd really like to do the R154. I'm just looking at what kind of money I want to spend. I actually have $6000 total to spend. But, I have to throw down a couple grand on my CBR to get it within range to sell it.

Oh the decision, the decisions.

[foreverpsycotic]

Do yourself a favor, buy 98mkivs turbo kit and use the turbo that you have. Then get the injectors, HG, ARPS and piggyback.

BTW, I know someone with a real good condition r154 :) Shoot me a pm.

[AF1JZ]

I just sent 98mkiv the money this morning for his Turbo kit, IC piping kit, Electronic boost controller/turbo timer, and his 1.3mm HG kit.

How much for the R154 that you know of?

[foreverpsycotic]

I will b happy to say, not much. 250 and it is yours, picked up. Depending on how far into NJ you are, I am willing to drive it to you for the cost of gas. No grinds, ~120k on it and it is the smoothing shifting r154 I have felt. We can negotiate a little on price though, but it will probably be ~300 dropped off in the E-Town area.

[AF1JZ]

PM'd you about the tranny.

[TopNotch2JZ]

Right on!

[Blk96SupraTT]

I know this is probably too late since you probably already made up your mind and alrite got the parts. But heres my 2 cents anyways.

Option 1 is not gonna happen. Parts alone will cost you more then $3K before any labor and anything else.

Option 2 is your option that you have chosen and looks to be the most bang for the buck.

As for you R154 tranny, i hope your getting one out of a Soarer and not a MKIII. Reason being the position of the shifter on the 2 trannies. The one from the MKIII sits more upfront and from what i hear will not work on a MKIV. As where the one from the Soarer will fit in the MKIV alot better.

[10secdream]

Na-t

[supramanocnsd]

I know this is probably too late since you probably already made up your mind and alrite got the parts. But heres my 2 cents anyways.

Option 1 is not gonna happen. Parts alone will cost you more then $3K before any labor and anything else.

Option 2 is your option that you have chosen and looks to be the most bang for the buck.

As for you R154 tranny, i hope your getting one out of a Soarer and not a MKIII. Reason being the position of the shifter on the 2 trannies. The one from the MKIII sits more upfront and from what i hear will not work on a MKIV. As where the one from the Soarer will fit in the MKIV alot better.


hmm I did not know that about the r154... then again I dont work with them... but great info for those on here doing this... I think it looks like he is going NA T