View Full Version : Is German Castrol really going the way of the dinosaur?
Gman87t
10-07-2007, 03:48 AM
As the title says, is Autozone really dropping GC? After reading some posts here that said it was going away, I decided to check my local Autozone stores. The first one I went to had 7 bottles on the shelf. 6 of them were M03 and M04 date codes and one was M06. I took all these up to the counter and asked if they had any more. The guy went in the back and came out with a brand new case (6 qt.) and ask how many I wanted. The way he asked kind of made it sound like there was even more in the back, but I didn't ask. These bottles had M07 codes on the bottom. I bought all these for $6.09 a quart and after leaving decided to see if another store had any. The second Autozone had 13 quarts on the shelf with M07 codes. I went up to the counter there and told the guy I had heard they were dropping the Castrol Syntec 0W-30 oil and asked if this was true. He said he didn't think so, but I'm not sure he really knew. With 07 marked bottles I was wondering if they are still getting it in. Does anyone know for sure?
I just can't believe my luck would be so good as to find that much of it if it really is discontinued. Do I need to go latched on to the rest of it?
I also want to make sure I'm getting what I think I am. I just recently learned about this oil from these forums, and I've never actually bought or used any before. The newer bottles (M06 M07) say European Formula on the front and Made in Germany on the back. The older ones (M03 M04) don't say anything on the front but say Made in Germany on the back. I didn't open any to see if it was green, but the older stuff looks like it is a different color through the clear strip on the side. So am I getting true synthetic as long as it says Made in Germany?
-Gary
Read Post #'s 4, 6, and 7:
http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38768
Looks like you came across 6 bottles of the GC Green...nice find ;)
I've been seeing GC pop-up in a few AutoZone stores around where I live too....one batch had M07 date codes, but were early '07 production. Take a look at the 3 numbers that follow the "M07", those indicate the number of days into the year the oil was made. For example, "059" is Feb 28 (31 days in Jan, 28 days in Feb).
Concerning the availability of GC at AutoZone...that's the million dollar question. It's looking like it depends on where you live in the US. Guys in TX, CA and south FL can't seem to find it...but, guys in the mid-west are still finding it on the shelf. It seems to still be available, but whether it's old stock AutoZone is selling off or some kind of flip-flop marketing remains to be seen. If you like the oil, I'd buy enough for 2-3 oil changes plus a few extra for adding oil between changes. If you find more of the GC Green, buy all of it ;)
BTW - if you don't see your post appear in this section right away, that's normal. I have to approve all posts here before that will show on the forum.
fstlane88
10-07-2007, 12:15 PM
I'd like to update that I was able to find some here locally...a lot actually. It was weird I had gone to this same store several times and not seen any, went after I spoke with you through PM Jdub and they had it, the entire row in the shelf was full!!! So I bought enough for a couple oil changes.
tissimo
10-07-2007, 01:29 PM
Guys in TX, CA and south FL can't seem to find it...
hit up the poorer areas.. i found 14 bottles of gc green in Miami.. it was the ghetto though, haha
I'd like to update that I was able to find some here locally...a lot actually. It was weird I had gone to this same store several times and not seen any, went after I spoke with you through PM Jdub and they had it, the entire row in the shelf was full!!! So I bought enough for a couple oil changes.
Yeah...there's no predicting which store will have it...seems to be completely at random :confused:
Guess you just have to keep checking the same stores.
hit up the poorer areas.. i found 14 bottles of gc green in Miami.. it was the ghetto though, haha
Yep...stores in "economically challenged" areas will be more likely to have it. Folks that live around these stores will rarely run a syn oil in their cars, especially a 0W-30!
How are you cars running? Are they liking the GC?
Gman87t
10-07-2007, 05:33 PM
The codes on the bottom of the newest bottles I bought are M07179xxx. If I remember correctly the codes on the ones at the second store were M07228xxx. That would put them in July 07. Below are pictures of an 07 bottle I bought.
Also one of the Autozone guys said they sell very little of it, and when I was paying for it another worker walked by and said, "Zero weight?"
Poodles
10-07-2007, 06:32 PM
Haven't found one bottle of 0W-30 at all around here. Not even a spot on the shelf for it.
suprajjang
10-07-2007, 10:11 PM
I wiped out all the stores around here but all of them are stocked full of them again. If you would like me to buy you some let me know because i would be happy to help you out
starscream5000
10-10-2007, 09:36 AM
Damn, glad this was brought up, I'll check a few AZ's around here when I get off of work today.
starscream5000
10-15-2007, 08:33 AM
Okay, I remembered to check the local AZ's around here Friday...
No GC in stock, only the replacement 0W-30 here that says "not to be sold outside of America" or something like that, on the back of the bottle where "made in Germany" is supposed to be...
slidebabyslide
10-16-2007, 01:55 AM
Okay, I remembered to check the local AZ's around here Friday...
No GC in stock, only the replacement 0W-30 here that says "not to be sold outside of America" or something like that, on the back of the bottle where "made in Germany" is supposed to be...
every autozone has is . I got some but never used it on my car, because my motor developed rod knock.
dugums
10-16-2007, 09:59 AM
It's interesting - when I read the thread title, I thought about it a different way.
"going the way of the dinosaur" - I guess based on the responses, the intent of the question was if it was going extinct.
I read it as a question as to whether or not the new GC that can be found in autozone has switched to a group III oil. Anybody know?
starscream5000
10-16-2007, 12:19 PM
every autozone has is . I got some but never used it on my car, because my motor developed rod knock.
Did you not read my post that you quoted? I just said that I visited a few (four to be exact) AZ's and ZERO out of the Four had any German Castrol. :nono:
It's been replaced (over here anyways) with a different type of 0W-30.
every autozone has is . I got some but never used it on my car, because my motor developed rod knock.
Depends on where you live...the supply is definitely getting sporadic.
It's interesting - when I read the thread title, I thought about it a different way.
"going the way of the dinosaur" - I guess based on the responses, the intent of the questions was if it was going extinct.
I read it as a questions as to whether or not the new GC that can be found in AutoZone has switched to a group III oil. Anybody know?
LOL...I can see that ;)
Nope, GC is still a Group IV PAO base stock oil. The other Castrol oils you see on the shelves are all Group III and have been for some time.
GrimJack
10-16-2007, 10:54 PM
I just stopped by my local shop (called Lordco up here) they had 12L of GC Green on the shelf. I picked them up and asked if they had more, the guy looked it up and found another 144 bottles at their warehouse.
No way to tell what the manufacturing date on the warehouse stuff is in advance, of course, but the counter guy is ordering another 24 for his shelf...
slidebabyslide
10-17-2007, 02:20 AM
Did you not read my post that you quoted? I just said that I visited a few (four to be exact) AZ's and ZERO out of the Four had any German Castrol. :nono:
It's been replaced (over here anyways) with a different type of 0W-30.
Im sorry. I 4 got to say in cali.
drjonez
10-17-2007, 09:48 AM
no problems sourcing GC here. then again, most of the AZs i've hit wouldn't have sold them any time soon anyway....
BTW- if you can find them @ AZ, be sure to sign up for "autozone rewards". you make 5 $20+ purchases and then you get $20 back! i've been buying up all the GC i can find....4 bottles @ a time. ;)
Gman87t
10-18-2007, 12:56 AM
^^ That's exactly what I was doing with the "Autozone Rewards" program.
Also the first store that I had cleared out got some more in marked M07234.
-Gman87t
Jeff Lange
10-23-2007, 04:00 AM
Out of curiosity, where am I looking for the date code on the bottle? (In Canada BTW, if that matters).
Both NAPA and Partsource carry GC here.
Jeff - It's on the bottom of the bottle...starts with an "M". The next five numbers are the year (two numbers) and number of days (three numbers) into the year the oil was made.
Some of the Canadian guys have told me Canidian Tire and Wal-Mart have GC too.
I just checked an AutoZone in N Phoenix...the shelf was fully stocked :)
Jeff Lange
10-23-2007, 04:08 PM
So it's on the actual bottom of the bottle, or on the bottom of the label? I didn't see any M0xxxx numbers on the labels.
drjonez
10-23-2007, 04:21 PM
bottle.
Jeff Lange
10-26-2007, 03:24 AM
Indeed. I've only seen M07's around here then, and yeah it's at the Wal-Mart here as well.
Partsource is like the independent-store version of Canadian Tire, so I would assume Canadian Tire has it here as well.
Doward
11-01-2007, 08:16 PM
FWIW, everything I've found here is M07 - you can see I have two slightly different bottles, both say Made in Germany on the back, M0796 on the right bottles, M07228 on the left bottles.
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5517/1001688td3.th.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1001688td3.jpg)
That's current production ;)
Considering we are on the 305th day of 2007!
Jeff Lange
11-03-2007, 10:18 AM
Yeah, all the stuff I've seen since I knew where to look has been M07 as well.
Doesn't surprise me for the Canadian stores...it's interesting though that AutoZone here in the US (at least in FL) has current production GC. Perhaps they are not completely dropping it?
Poodles
11-05-2007, 07:37 PM
Finally found some current production german castrol at one autozone in my area...
Next oil change it's going in.
The pennzoil platinum has been holding up great as well. Get great oil pressure that hasn't dropped off from heat, it's also staying fairly clear at least on the dipstick...
drjonez
11-10-2007, 11:34 AM
well, i dunno if AZ is dropping GC. i cleaned out one of the local AZs a few weeks back and i just dropped by today- they were fully stocked of current production GC. wooooooooooooooooooo!
slidebabyslide
11-11-2007, 09:54 PM
They just open an AZ about 1/2 a mile from m house in the middle of nowhere.... they stock GC . They only had 2 boxes of it( i purchased both of them) I asked the manager how come only 2 boxes. He told me a'lot of people that drive german cars, don't really replace there own oil; the price on the oil does not help ether. He told me to his knowledge, that they are keeping the oil, but only in places that seems to have german cars? (i don't get this).
I have a 8 boxes of this stuff now.....lol. I still need to rebuild my motor.
starscream5000
11-13-2007, 03:27 PM
What's the shelf life on something like this John?
A very long time ;)
You need to keep it in a place without big temperature swings, dry and away from sunlight.
starscream5000
11-13-2007, 04:16 PM
10-4. I keep mine in an inclosed tub :D
Doward
11-13-2007, 04:36 PM
Like in a big cabinet ;)
Cut from another site ;)
Engine Oil Shelf Life.
I couldn't decide whether to put this in the FAQ or the main page, so it's in both, because I get asked this question a lot. Typically, the question is along the lines of "GenericAutoSuperStore are having a sale on WickedlySlippy Brand synthetic oil. If I buy it now, how long can I keep if before I use it?"
In general, liquid lubricants (ie. oils, not greases) will remain intact for a number of years. The main factor affecting the life of the oil is the storage condition for the products. Exposure to extreme temperature changes, and moisture will reduce the shelf life of the lubricants. ie. don't leave in the sun with the lid off. Best to keep them sealed and unopened.
Technically, engine oils have shelf lives of four to five years. However, as years pass, unused engine oils can become obsolete and fail to meet the technical requirements of current engines. The specs get updated regularly based on new scientific testing procedures and engine requirements. But this is only really a concern if you've bought a brand new car but have engine oil you bought for the previous car. An oil that is a number of years old might not be formulated to meet the requirements set for your newer engine.
If your unopened containers of engine oil are more than three years old, read the labels to make sure they meet the latest industry standards. If they do meet the current standards, you might want to take the extra precaution of obtaining oil analysis before using them. An oil analysis will check for key properties of the oil and ensure that it still meets the original manufacturing specs. Of course the cost of getting an analysis done on old oil is probably going to outweigh going and buying fresh stuff. So it's a double-edged sword.
As a general rule, the simpler the oil formulation, the longer the shelf life. The following is a guideline under protected conditions:
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The following are signs of storage instability in a lubricant:
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Precipitates/solid material
Colour change or haziness
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CTsupra
11-24-2007, 12:01 PM
German Castrol located in CT.
Autozone
95 Myrtle ST.
New Britain, CT (downtown area)
I'm sure this means all autozones in CT carry it. They had one full row of the stuff on their shelves with dates of m07179. They're getting new cases in tomorrow and I'll be buying... some ;)
Edit: Forgot to mention this is the green GC!! Did the winter oil change today (7qts.) on the supra and noticed that.
The supra seems to be liking the GC. I noticed a bit more pep when I hit the gas at low rpm's, and a little better oil psi at idle on the stock guage over the 5w-30 RP I was running previously. At 3000rpm on the highway I noticed my oil pressure was 45 psi at operating temp vs. 38-42 psi with the RP. This is on a stock GTE oiling system... for the moment.
starscream5000
11-26-2007, 01:33 PM
Interesting on the Green bit, I wonder what the oil makeup is now...
It's very close to the same...the Green GC contained some esters that are not identified. Both are primarily PAO base stock. Mostly the difference was noticed with an oil wear analysis....the Green was a bit better.
starscream5000
11-27-2007, 08:32 AM
Yeah, I knew that about the old green, but I was referencing this new line of green... I bet it's different in some way or other from the version that was out 3-4 years ago...
I'm not aware of a "new Green"...pretty sure CT got his hands on a few bottles of the old stuff ;)
starscream5000
11-27-2007, 04:43 PM
German Castrol located in CT.
Autozone
95 Myrtle ST.
New Britain, CT (downtown area)
I'm sure this means all autozones in CT carry it. They had one full row of the stuff on their shelves with dates of m07179. They're getting new cases in tomorrow and I'll be buying... some ;)
Edit: Forgot to mention this is the green GC!! Did the winter oil change today (7qts.) on the supra and noticed that.
The supra seems to be liking the GC. I noticed a bit more pep when I hit the gas at low rpm's, and a little better oil psi at idle on the stock guage over the 5w-30 RP I was running previously. At 3000rpm on the highway I noticed my oil pressure was 45 psi at operating temp vs. 38-42 psi with the RP. This is on a stock GTE oiling system... for the moment.
This is why I was asking about the Green Castrol ;)
Chris - I understand. If it's the date codes he posted, it's not the Green GC (at least to my knowledge). He was not specific about the bottles he actually bought ;)
starscream5000
11-27-2007, 06:28 PM
:wuteva:
:owned:
Arg! you got me there. ;)
jetjock
11-27-2007, 09:55 PM
I'm also unaware of any new green and I've been using GC for years. In fact I'm pretty sure I was the first to mention it on this forum, along with lots of other oil advice. Course, nobody ever listens to me :)
CTsupra
11-28-2007, 04:16 PM
Well, I'm not an expert on the "old" vs. "new" GC, so I took some pictures for you guys to debate. The oil looked green to me when I was pouring it in the motor. It wasn't a sunny day, so the lighting probably effected how the oil looked vs. a sunny day.
Anyway, here are the pics:
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb94/kcharestjr/GC012.jpg
No flash
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb94/kcharestjr/GC011.jpg
Flash
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb94/kcharestjr/GC010.jpg
Flash
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb94/kcharestjr/GC009.jpg
Flash
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb94/kcharestjr/GC008.jpg
Flash
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb94/kcharestjr/GC007.jpg
No flash
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb94/kcharestjr/GC006.jpg
Flash
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb94/kcharestjr/GC002.jpg
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb94/kcharestjr/GC004.jpg
I hope this helps! Also, I'm going to get an analysis done on a virgin sample to see what kind of esters are in it. I'll post the info when accomplished!
Ken
BRIAN
11-28-2007, 05:50 PM
In fact I'm pretty sure I was the first to mention it on this forum, along with lots of other oil advice. Course, nobody ever listens to me :)
Were listening, you just don't see us;)
Hmmm...I see they changed the bottle...Again!
I can also see why you would think this is a "new Green GC"...it does have a green tint to it as does the 2006 production in the pics below. Next to it is 2004 production Green GC...I took pics in different lighting to highlight the difference.
BTW - the green color is just a dye...much like the "purple" in Royal Purple oil. The difference in GC is thay also changed the formula slightly along with the color change. Dont know why they screwed with it, but it's still a very good oil.
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/11/33118472925.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=7186112)
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/11/33118472987.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=7186111)
Yeah JJ was preaching about oil long before I showed up...he's the one that got me researching this stuff. A real Pandora's Box I tell ya ;)
jetjock
11-28-2007, 07:01 PM
Good point Brian...
CJ: That's the gold. Fwiw you're far from the first person to be fooled by looking in the bottle. Also, GC both green and gold have been gas chromographed by some very knowledgeable people in the lubricants biz. You can find entire threads on it over at the BITOG forums. Iirc the base of gold is entirely 1-decene PAO with no esters or AN. Odd that. As Dub says though, it's still good stuff.
slidebabyslide
11-29-2007, 12:02 AM
So it does not matter what GC oil color you have?
The green is more desirable, but was last made in early 2005...if you find any, it's old stock. But in all honesty, it really doesn't matter...GC is still an excellent oil in it's present formulation.
CTsupra
12-03-2007, 07:01 PM
Wow! Yeah, that's definitely green. Thanks for clearing that up, jdub!
Ken
Kangae
01-05-2008, 02:30 PM
If anyone has the means to get out here and wants to, there is ALOT of the m07 stuff here in a nearby town called Utica in New York. I bought 17 quarts last night from the shelf and they guy said there were a good number of cases in the back. Most of the bottles I bought are M07234. I havent had a chance to change my oil with it yet but I'm planning on next week.
suprageezer
02-22-2008, 08:55 PM
Could someone post the Autozone part number from their receipt for this German Castrol so I can go to my local Autozone and see if they can order some in?
Thanks Rick
Thanks to wardog ;)
Here is the number for the German Castrol for Autozone
#340533 06068
Castrol Syntec
SAE 0W-30 Syn motor oil 1 qt
Hope this helps you guys that can't find GC at your local AZ order some before the Sale Ends...
suprajjang
02-24-2008, 01:50 PM
yep thats the right number. Try to buy them soon because they are on sale right now. You get 5 quarts and a mobil 1 filter for 25.99 which i think is a great deal.
suprageezer
02-24-2008, 05:15 PM
Just got back from my local socal autozone and nothing came up in their computers. So I e-mailed autozone to see what they have to say.
Sounds like you might be dealing with morons at that AZ Rick ;)
Consider Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30...if I can't get GC, that is what I'd use ;)
Tire Shredder
02-25-2008, 10:22 PM
just thought I'd mention it's still readily available in canada. I've checked three Canadian Tire's here in Ontario, and all have had full shelves of the GC, new bottles.
suprageezer
03-04-2008, 02:58 PM
Well I pretty much struck out on the autozone thing but I did get this email back from Castrol when I wrote and asked them where I could buy the german castrol in socal. This is the second email from them the first one I got basically blew me off, then I received this one. If you look down at the bottom there's an interesting email address, it appears Castrol is owned by British Petroleum, aka BP
Lisa Gerada to me
show details 8:18 AM (3 hours ago) Reply
The North American Castrol SYNTEC SAE 0W-30 offers the same performance as
the German SYNTEC 0W-30. Performance attributes are clearly demonstrated in
the performance ratings and OEM approvals indicated for each of our
individual product offerings.
Castrol produces and utilize formulas from various sources, including North
America and Europe depending on the product, performance and component
sourcing. Products may vary in raw materials as a result of the regional
production facility. However, the end performance met whether API or ACEA,
is still the same. Formulations meeting European standards can be sourced
from the US or Europe. It all comes down the most efficient way to supply
the product to market taking into consideration development and supply chain
logistics. The performance specifications on the bottle may read differently
as American Standard testing varies from European testing.
Formulations meeting European standards can be sourced from the US or
Europe. It all comes down the most efficient way to supply the product to
market taking into consideration development and supply chain logistics.
The decision for 0W-30 to be sourced from Germany is based upon the most
efficient supply logistics.
Castrol SYNTEC SAE 0W-30 exceeds all car and light truck manufacturer's
warranty requirements for the protection of gasoline, diesel and
turbocharged engines where API SL, SJ, SH, CF or CD is recommended. Exceeds
European ACEA: A3, B3, B4; VW 502 00, 505 00, 503 01; MB 229.1, 229.3; BMW
LL-01 and the engine protection requirements of ILSAC GF-3 for API Certified
Gasoline Engine Oils and meets Energy Conserving Standards.
-----Original Message-----
From: ContactUs@BP.com [mailto:ContactUs@BP.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:20 PM
To: Online customer service
Subject: Castrol USA - Contact Us Form Data
Importance: High
Basically she said a lot of nothing Rick...part of it is a repeat of the stuff on Castrol spec sheets. "Products may vary in raw materials as a result of the regional production facility."...translation, German Castrol is a Grp IV PAO based oil...North American Castrol SYNTEC SAE 0W-30 is a Grp III hydrocracked mineral oil.
slidebabyslide
03-05-2008, 02:22 AM
suprageezer: If you want some GC i can get you some and ship it to you, my AZ has a crap load.
s000pra89T
03-07-2008, 09:09 AM
Just to further support its production...picked up a box of GC with M08's on the bottles. And receipt confirms it with the part# 340533 06068 from previous post. :thumbup:
89BklynSupra
03-25-2008, 07:54 PM
AZ is running a sale on these, 5 quarts + a craptastic fram filter for $24.99.
xscurry
04-03-2008, 07:33 PM
The Autozone near me has a few cases worth - all with an M07 date. The item number 340533 06068 did not match anything for that store though. It was on the shelf.
suprageezer
04-04-2008, 07:51 PM
I finally received a response from Autozone about that part number above. It turns out the Autozone Sku# is 340533. I just stopped by Autozone and used that number and wham it was there. They didnt have it in that particualr store but they have it in a store a few miles away so I'll pick some up tomorrow. Thanks everyone for the help with the number, and info.
MassSupra89
04-08-2008, 02:49 PM
Just stopped by Autozone here and they had 7 left. So I just bought them all.
rumptis
04-16-2008, 11:31 AM
They have a bunch at my AZ, I have picked up 10 quarts so far. Trying to maximize the AZ rewards.
drjonez
04-16-2008, 12:16 PM
the trick is to buy 4 qts + something cheap to come in @ $25....then you get the reward and the oil!
dcrusupra
05-01-2008, 10:04 PM
So I was going thru the oil we got in the delivery at Pep Boys earlier tonight and I see a few cases of Castrol Syntec 0w30. It turns out we are starting to carry the 0w30 Castrol oil now. At least in the Southern part of Florida. Our Atlanta distribution center has 2000 quarts and the Indiana distribution center has 2500 quarts. Our part number for it is 06068. The code on the bottom says M06 on ours.
suprageezer
05-02-2008, 08:03 PM
North American Castrol Syntec 0W-30 is not the same as European Castrol 0W-30. That comes straight from an email to me from BP Europe which owns Castrol.
The key to tell the difference:
"European Formula" on the front label
"Made in Germany" on the back label
dcrusupra
05-03-2008, 10:21 PM
I just checked the stock today and they say "Made in Germany" on the back.
supraguy31
05-04-2008, 11:35 PM
I thought about this today so I went down to the local Autozone and asked. They have the 0W30 Synthetic European Formula (12 Bottles) and they showed me where they had 15 cases in the back. It said European formula on the front of the boxes and the ones on the Shelf. I will go back and check tomorrow about the Made in Germany label on the Back of them
Anybody need any. Price was $6.49 a Bottle or 41.00 for 12 Bottles.
I just checked the stock today and they say "Made in Germany" on the back.
Excellent! That's the good stuff ;)
suprarx7nut
05-16-2008, 01:29 AM
Just went to Pep Boys here and they had a full shelf of GC. I believe it was 6.49 a piece.
It seems like places are starting to carry GC on a regular basis.
Yep...saw it at PepBoys here in AZ as well ;)
Choice is a good thing!
tlo86
05-29-2008, 06:44 PM
surprised how cheap the oil was.. picked up 2 cases at a local autozone. cheaper than mobil 1 :sarcasm: (surprise surprise) :)
Zumtizzle
05-31-2008, 05:06 AM
After i showed my cousin an Oil Analysis from a C6 Z06 owner using GC, and my stash. He went to Pep Boys and saw it and bought a case, and did a oil change in his truck. He said it felt so much smoother.
suprarx7nut
06-04-2008, 04:48 AM
Pep Boys is running a special on Castrol Syntec. Buy 5 quarts + PureONE filter for 21.99 after 5$ mail in rebate. Even without the rebate its 28.99 for 5 quarts + PureONE filter.
If anyone has problems getting this stuff, I'll be happy to pick some up and ship it off for ya for a very minimal charge. Just enough to cover shipping really.
Poodles
06-04-2008, 05:58 AM
I can get it easy, but now I got another question...
Would it be good in a MKII with a 5M? The TSRM specs are asking for FAR thicker oil...
http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/TSRM/MK2/LU/LU_002.gif
Keep something in mind about GC...it is not a thin oil at 100 deg C. It's viscosity is 12.2 cst at ops temp, ~ 20% thicker than most 0W or 5W-30 multigrades. Plus, the specs for the older motors do not consider the modern oils. It will work great in a 5M...I run it in my 5M Cressida ;)
Zumtizzle
06-04-2008, 05:32 PM
Pep Boys is running a special on Castrol Syntec. Buy 5 quarts + PureONE filter for 21.99 after 5$ mail in rebate. Even without the rebate its 28.99 for 5 quarts + PureONE filter.
If anyone has problems getting this stuff, I'll be happy to pick some up and ship it off for ya for a very minimal charge. Just enough to cover shipping really.
How Long is this going to last?
Thats pretty good. :)
drjonez
06-04-2008, 08:37 PM
yeah it is. i think i'm heading over there now....
slidebabyslide
06-04-2008, 11:07 PM
wow really good deal.
slidebabyslide
06-04-2008, 11:11 PM
do you guys think i can run this on a s2000 or on a 93 3vz 4runner>? Lets just say i have alot of oil and my car is down for a rebuild. I was wondering if i can run GC for this car
s. thanks
do you guys think i can run this on a s2000 or on a 93 3vz 4runner>? Lets just say i have alot of oil and my car is down for a rebuild. I was wondering if i can run GC for this car
s. thanks
What are the specs for each car?
I'm pretty sure it will be fine for the 3VZ (I run it in my R22 truck), but Hondas tend to run a thinner oil.
suprarx7nut
06-05-2008, 03:32 AM
How Long is this going to last?
Thats pretty good. :)
IIRC, it goes through the beginning of july.
dcrusupra
06-05-2008, 03:45 AM
Every month is a new oil deal. It usually alternates from Pennzoil to Castrol but for some reason, last month was Valvoline and Mobil with Purolator filters. Next month it'll be safe to assume that we'll have the Pennzoil/Fram on that deal.
But who knows, Pep Boys has changed immensely in the past month. And right now, in my area, there are crazy deals on generators because we aren't carrying them anymore. Coleman 6275 watt generators are $129.00 for example.
slidebabyslide
06-05-2008, 08:44 PM
well i don't have the specs on the s2000 the only thing they recommend is 10-30w like the v6 4runner.
In that case, GC will work just fine...better actually due to the low temp characteristics.
slidebabyslide
06-06-2008, 02:51 AM
thanks...the s2k is my g/f brother. He said it feels faster ...lol with GC. Have you seen the mobile 1 0-30? i was buying the oil filter for the s2k and then i saw this http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_0W-30.aspx
Zumtizzle
06-06-2008, 06:50 AM
^It's still a Group 3 Oil. (still has "dino" in it)
The GC which is a Group 4 (fully synthetic) is superior. :)
drjonez
06-06-2008, 12:19 PM
just to further confirm the pep boys current sale- i just paid $4.30/qt @ my local pep boys. there's no limit on the sale price, but there is a limit of 2 for the $5 mail-in rebate if you buy a purolator oil filter with the oil. in other words- GO BUY 10 CASES NOW! ;)
Zumtizzle
06-06-2008, 04:24 PM
Thanks Doc! :)
RazoE
06-18-2008, 04:34 PM
just to reiterate, 0w-30 German Castrol on my 7M-GE will be fine..?
I'm running 10w-30 synthetic right now, and I just picked up 6 quarts (got an extra, just incase)...
mkIIIman089
06-18-2008, 05:17 PM
Is it the 0w you're still scared of?
RazoE
06-18-2008, 09:18 PM
yeah...
RazoE - Read the Motor Oil 101 link in my sig and read this:
http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38811
If you're thinking that the 0W makes the oil "thin", that is completely incorrect...especially in the case of GC. The 0W is the cold viscosity of the oil; the ability of it to flow at engine start. You simply cannot get an oil that is too thin at cold temps...in GC's case, the cold viscosity is 6 times thicker than what it is at 100 deg C (ops temp).
jetjock
06-18-2008, 10:28 PM
You can lead a horse to water...
RazoE
06-19-2008, 12:38 AM
its okay folks, changed my oil filter and oil (with the German Castrol, 0w-30:D), and also swapped out my ECU...
no more CEL and the car runs great..:D
CTsupra
07-06-2008, 09:56 PM
Walked in to Pep Boys to buy a pureone filter and guess what I found!
They are now carrying GC in my neck of the woods. Berlin turnpike Pep Boys for you CT folk.
OneJSupra
07-22-2008, 09:16 PM
Walked in to Pep Boys to buy a pureone filter and guess what I found!
They are now carrying GC in my neck of the woods. Berlin turnpike Pep Boys for you CT folk.
Just saw a shit load of gc 0w30 european formula at autozone ...
JZ_killa_t68
07-27-2008, 03:16 AM
For some reason, every store I've checked over here has an overabundance...
SupraMan1987
07-28-2008, 02:30 PM
Just went in to my local AZ today. Bought six quarts. Had both 07 and 08 date codes. There are at least 10-15 more quarts on the shelf.
1988SupraDreams
07-28-2008, 07:49 PM
Tons of GC at the Fresno autozones in CA. I cleaned out two stores. 42 quarts. MONEY!!!
87M-GTE
07-30-2008, 02:32 PM
So to clarify, what is the advantage of GC over normal castrol syntec?
Also, I found Mobil1 0w 40 euro mix
jetjock
07-30-2008, 07:13 PM
Since Jdub is currently winging his way to China where he'll buy Hawaiian shirts (I didn't understand either) I'll offer up an answer. First keep in mind Castrol is a blender, not an oil company in the sense most people think. Mobil or Chevron they ain't. Put another way they don't have a single oil well to their name. They buy base oils and additives from other firms and mix the stuff up before selling it.
To answer your question GC is a Group IV oil which, by definition, mean the base stock is PAO. PAO is a "real" synthetic. Other US marketed Syntecs are Group III oils. Put simply that means they started life coming out of the ground. In the US they can legally be called synthetic but if you're one of those who believes synthetics (Group IV and V oils) should be 100% chemically engineered you might have a problem with that. Truth is 90% of the oils you see at the store these days labeled "synthetic" or "fully synthetic" are Group III.
Not that G-III oils are bad. Some approach and even exceed the performance of a Group IV. That said GC is a particularly well formulated G-IV.
edit: Lol, I love the shirt John. Thanks!
SupraMan1987
07-31-2008, 11:21 PM
Just thought I would share my results for some of the naysayers. With regular old run of the mill 5-30 I'd pull around 15-20 pounds of oil pressure at cold start idle, running up to around 39-40 above 2,500 RPM. Changed my oil and filter with the GC and a K&N today. Now I'm running right at 40 LBS at cold start idle, and 50-55 pounds at 2,500 RPM, peaking around 58-60 at high RPM.
grimreaper
08-04-2008, 09:42 PM
^^^ how about a little more detail? this on your riding mower? ;)
stock oil cooler setup, 7mge/gte?
SupraMan1987
08-08-2008, 03:18 PM
Completely factory GE motor with 91K miles.
mkIIIman089
08-14-2008, 05:12 PM
Just thought I would share my results for some of the naysayers. With regular old run of the mill 5-30 I'd pull around 15-20 pounds of oil pressure at cold start idle, running up to around 39-40 above 2,500 RPM. Changed my oil and filter with the GC and a K&N today. Now I'm running right at 40 LBS at cold start idle, and 50-55 pounds at 2,500 RPM, peaking around 58-60 at high RPM.
Readings from the stock guage? My oil pressure at high RPM even at more then 105C oil temp is higher than that with GC.
Sounds like the GC is just thicker than whatever "run of the mill" is. Don't really understand the nay-sayers comment, or what oil pressure has to do with it but maybe that boat sailed on me.
RazoE
08-14-2008, 06:04 PM
once I switched to GC 0w30, my car stopped leaking oil...
GC is thicker at ops temp (100 deg C) than most 30W multigrade oils.
CTsupra
08-17-2008, 04:01 PM
I just found two bottles of m05 GC at pepboys, and not one of them was the GC green. :(
..I was crushed, lol!
CyFi6
10-21-2008, 11:50 PM
Theres a bunch in my VatoZone here, it says European formula on the front and Made in Germany on the back, looks like the right stuff. Says M08 on the bottom, but its 6.79 a quart or something like that, almost 7 bucks, is that too much or is that the average?
Edit: Nevermind i see now that thats the average price. I will be checking walmart for this, maybe they have the large 5 quart jugs of it for a lesser price.
I'm usually able to catch it on sale and grab a case ;)
grimreaper
10-22-2008, 12:56 AM
wally world is a no go on the gc. I thought the same, i can only find it a autozone and jdub where are you finding it on sale?!?
Last was at PepBoys...it's been on sale at AZ too, but it's been a while. Look for Castrol SynTec sales...GC is included ;)
drjonez
10-22-2008, 07:14 AM
Yup, GC has been on serious sales @ Pep Girls fairly frequently....I think it was $4.50/qt last time?
CyFi6
10-22-2008, 02:44 PM
just got a 5qt+mobil1 filter deal for 35 bucks=6qt+ mobil 1 filter for 40 bucks. Basically, free filter. I didnt have any coupon or anything the guy just said they have that deal and i took it.
makaveli913
10-22-2008, 07:29 PM
i found some gc at my autozone. its feb 05 but not green :( there is also some 2001 or 2003 castrol it has a yellow label. it that any good
CyFi6
10-23-2008, 12:19 AM
Im pretty sure the new GC isnt much less superior than the green.
drjonez
10-23-2008, 07:43 AM
Im pretty sure the new GC isnt much less superior than the green.
Exactly. Get on BITOG and do some reading....comparo info there.
supradjza80
10-24-2008, 09:50 PM
autozone has a deal going on right now, 5 qts and a K&N filter for 29.99. Im Going to pick up quite a bit.
drjonez
10-25-2008, 03:27 AM
Holy smokes, that's a great deal!
grimreaper
10-26-2008, 01:09 AM
Hell ya, picked mine up this afternoon.
SupraMan1987
11-03-2008, 03:32 PM
Picked up one myself, as they only had 1 filter. Hopefully that will hold me until they get some more in.
suprarx7nut
12-22-2008, 03:30 PM
Anyone found any deals on GC lately?
Rennat
12-23-2008, 01:58 AM
yeah, walmart for $20 for 5 quarts in the big bottle... i was dumb founded when i saw it... too bad i get a killer deal on redline now. haha
CyFi6
12-23-2008, 02:54 AM
yeah, walmart for $20 for 5 quarts in the big bottle... i was dumb founded when i saw it... too bad i get a killer deal on redline now. haha
You sure thats not the 5w30?I have never seen the German 0w30 at walmart before.
Rennat
12-23-2008, 03:05 AM
never saw somebody mention what weight they wanted... the difference between 5w30 and 0w30 is minimal...
and from what jdub has said about the supra's oiling system, they want an oil viscosity with the cst of about 10~...
0-30 according to castrol is 12.1 and the 5w30 is actually 9.7
and if you want to be spot on, 10-30 is 10.1
http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp_internet/castrol/castrol_usa/STAGING/local_assets/downloads/p,q/pds_syntec_usa.pdf
suprarx7nut
12-23-2008, 03:09 AM
never saw somebody mention what weight they wanted... the difference between 5w30 and 0w30 is minimal...
uh.... no, no, no, no.
The difference between 5w30 and 0w30 is GERMAN CASTROL, among other things.
GC only comes in 0w30.
If you got 5w30, you did not get an ounce of GC. ;)
I wish wal mart carried GC, but I check every time I go there and have never seen GC there.
Once again, GC comes ONLY in 0w30.
Response to ninja edit:
The 0W–30 viscosity grade is ideal for winter conditions where low temperature pumpability is required. A unique, low–temperature formulation provides exceptional pumpability in cold weather and allows for unaided engine starts down to –40ºF.
While the 0w30 is thicker at op temps, it flows better when very cold. Plus, 0w30 is the only Castrol Syntec AFAIK that is a true synthetic. Its a group IV, as opposed to Group III.
Rennat
12-23-2008, 03:12 AM
too bad you cant find the GREEN stuff anymore, which is what everybody was raveing about... this "german" stuff is funny really...
all i know is that walmart had 5 quarts, for $20... which if you do the math, is a CRAZY GOOD DEAL. Im not here to debate whether or not the "german" stuff is any better...
and castrol calls its "european formula" btw...
Rennat
12-23-2008, 03:28 AM
but thats whats so funny... -40?
castrol doesnt even give you the viscosity of the oil at "cold"... it just says it flows really good... uhh... how bout some numbers?
go look up redline, and they tell you both. thats what i like to see, and read.
oh... and when was the last time you drove your car in -40 weather anyways? your car spends 80% of its life WARM, not cold... so i dont see the point in getting all caught up in the supra ultra low thickness of the oil at FREEZEING temps.
and just out of curisoty... where are you pulling this info that ONLY 0-30 is a group 4 and that all of the others are just group 3? Please post a link to back it up, or take that off, cause thats just misinformation that doesnt need to be spread...
CTsupra
12-23-2008, 08:52 AM
and just out of curisoty... where are you pulling this info that ONLY 0-30 is a group 4 and that all of the others are just group 3? Please post a link to back it up, or take that off, cause thats just misinformation that doesnt need to be spread...
He is correct.
Try reading the stickies in this section, or maybe this entire thread.
supramk3speed
12-23-2008, 09:39 AM
Lol, i just use valvoline 10w30 synthetic blend. It was thicker then 10w30 castrol syntec, and since i have leaky valve seals it kept my car from smoking too much. I now have a blown headgasket, so when i get it replaced (will replace valve seals as well )what oil is better for it that redline stuff or this castol 0w30? I have never even heard of redline, sorry i have had limited focus on motor oils.
deabionni
12-23-2008, 10:29 AM
and just out of curisoty... where are you pulling this info that ONLY 0-30 is a group 4 and that all of the others are just group 3? Please post a link to back it up, or take that off, cause thats just misinformation that doesnt need to be spread...
*sigh* Here's your link. (http://www.supramania.com/forums/showpost.php?p=538322&postcount=4)
That crap you found at China-Mart is comprised of a Group III base stock. That is NOT the highly sought after German Castrol. (In answer to another question you posted, we call it German Castrol, as it's made in Germany).
Also, not everybody lives in warmer climates. Some of us live in the colder northern regions, and it's not uncommon for us northern people to see sub-zero temperatures for days or weeks at a time. - **Ever have to pull the spark plugs out of an engine and bring them in the house to let them warm up, because they're too cold to fire? I have.** Anyway, for some people, how well an oil can flow when it's below freezing is very important to them.
Speaking of freezing, I've got a quart of German Castrol sitting in my garage, and you'd be surprised how well that oil will pour out of that bottle; even in northern Michigan's freezing winters.
deabionni
12-23-2008, 10:44 AM
Lol, i just use valvoline 10w30 synthetic blend. It was thicker then 10w30 castrol syntec, and since i have leaky valve seals it kept my car from smoking too much. I now have a blown headgasket, so when i get it replaced (will replace valve seals as well )what oil is better for it that redline stuff or this castol 0w30? I have never even heard of redline, sorry i have had limited focus on motor oils.
This thread (http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?p=538322#post538322) should give you some of the answers that you're looking for. (Post #8 (http://www.supramania.com/forums/showpost.php?p=576199&postcount=8) talks about some of the benefits of Red Line, but you'll learn more if you spend some time reading this section of the forums).
Rennat - All of the Castrol oils sold in the USA are Grp III hydrocracked oils with one exception, Castrol European Formula. It's identified by the "Made in Germany" on the back label...it's not the fact it was made in Germany, it's the only PAO base stock, Grp IV oil on the shelf at your common parts/department stores. Mobil 1, Pennzoil Platinum, Shell, Chevron, etc may be labeled "synthetics", but in reality are Grp III oils. The only other PAO based oil you commonly see is Royal Purple and the Amsoil ASL and Signature series oils...Red Line is a ester based Grp V oil.
All this stems from a court ruling many years ago as to what can be called a "synthetic oil". The court ruled that if "synthetic technology" was used in the formulation of the motor oil, it can be marketed as such. The API differs in it's definition...only the Grp IV (PAO) and Grp V (ester) oils are true synthetics. The base stocks are wholly man made, unlike the Grp III oils that use mineral oil extracted from the ground as the hydrocrack process feed. The other Grp III oils labeled as "synthetics" may have PAO or ester as part of the formulation, but not in sufficient quantity to be classified as a Grp IV or V oil.
oh... and when was the last time you drove your car in -40 weather anyways? your car spends 80% of its life WARM, not cold... so i dont see the point in getting all caught up in the supra ultra low thickness of the oil at FREEZEING temps.
Concerning the cold flow temperature the oil will perform at, most cases in the southern USA will never require that performance. The northern tier states do though....just because you don't have to worry about it in SoCal doesn't mean our Canadian friends don't have to worry about it. What you will see is the Grp IV and V oils have superior cold flow characteristics when compared to Grp III oils. The real concern is what viscosity the oil is at engine start, not lowest temp the oil will flow at. Guess what, the Grp IV and V oils are still better at this too. And, the cold flow temp number will give you a good idea of how well the oil will perform at cold engine start.
You are right (kinda of) about the primary concern of oil viscosity when the engine is at ops temp, but not about the 10 cst viscosity target. On a *stock* motor, Toyota (as well as other car makers) the design uses a 10 cst standard for viscosity...this is primarily for gas economy reasons while ensuring the engine gets the lubrication it needs.
A modified motor is a different story, the demands are higher and high temperatures becomes a factor. Viscosity drops exponentially once oil goes over the 100 deg C temp it was designed to perform at. That is why you hear me tell anyone that will listen to go with a bigger cooler on a thermostat controlled full flow oil cooling circuit. GC is a thicker 30W oil at ops temp...it provides a margin of protection for the higher temps a modified motor can experience. For the guys that are running a basically stock engine, I tell them to consider Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30...it's cold stat viscosity is actually a bit better than GC and will hit the 10 cst target at ops temp. In either case a better cooler is a very good idea.
BTW - To compare GC "cold" viscosity to other oil's spec sheets, is 72.9 cst at 40 deg C. One thing to keep in mind is the oil will get thicker below this temp, significantly at freezing or below temps. PAO oils like GC are excellent performers in cold weather like deabionni alluded to above. Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 is actually better like I said. Read the thread deabionni linked comparing a couple different oils. If you want to do a simple test on cold flow, put the oils you want to compare in the freezer for a few hours and pour on a cookie sheet set at a 30 deg incline. The oil that makes it to the bottom 1st, wins.
You can't make the statement this oil is best or that oil is best...it depends on what the demands of the engine are, how the oil system (cooler too) is designed, and what fuel economy you shoot for. In reality, you can run a Grp III oil with zero problems...you do want to pick the oil with the best additive pack to give you the temp range you need, will stay in the viscosity range between oil changes, and has excellent cold flow characteristics. Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 IMO is the Grp III oil that fits this bill for the 7M. My son changed to this oil on his '02 Honda Civic (non-modified daily driver) that specs a 5W-20. He went from 29 MPG to 36 MPG on just changing the oil...no other work was done on the motor. WARNING - I do not advocate using a 5W-20 oil in the 7M or JZ series engines!
and just out of curisoty... where are you pulling this info that ONLY 0-30 is a group 4 and that all of the others are just group 3? Please post a link to back it up, or take that off, cause thats just misinformation that doesnt need to be spread...
The source of this "misinformation" is me ;)
I have researched and read various SAE and API papers. Done oil analysis and read various reports that used gas chromatography/mass spectrometry to determine EXACTY what is in a given motor oil. If you want proof, do your own research to prove me wrong...I welcome the input.
Rennat
12-24-2008, 02:46 AM
This is the first i've heard that the 5-30 and 10-30 castrol syntec isnt as good as the 0-30... now im really glad i didnt buy some.
and jdub, im technically "nor-cal"... im pretty close to borhor and all of those bay area guys, no where really close to so-cal...
where did you find out the cold visc. of the GC?!!?!?! your own analysis? or was it posted somewhere else?
Ahhhh...Tracy CA. Home of the "Tracy Aces" as they were called back in the day of '80's aviation. Yep, I know where you are now...it doesn't get that cold there ;)
Gas chromatography/mass spectrometry analysis was done on GC and I have sent samples to Blackstone for analysis. It showed GC was indeed a PAO oil with ester adds...Blackstone analysis (not just mine either) has showed repeated cold viscosity in the 68-74 cst range. I posted the info in march '07 in post #4 of this thread:
http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?p=538322
SupraMan1987
03-10-2009, 02:14 PM
Just got info from a friend at AZ that their normal special will be beginning again this thursday 3-12-09. 5 quarts of any Castrol Synthetic and a K&N filter for 29.99. Just thought I would let you guys know, as I am going to stock up on 15 quarts or so of it.
drjonez
03-13-2009, 08:15 PM
Yup, it's on. March 12 through April 08, 2009.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT.
SupraMan1987
04-01-2009, 02:46 PM
Just bumping this us to remind everyone that this is only going on for another week as of today. It's a damn good deal. My total bill was right at $26, thats a $24 savings. I have 15 quarts and 3 filters now, and will probably grab at least 5 quarts and a filter if not 10 quarts and 2 filters more. It's a great deal, stock up now so you don't have to get reamed in case this deal isn't presented again for awhile.
Piratetip
04-01-2009, 03:02 PM
On my way to Pepboys, I hear they also have the deal.
drjonez
04-01-2009, 05:19 PM
Just bumping this us to remind everyone that this is only going on for another week as of today. It's a damn good deal. My total bill was right at $26, thats a $24 savings. I have 15 quarts and 3 filters now, and will probably grab at least 5 quarts and a filter if not 10 quarts and 2 filters more. It's a great deal, stock up now so you don't have to get reamed in case this deal isn't presented again for awhile.
How exactly did you pay $26? Sale price (here) is $29.99.....
Piratetip
04-01-2009, 05:27 PM
Same here, I paid $29ish.
Maybe they are listing it at the GTX price?
suprarx7nut
04-01-2009, 07:55 PM
I'll be picking some up this week. :)
SupraMan1987
04-01-2009, 10:43 PM
I have no idea, and was also mystified by it. Seems like I paid more last time, guess I need to do a thorough inspection of my receipt.
drjonez
04-02-2009, 06:53 AM
On my way to Pepboys, I hear they also have the deal.
Looks like $27.99 for 5 qts of GC and a FRAM (crap) oil filter.
Piratetip
04-02-2009, 07:54 AM
Yeah the Fram is the crap part of the deal, im more interested in the oil. :D
Mo87NA
04-02-2009, 08:38 PM
It was $27 total for me for 5 qts of GS and a K&N Filter at my local AZ ;)
-Mo
drjonez
04-02-2009, 08:43 PM
It was $27 total for me for 5 qts of GS and a K&N Filter at my local AZ ;)
-Mo
Yup, because they dropped the price from $29.99 to $24.99! Buy now people!
I'll be going back and seeing if I can get my $5 back....
suprarx7nut
04-06-2009, 12:22 AM
Yup, because they dropped the price from $29.99 to $24.99! Buy now people!
I'll be going back and seeing if I can get my $5 back....
Just picked up 16 quarts of GC and 3 K&N filters. The current deal is $24.99 for 5 QTS and a K&N. I saved just OVER $70 today and spent about $80.
DAMN good deal. :) My top closet shelf now looks like a auto parts store. :)
lol, this reminds me of the Seinfeld episode with the Sponges.
deabionni
08-21-2009, 06:24 PM
GC isn't being stocked at my local Autozone anymore, and it's been replaced with an American version of 0W 30. Notice the bottle doesn't have "Made in Germany" anywhere on the back.
mkIIIman089
08-21-2009, 09:38 PM
Looks to me like some very old batch they threw up there, it doesn't seem to even remotely match the other bottles.
Pernilongo
08-22-2009, 10:14 PM
GC isn't being stocked at my local Autozone anymore, and it's been replaced with an American version of 0W 30. Notice the bottle doesn't have "Made in Germany" anywhere on the back.
I think it might be actually the new gold castrol i've read about it on bobistheoilguy.com. its just as good as old GC as if i remember correctly. It also says energy conserving now unlike old GC. They probably certified it.
I think it might be actually the new gold castrol i've read about it on bobistheoilguy.com. its just as good as old GC as if i remember correctly. It also says energy conserving now unlike old GC. They probably certified it.
No it's not ;)
GC gold has been around since early 2005...the previous stuff was GC green. They are basically the same oil (PAO based), but it can be argued green GC has a better additive pack. Both were made in Germany.
The version pictured above is not the European Formula, it's made in the USA, and it's base stock is hydrocracked dino oil like the rest of Castrol's USA line. It is not GC in any way. The only common factor is both GC and this are 0W-30.
sweetlikechutny
09-01-2009, 01:57 AM
question guys,
I used to use amsoil sythetic signature series and amsoil filter, change every 10k kilometers.
too expensive now. So I picked up GC 0w30 and napa gold filter...how often do I need to change oil and filter?
This is for a 1jz
autozone in my area has the deal going on again. I picked some up and it is the first time im going to use it after finialy waiting for the time to change my oil. Hopefully all the rants and raves are worth it!
suprarx7nut
11-01-2009, 11:09 PM
I just noticed the Autozone ad here too.
28 bucks for 5 qts and a KN filter.
Not too bad at all. :)
Bri7man
11-02-2009, 01:25 AM
I just noticed the Autozone ad here too.
28 bucks for 5 qts and a KN filter.
Not too bad at all. :)
Yeah I just did this yesterday. I was really surprised because I was under the impression this stuff is pricey since it's so hard to find yet alone a deal with a quality filter.
Badass
JPsToyota
11-03-2009, 12:50 AM
I've never seen this deal, I'll have to go check it out. I just bought 7 quarts not too long ago :(
suprarx7nut
11-03-2009, 01:55 AM
Just bought my 5 quarts and KN filter. 28 bucks. :)
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