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Grimsta
10-05-2007, 04:27 PM
I just picked up a completely disassembled 2JZ, the guy told me it was a GTE, but i saw it and believe its just a GE, whatever its cool, it was $100! You can tell by the valve covers can't you? Just wanted to confirm, the GE has a dip in the middle of the VC for their top fed intake mani right?
Big Wang Bandit
10-05-2007, 04:34 PM
Yes sir
Supracentral
10-05-2007, 05:18 PM
Does it have a distributor?

2JZ-GTE's don't use a distributor style CPS like the 7M-GTE does.
cactus_mole
10-05-2007, 05:21 PM
if you have the valve covers they kinda look like the 7m ones. 2jzgte ones are nice and rounded.

$100! nice, i got mine for $250....
Grimsta
10-06-2007, 12:54 AM
No electronic w/ it, just the engine. But yeah the VCs look similar to the 7M. I gotta bore it out .030 and get forged pistons anyways, so, nothing lost on the NA motor. With the pistons it'll be the same. I'll have to pick up the other things like the cam sensor, ignitor, map, etc.

Cactus, you from Santa Rosa also! Whats ur car look like?
BlackMKIII
10-06-2007, 12:56 AM
Yeehah! Ace is goin' 2J. Wanna race when we're both done? ;)
Grimsta
10-06-2007, 12:58 AM
Lol, yeah, if you join NASA ;)
I wont be done for nearly a year and a half. BTW, i like your mouse!
BJ91T
10-06-2007, 01:14 AM
oil squirters in the block would be a dead givaway
Grimsta
10-06-2007, 02:13 AM
No oil squirters, sh*t!!!! I will need those with 500hp, crap!
hottscennessey
10-06-2007, 11:49 AM
I have 500+ without oil squirters.. no problems here.
cactus_mole
10-06-2007, 12:55 PM
Its a metallic pearl white...

funny, were both going to have over 500hp 2j supra's...intresting:sarcasm:
Grimsta
10-06-2007, 02:12 PM
Well if Hotscennescy (whatever!) has 500+ w/o squirters i'll take that. So Cactus, you got a 500hp 2JZ Supra and live in Santa Rosa!? Where the hell are you? Unless its stealth as f$&k i've never seen such a thing. PM me your number, i'll give you mine and we'll have to hang out!
Poodles
10-06-2007, 03:39 PM
forged pistons are a must without oil squirters IMHO...
cactus_mole
10-06-2007, 09:56 PM
oh ahhaha no not 500hp yet but ordering lots of parts soon....:biglaugh:

i never see any other supra's either.
Grimsta
10-07-2007, 02:42 AM
Yeah i will be putting in forged pistons w/ coating. Still haven't decided on what coating yet though. Should i still put in squirters for road racing?
AnclyT
10-09-2007, 07:07 PM
yes, better to be safe than sorry
BJ91T
10-10-2007, 01:36 PM
how do you plan to put squirters in exactly?
yrallofthenamestaken
10-10-2007, 06:54 PM
how do you plan to put squirters in exactly?

You can drill the block, it's been done before. I do not believe it's worth your time, forged or not. However if you are going forged, then don't worry about oil squirters.
Grimsta
10-11-2007, 12:45 PM
I'll continue to go back and forth, but in the end, since i'm overboring it anyways, i may have the machinist drill and tap it for the squirters anyways. Only thing is then since the NA didnt have the controled "leak" of the squirters, will the oil pump be able to keep up? Or should i shim the 2JZ pump like the 7M pump, to raise the oil pressure
Poodles
10-11-2007, 06:35 PM
or go with a TT pump...

need to replace the pump anyway
Grimsta
10-11-2007, 08:45 PM
touche'
DaveH
10-12-2007, 03:55 PM
IMO you don't need the squirters at all unless you plan on roadracing,etc. We run the GE block on the 2jz Probe at close to 900 hp with stock pistons, rods and no oil squirters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4EKyOt4rNI

I don't have the squirters in my personal car either.
Grimsta
10-12-2007, 04:42 PM
Well i am doing road racing so i will put them in
annoyingrob
10-25-2007, 06:35 PM
Well i am doing road racing so i will put them in
The question is, will your new pistons fit with oil squirters in the way?
Grimsta
10-26-2007, 11:55 AM
Good point, but probably since forged pistons they make for the GTE dont get in the way of those
toyota1515
11-08-2007, 05:28 PM
IMO you don't need the squirters at all unless you plan on roadracing,etc. We run the GE block on the 2jz Probe at close to 900 hp with stock pistons, rods and no oil squirters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4EKyOt4rNI

I don't have the squirters in my personal car either.

that was what i was about to say i have seen couple of them GE's doing more than 800 whp with stock internals with awesome reliabillity. anyway is a better insurance to prep it good with good forged parts so it will be a hassle free bulletproof shortblock! just my humble opinion!
annoyingrob
11-19-2007, 10:26 AM
Good point, but probably since forged pistons they make for the GTE dont get in the way of those
OK, that's fine. I know that SOME aftermarket pistons don't clear the squirters.


Also, MOST aftermarket pistons don't really make use of the squirters. They don't have the oil galleys in the pistons for them. (You'll notice stock have a little hole where the oil squirts INTO the piston) All you're going to have is oil splashing on the bottom of the pistons, which I suppose is good for something.

My opinion is still that the squirters are unnecessary.
Grimsta
11-19-2007, 07:15 PM
It also gets the wrist pin lubricated. I decided i'll be drilling holes directly into the main passage and bolting them in w/ a banjo fitting.