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the t3d
10-10-2007, 10:31 AM
i've heard mixed feelings about the Clevite 77s and i've heard some other brands mentioned that i cannot remember. so, i was wondering what bearings have you guys used and what you would recommend for a build around 400rwhp? oh and where did you get them at? :icon_bigg

thanks!

-t3d
Grimsta
10-10-2007, 10:52 AM
I've used Clevites (granted i'm not at 400hp... YET!) with no problems. I've also known people to use them in 700hp applications. A coating could work well on them. I think its Power Enterprise that makes bearings that are supposed to have a "special" surface that reduces friction and wear. But i haven't heard any feedback on those yet. Anyone here?
Supracentral
10-10-2007, 11:20 AM
I've used DFL-1 coated Clevites with great success over the years.

We used the PowerEnterprise F1 Black Metal bearings in quite a few 2JZ's. No failures to date but the 2JZ is so damned bulletproof that might not be saying much.

As far as I know PE doesn't make a 7M bearing.
IJ.
10-10-2007, 03:37 PM
Clevite don't make a 7M bearing anymore :(

They're reboxed NDC's so it comes down to price, you might find NDC's in NDC boxes cheaper.
(NDC are a Japanese performance bearing and very good quality just don't have the egg shape tech of genuine Clevites)
Supracentral
10-10-2007, 03:43 PM
Clevite don't make a 7M bearing anymore :(

They're reboxed NDC's so it comes down to price, you might find NDC's in NDC boxes cheaper.
(NDC are a Japanese performance bearing and very good quality just don't have the egg shape tech of genuine Clevites)

I guess the Clevite's I on the shelf are worth something now? :naughty:
IJ.
10-10-2007, 03:48 PM
Mike: Don't tease the old it's unkind ;)
(To me they're worth something but we're talking about 7M owners here they won't pay a premium)

My Crank ended up 20/30 after all the work so I'm limited in bearing choices.
supra_ed
10-10-2007, 03:55 PM
king performance bearings are good. in my opinion better than the "new" clevites. ive seen a few 1000hp 2j's with king but like supracentral said- i dont know if that accounts for anything.

ij: i thought u werent "supposed to" turn a performance turbocharged crank past 10/10?
IJ.
10-10-2007, 03:57 PM
Ed: The King Bimetal's are a disaster waiting to happen....
(I'm guessing their performance bearings are the TriMetal series though)

Normally yes 10/10 is the limit without expensive further work ;)
starscream5000
10-10-2007, 04:01 PM
IIRC suprarich mention having some genuine clevites stashed away. He may come off of his, but be prepared to pay a premium if he will...
supra_ed
10-10-2007, 04:05 PM
yup trimetals.
i thought anything over 10/10 created a "weak spot". i think ur the only non-dumbass (compliment intended lol) mk3 owner i know who has a crank past that
IJ.
10-10-2007, 04:32 PM
Ed: The Surface hardening on a 7m crank is quite shallow so after 10/10 you're into the soft base metal.

My Crank has been stress relieved then niterided to bring it back to the correct hardness, I have too many $$$ in it to scrap it when it needed a regrind so it was worth paying to have it bought back to the correct specs.

7M Niterided Lightened Crank
http://members.optushome.com.au/nxtmod/planb01t.jpg (http://members.optushome.com.au/nxtmod/planb01.jpg)
Grimsta
10-11-2007, 11:50 AM
How do you clean actually inside the crank without removing the balls?
JustAnotherVictim
10-11-2007, 11:56 AM
I guess the Clevite's I on the shelf are worth something now? :naughty:
They're not all gone yet.

The last set I got the main were clevites and the rods were ndc.
So you never know it seems.
IJ.
10-11-2007, 04:02 PM
How do you clean actually inside the crank without removing the balls?
Balls?

My cranks all have tapped plugs.

Ric: Depends on size, yes you can still get genuine Clevites but only in a few u/s's
annoyingrob
10-11-2007, 06:34 PM
Is there something wrong with OEM bearings that I don't know about?
JustAnotherVictim
10-11-2007, 07:22 PM
Nope OEM just cost twice as much.
Grimsta
10-11-2007, 07:31 PM
Balls?

My cranks all have tapped plugs.

Ric: Depends on size, yes you can still get genuine Clevites but only in a few u/s's

I see that now that i'm on MY computer. On the other computer those allen heads looked like balls. That's what i'm going to do with my 2J crank, knock out the balls and tap & plug!
the t3d
10-14-2007, 12:59 PM
i guess clevites it is! thanks guys
Grimsta
10-14-2007, 02:58 PM
sure, no prob?