master power t-70 [Archive]

stevenr816

11-05-2007, 01:49 PM

Doward

11-05-2007, 04:23 PM

hey all,
im getting ready to do a 1jz swap. i've decided to go with a single and found a mp t70 for pretty cheap.

these are the specs i have on it:
P-trim
A/R Size: .68

has anyone used this turbo on 1jz applications?
all input would be great

A T70 on a 1JZ is almost too big, unless you are talking a WOT only runner. I would not be surprised to see minor surge issues on a 2.5L motor with this turbo.

It is, however, a very powerful turbo on a 3.0L motor.

foreverpsycotic

11-05-2007, 05:21 PM

Will you be using this with the stock ECU or with a standalone? With a standalone, you should be able to give enough timing to spool that bad buy before 4500 rpm. I would rather see a 1jz running with a master power t61 or a t64 with a p-trim though.

stevenr816

11-05-2007, 08:59 PM

A T70 on a 1JZ is almost too big, unless you are talking a WOT only runner. I would not be surprised to see minor surge issues on a 2.5L motor with this turbo.

It is, however, a very powerful turbo on a 3.0L motor.
will also i forgot to add that im actually doing a 1.5jz so i will have a 3L block

drjonez

11-10-2007, 06:56 PM

if it's the ebay "T70", it's not a real T70.....

foreverpsycotic

11-11-2007, 02:00 PM

if it's the ebay "T70", it's not a real T70.....
I might be assuming here, but I think he is talking about this t70, not an ebay one.

http://partsexpressonline.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=74&osCsid=f7e05876a3f34d3202a26a046d488981

And IIRC, all MP turbos use Garrett internals with their own housings.

Jostar

11-11-2007, 08:34 PM

I might be assuming here, but I think he is talking about this t70, not an ebay one.

http://partsexpressonline.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=74&osCsid=f7e05876a3f34d3202a26a046d488981

And IIRC, all MP turbos use Garrett internals with their own housings.

I think MasterPower used to make the Turbos for Garret, Not sure on this though, But the MasterPower T70 is a good turbo, My friend has one in his EvoII & Made 700hp & has ran a 10.23@146 mph, I'll post pics of his car later when i find them.

MDCmotorsports

11-11-2007, 09:32 PM

I have a friend who is running a Master Power (real) T70 on his 1jz, with Emanage.

It pulls hard just past 3500-3700 all the way to redline.

Dyno is comming in around 500rwhp.

pimptrizkit

11-13-2007, 02:20 PM

MDC, you have a dyno graph of his pull? What PSI did he make around 500rwhp at?

hottscennessey

11-13-2007, 02:21 PM

I saw 27PSI by 4350RPM's.. but this was with a lot of timing.

pimptrizkit

11-13-2007, 02:36 PM

hottscennessey, meth injection or race gas? What was your max power at 27 psi? NA-T 2jz right? 27psi before 4500rpm seems like a huge kick in the pants.

hottscennessey

11-13-2007, 09:08 PM

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5880/scan0001wz6.jpg

Meth injection with 5 gallons of 110 for safety (too bad I couldn't hit max boost because of a weak WG spring).

Yes this was on the 2JZGE NA-T ~8:1 CR. I'm bumping it up to ~9:1 when I put the new HG on.

Another thing to note.. I have a dyno printout w/ the boost on it. I just havn't scanned it in... but the boost line overlaps the tq line perfectly.. full boost was at max torque so this dyno should give you a VERY clear idea of this turbos behavior.

Adjuster

11-13-2007, 09:10 PM

Mine has 69.5mm compressor minor in a .70 polished housing, hot side is P trim with a .63 undivided cast iron T4 flanged housing.

It is the T-70 being sold by Mike turbo on eBay. It was just over 600.00 shipped.

Qualty of workmanship is as good as any other turbo I've looked over.

I have not used it yet however, but expect it will spool up fine on my 3.24L and 9:1 CR. :)

Boost Lee

11-14-2007, 01:21 AM

I have a friend who is running a Master Power (real) T70 on his 1jz, with Emanage.

It pulls hard just past 3500-3700 all the way to redline.

Dyno is comming in around 500rwhp.

I'm assuming you're talking about Steve.

As for reference to a MP T70 on a 1JZ.......
It actually spools well for the size and when it hits, it hits HARD.
I was skeptical at first on how it would perform on a 2.5L when I knew on a 7M, it was amazing...

But after seeing Steve's T70'd 1JZ and then a guy in Kentucky has a 1JZ SC300 with a T70 and they are both making AMAZING streetable power.

Just my .02 cents. ;)

-Jeff

pimptrizkit

11-15-2007, 02:05 PM

Im just wondering, isnt that a little low on the HP side for this size of turbo at that PSI? A GT4088 (62mm wheel) would produce the same power at that psi on race gas. This T70 should be a little larger than a GT4088 right? I was expecting to see 650-700 on race gas at 30psi

hottscennessey

11-16-2007, 03:26 PM

Yea, I feel that my numbers are a little low.. I wish there were more graphs to compare with.

hottscennessey

11-21-2007, 09:18 AM

I just thought I'd respond to my previous post. I found one reason why my numbers are low..

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3700/img192tq6.jpg

that huge hole all from a rubbing IC pipe.

I'll re-dyno with the fixed pipe, cold weather, and ~8.7CR to give this turbo it's fair shot.

meet07

12-10-2007, 07:41 PM

I beleive this master power t70 turbo isnt as big as everyone is thinking. I had the other t70( .70 comp housing-.84 turbine) and thats big. It was capably of 600+ hp and I had it on a 1.6. It was laggy. With the .68 the master power should spool up fairly quickly. I think it would be a great street turbo. and its twin scrolled too.....hella fast spool.

drjonez

12-11-2007, 01:18 PM

....and its twin scrolled too.....hella fast spool.

newflash: twin scroll does NOTHING else you have a manifold designed for it.

meet07

12-11-2007, 06:53 PM

^ Why would you buy a twin scroll turbo if you didnt have a twin scroll header flange???

drjonez

12-12-2007, 06:40 PM

nothing wrong w/using a twin scroll housing on a std. flange.

again, without a manifold DESIGNED for it, twin scroll does nothing.

Dutch7m

12-13-2007, 02:31 PM

what about the bolt-on one from hybrid motorsports?
will there be difference in the spooling time and the hp's it will make, incompare to the normal one?

jmcboost

01-13-2008, 10:16 PM

So, who has had succsess with ebay Master Power turbos?

Alpinesupra

01-20-2008, 10:21 PM

So, who has had succsess with ebay Master Power turbos?

master power is not a ebay turbo, there have been plenty of people using them with great results, also jeff from mdc uses there turbos to make his custom bolt on turbos for the 7m. . . do some research and reading before u assume its a ebay turbo.

-sean

jmcboost

01-27-2008, 11:39 AM

I guess we are on a different page?:aigo: I plan on getting a Master Power turbo and buying it off of ebay. So I was asking if there are any drawbacks to buying an "ebay" Master Power turbo. You know, purchasing it on ebay. I did not know if they are any different.

Doward

02-04-2008, 10:57 AM

A true Master Power turbo is a good, quality piece. It doesn't matter where you buy it from, as long as it is a true MP.

The 'ebay turbo' is the 'Super T70' you see for sale for $200 with a 60.5mm compressor wheel.

jmcboost

02-05-2008, 10:09 AM

OK, that is the info I was looking for. Thanks

Here is the one I am looking at if anybody wanted to know.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Master-Power-Turbo-60-1-96-A-R-T4-810029_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ022QQitemZ350021875569QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1VQQtrksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247

hottscennessey

02-06-2008, 02:50 PM

were you going to go with the .96 A/R over the .68?

It'll be a bit laggier.... but if you wanted to order the .96 I'll trade you my .68 for it and pay shipping both ways :)

I'm trying to max out my MP T70 and I think that the .68 is restricting me a little bit for that 600+ WHP.

ETS Michael

02-22-2008, 02:15 PM

Like everyone else said, just make sure it's genuine. The turbochargers.com is most likely the real version. There are going to be a couple on ebay in the 300 range that are going to be fake, and will fail over time.

Good luck!

Cya

12-08-2008, 01:52 PM

Has anyone tried or know of anyone who has tried the t3 divided housing?

Adjuster

01-04-2009, 04:15 PM

MasterPower turbo's are not junk by any parameter.

They are however, less expensive than many others. (Not a bad deal if you ask me.)

Having acutually used his "T-70" turbo now, it spools up fine, hits hard, and appears to be a good deal for the money.

I'm looking at swapping out the exhaust housing in the future to a divided .81 from LIPP in stainless, and adding the SP valve.

This would make the turbo spool even faster in theory, and yet flow better on top for more upper end power than the .63, or is it .68 housing that I have now?

The final goal is 600+ on pump gas with 30% toulene added in for a total octane of about 98 for the fuel. The old turbo was quite happy at 18 to 21 psi on pump gas with some toulene added in for safety. (It was fine at 18psi on pump only.)
It was making 420rwhp at 18psi... Never could get the waste gate and controller to cooperate on the dyno to pull 21psi.. but it did it fine on the street. Figure it was high 400hp setup on the 60-1 bolt on T4.

Just boosting 11psi on the waste gate, this T-70 feels stronger than the old 18psi setup, but I have some tuning to do before any boost is added over the 11 that the waste gate will allow for now. (Plan is to run 18 to 21 psi as before, now with more fuel, it should be fine, and not hit boost cut like before where the 550's were into the 1500hz rate.)

suprafanatic

01-11-2009, 09:52 PM

what other mods did you have when you made 420hp at 18psi? i ask because i was thinking about going with a T70 turbo, however, with my lipp boss 57 trim im currently over 400hp at 20psi... so im not sure it would be worth swapping turbos for... any ideas?

ModularTurbo

01-22-2009, 10:54 PM

If anybody needs specs on the T70 or the new MP T76 let me know.

Also, if anyone has turbos in warranty that have failed and/or need technical assistance please call.

loveofcars

02-15-2009, 10:26 PM

master power turbos aree great. just because something cost less then others dosent mean thats its not as good.

gilberjj

02-17-2009, 07:54 PM

If anybody needs specs on the T70 or the new MP T76 let me know.

Also, if anyone has turbos in warranty that have failed and/or need technical assistance please call.

Just got off the phone with Rob. Very helpful and I like the idea of the new t76. I had EXCELLENT luck with the t70.

ModularTurbo

02-17-2009, 08:27 PM

Just got off the phone with Rob. Very helpful and I like the idea of the new t76. I had EXCELLENT luck with the t70.

thanks for the compliment, you da man.

applesauce

02-17-2009, 08:41 PM

I just got off the phone w/ him also... Very helpful person, now i just need to make up my mind. I need 2 of something :1zhelp: LOL!

If you need MASTERPOWER anything im sure he would be willing to help...

tbcmorris

02-17-2009, 09:41 PM

I'm ordering my entire new setup from him. Answered all my questions. Awesome guy....I am getting, turbo,fuel pump, afpr, injetotors, wastegate, standalone, and manifold, all for a great deal...I couldn't be happier

ModularTurbo

02-25-2009, 08:26 PM

Semper Fidelis Brother!

drewgo

03-10-2009, 01:55 PM

I get them directly from the distributor down here in South Florida.
The owner's name is Mike (Mike's Turbo). Alot of us use them.
I've used them and they are in my opinion the best bang for your buck.
Also they are robust turbos so they'll last as long as top name brands.
I put together a 240/1jz with a 63-1 MP and made 413rwhp @ 17 psi and
it spools quick. Can't beat that for $550 turbo.

ModularTurbo

03-10-2009, 06:19 PM

Jostar

03-10-2009, 09:37 PM

Mike Turbo is no longer an Authorized Dealer. He hasn't been for some time now.

Can you hook me up with the O-ring that goes on the Compressor housing??? Mine ripped When i took the compressor housing off..

ModularTurbo

03-10-2009, 11:50 PM

sure just call me 2morrow sometime before 4

OneJSupra

03-11-2009, 09:15 AM

sure just call me 2morrow sometime before 4

Rob, my T61 is still boosting like crazy but I want to go bigger turbo (like 74mm bigger) this summer now that I have bigger injectors so I might hit you up to see what you got.

-Andy

ModularTurbo

03-11-2009, 12:32 PM

I think you might be a good candidate for one of my MC76's

suprafanatic

03-31-2009, 12:36 AM

How would a masterpower T-70 with a .96 housing respond on a built 7M? anyone use this set up or have any dyno numbers?

Jostar

03-31-2009, 10:02 PM

How would a masterpower T-70 with a .96 housing respond on a built 7M? anyone use this set up or have any dyno numbers?

That would be too laggy, Get a .68ar, There is people making very nice power on this turbo...

ModularTurbo

04-01-2009, 10:14 PM

+1 I said the same thing to him in a PM, but he has to have the .96
You can lead a horse to water.........

Jostar

04-01-2009, 10:25 PM

+1 I said the same thing to him in a PM, but he has to have the .96
You can lead a horse to water.........

Atleast a .81ar... but a .96ar?? On my 1jz the T70 spools around 4-4.5K RPMs on full kill.... Scary!!!!!:aigo::evil2:

a_sesshoumaru

04-02-2009, 01:30 PM

That would be too laggy, Get a .68ar, There is people making very nice power on this turbo...
I think .68 is to restrictive past 18psi, 0.81 housings are hard to find used but should work perfect, and i dont think that with a .96 you would see more than 18psi. The problem is that the center is too heavy. But still a very good, reliable and good priced turbo.

Any one is running a 0.96 housing with his T70? please step in and tell us, video if posible.

EDIT: this is a T70 A/R 0.68
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqJ951PSiVE&feature=channel_page

Jostar

04-02-2009, 01:38 PM

I think .68 is to restrictive past 18psi, 0.81 housings are hard to find used but should work perfect, and i dont think that with a .96 you would see more than 18psi. The problem is that the center is too heavy. But still a very good, reliable and good priced turbo.

Any one is running a 0.96 housing with his T70? please step in and tell us, video if posible.

EDIT: this is a T70 A/R 0.68
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqJ951PSiVE&feature=channel_page

I doubt the .68ar is restrictive, My close friend made 702hp at the wheels on his evoII.... Ran a 10.42@142mph.... 27 libras?? las subiste??

a_sesshoumaru

04-02-2009, 01:41 PM

I doubt the .68ar is restrictive, My close friend made 702hp at the wheels on his evoII.... Ran a 10.42@142mph.... 27 libras?? las subiste??
On a 2.0L engine is not restrictive at all, but in a 3.0L 6 cil, i think it is, unfortunalty i did it and the engine didn`t last long to shot another video. Too high egts

ask92

04-14-2009, 12:54 AM

im thinking about a t70 .68 on a built 7m with piggyback system..when should i expect spool?

ModularTurbo

04-14-2009, 09:09 PM

right around 4000 it depends on the setup though

Jostar

04-15-2009, 05:47 PM

right around 4000 it depends on the setup though

Mine is on full kill around 4-4.5K RPMs... remember i am a lil 1jz

Slow TT

04-16-2009, 12:45 AM

does the master power t70 t4 turbo come with divided exhaust housing?

gilberjj

04-16-2009, 03:15 AM

I could develop a couple psi on the freeway in 5th gear. Awesome turbo! Very streetable.

ModularTurbo

04-16-2009, 10:01 PM

no T4 divided available sorry

Jostar

04-17-2009, 06:57 PM

no T4 divided available sorry

Hey Rob, Post pics of the MP GT42 & MP GT45, The pics on your site kinda sux... I want see the difference between the T70 & T76, GT42 & GT45... I am interested in one of the GT ones..

ModularTurbo

04-18-2009, 02:11 AM

you can't spool that GT42/45 without spray.

suprafanatic

04-18-2009, 02:14 PM

On a 2.0L engine is not restrictive at all, but in a 3.0L 6 cil, i think it is, unfortunalty i did it and the engine didn`t last long to shot another video. Too high egts

So you think the .68 a/r housing is to restrictive? Im still unsure which im going to go with at this point.

a_sesshoumaru

04-19-2009, 09:45 PM

So you think the .68 a/r housing is to restrictive? Im still unsure which im going to go with at this point.
Depends on how many psi you want to boost. Any one has a video with a 0.96 housing? i would like to see the spool of that.

suprafanatic

04-19-2009, 10:19 PM

i'll be running around 20 pounds.. just looked at the MP site they have a .81 housing for the T70 and the T76

Moy

04-20-2009, 02:48 AM

i'll be running around 20 pounds.. just looked at the MP site they have a .81 housing for the T70 and the T76

Yeah but is it possible to get it with a divided housing, or swap a divided housing of similar size onto the turbo in place of the one that came on it? (I don't know much about turbos, forgive my ignorance)