HELLO Supramaniacs !! MY BUILD THREAD! (Boost inside aka I really wanted a Mk3)

[Element256]

I've been banned of SF and frankly I'm sick of it to begin with (LONG story)
and I'm joining this community now.
I realize this is a MKIII forum BUT I have a surprise.
I'm swapping in a R154 tranny to my auto TT MKIV :aigo:
Since my 2 days of joining the site I've already obtained more "useful" knowledge of the tranny\setup than my 2yrs on SF, so I'm here to stay.

I guess this is the best place to do the buildup\progress thread (if not point me to the right place) so here we go.

Bought the car last winter stock from FL with blown engine. It had been wrecked on the front\passenger fender and had just been sitting at some mechanics shop for the last 2yrs collecting debris\hurricane damage.:cry:

Since then I've started revamping it in its entirety starting with a JDM shortblock and new brakes and seats.
Also while the engine was pulled I put on a SP57 single turbo and all the fixings. Spools at 3k and hits max boost\power around 4100rpm and holds there with a slight increase all the way to redline.
Power was at 419whp\397tq @ 0.8bar psi during dyno tune. I've since street tuned it and bumped it up to 1.1bar so should be pushing around 470whp. We'll see what happens @ SILV Dyno day. :)

R154 swap is being done by your boy Aaron @ driftmotion, where I'm also picking up the Custom Action clutch and LWFW as well for amazing prices, so if you need a new one hit that man up !

Also going in for a respray later this month since hurricane Katrina wasn't too kind to the car.

That's about it for now. Here's a few straight off the trailer to current status pics and I'll update further as progress is made on the car.

Off the trailer and into the garage:
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First wash:
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First drive:
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First set of wheels (Work Equip oldschool 18x8.5 \ 18x9.5)
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Engine:
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[Element256]

And How it's sitting now: (SSR SP1 18x9.5 \ 18x11)
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Quick vid clip of me racing a RS4 (and losing at the time cause the tranny slips after 140 :( )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W9H8eaNWP8

[Element256]

BAM !!!

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Now THAT'S some glossy paint !!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/element256/09-28%20Pics/DSC05895.jpg

And SKY says "LET ME OUTTA THIS CAGE SO I CAN BANG THE NEIGHBORS DOGS"
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Mods-

Engine:

SP57 Single Turbo / with custom manifold and filter.
4" piping straight through to a Greddy Exhaust (with silencer cause CHP= :banghead: )
HKS SSQ BOV
HKS FMIC with 3" piping.
Koyo Radiator /w radiator hardpipe.
Blitz Radiator cap with lengthened shaft.
MapECU with tuning via laptop (similar to VAGCom but more capabilities\control as a piggyback system on top of the stock ECU

Exterior:
Debaged
Greddy front lip (modified)
Blitz Sideskirts
Top Secret Carbon Fiber hood painted black
Shaved Wingless hatch
SSR SP1 wheels in 18x9.5 \ 18x11
Dunlop Sport 9000 245\40\18
Bridgestone Potenza R03 275\40\18

Transmission\Suspension:
Tein Basic Coilovers @ 50%
R154 5spd tranny swap
Custom built Action Clutch (courtesy of Drift Motion)
Cusco Front and Rear Strut Bars
Sparco Harness Bar

Interior:
Sparco Torino Seats and Sliders /w Wedge Brackets
Blitz BLM gauges (Boost \ EGT)
Custom CarPC with 7" Touchscreen and JL Component Speakers.

[Element256]

This too.

[s!ke]

lol, how much did you get your supra for?

[Element256]

Decent Price

[empera]

welcome man, enjoy ur stay...and yes SF sucks monkey balls!

[werewolves182]

Looks great. How cheap is cheap?...just so it can make me jealous

[mclabaugh]

nice supra:icon_bigg eventually that is where i want to be an MKIV supra....sweeet!!

[Element256]

Added vid

[werewolves182]

damn, thats awesome element. Congrats on the reconstruction.

[Ckanderson]

Very nice car! I Love the work equips ;)

[kwnate]

Welcome, you should swap a 7m in there ;)

[plaaya69]

^lol.

[da89soup]

Ok I guess we will take a MK4 just this one time???:biglaugh:

Welcome and nice job on putting it back together.....:icon_bigg

[Element256]

Very nice car! I Love the work equips ;)

Yeah me too but someone wanted to buy them for more than I paid and how often do you MAKE $ off used parts ? Funded my whole new wheel\tire combo setup :naughty:

[Element256]

Ok I guess we will take a MK4 just this one time???:biglaugh:

Welcome and nice job on putting it back together.....:icon_bigg

Thanx....Just sad to see a car they only made 10k of sitting at some ma\pop mech shop going through hurricane after hurricane.

[BorHor]

Damn your first rims are BALLIN.

[grsupra87]

very very nice. I too love the Work Equips. Glad to see you at the best Supra community there is.

[PROJECT N00b]

Congrats and what a great find.

[Emik87t]

Love the rims. That things lookin much better, and ya SM is better than SF.

[lenny]

damn tahts some good numbers at that boost level

[soapra]

I guess doing a R154 in a MK4 was a good Idea.

[Element256]

I hope so :)
All I know is I was pricing for the 6spd V160 swap and the tranny alone goes for like $4k if it's in good condition and I'm doing the whole swap with parts\labor etc for less than that on the R154.
I've seen some HIGH HP MKIII's running the stock tranny and figured it'd be more than enough to handle my needs as of now.

[OneJoeZee]

Sup d00d. quit stalkin me around Chino Hills! :aigo:

[cartel1_950]

just a question? but isn't the getrag the 6spd?? i'm a little behind on my mkiv facts! and beautiful car!

[Element256]

^^Yes it is.
Getrag V160 6spd is the stock MKIV Manual Tranny

[Justin727]

Good find! I actually went looking around for mkiv's after Katrina. I didnt find any flooded ones at all... :( I give you props sir for bringing what most would think be a total loss back to life!

[soapra]

I hope so :)
All I know is I was pricing for the 6spd V160 swap and the tranny alone goes for like $4k if it's in good condition and I'm doing the whole swap with parts\labor etc for less than that on the R154.
I've seen some HIGH HP MKIII's running the stock tranny and figured it'd be more than enough to handle my needs as of now.


Yea I did the R154 on the Gold Supra. Came out nice.

[Element256]

On the R154 note has anyone heard of the 1st gear Thrust Washer being a weakpoint ? I read somewhere it was Nylon which I refuse to believe and that replacing it with a better material increases the resiliance of the tranny.

[LilMissMkIII]

Hey mate, nice find, and lovely work!!!!

Your choice in rims is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!

[91 mK3]

great work on the supra bro. those new rims and sick. whats the offset on those?

[Element256]

37 \ 30


On the R154 note has anyone heard of the 1st gear Thrust Washer being a weakpoint ? I read somewhere it was Nylon which I refuse to believe and that replacing it with a better material increases the resiliance of the tranny.

[IJ.]

We're a bit more laid back here and not quite as confrontational :)

[OneJoeZee]

We're a bit more laid back here and not quite as confrontational :)

I am.:naughty:

[IJ.]

Well excluding Joe but no one pays him any attention as he has no torque :biglaugh:

[OneJoeZee]

Whatever, automagic boy. ;)

[Element256]

Ooohhhh hatin the autos !

Joe you going to the DT meet tonight ?

[csnow]

Welcome, I spend more time here than SF as well.

[Justin727]

37 \ 30


On the R154 note has anyone heard of the 1st gear Thrust Washer being a weakpoint ? I read somewhere it was Nylon which I refuse to believe and that replacing it with a better material increases the resiliance of the tranny.


yes it is. mine broke and i replaced it with a new one holding just fine! and no its not a nylon thrust washer

[GeneStarWindGSW]

I'm just trying to find a thrust washer itself for sale. Don't want to buy the whole rebuild kit.

[Element256]

I could probably find someone to fab a new one out of a better material. Wonder if that would be a worthwhile endeavor for everyone. Or there's prolly not even that many R154 people that have the stock washer still.

[Justin727]

you can pick up 1st gear thrust washer at yota for 30.00 also the the little holding pin for it as well..
The idea of fabbing one up has come up every now and then but no one has jumped on that boat to make one. It would be a good idea to take on!

[upgradedsupra]

I moved this to the intro forum.

Welcome BTW :) and nice car!

Duane

[Element256]

don't move this....This is my buildup thread.
I already have an intro thread.

[IJ.]

Fixed ;)

[upgradedsupra]

don't move this....This is my buildup thread.
I already have an intro thread.

Fine..I edited the Title as it seems more appropriate since it is after all a "build" section ;)

Again nice car :)

Duane

[IJ.]

I helped make the title better :runaway:

[Element256]

HAHAHHAHAHA @ the new title.

Tough crowd here.

[ViR2]

great find ;)

[Element256]

Okay going in for paint next week as well as going WINGLESS !!!
And I might just have one more special item up front as well :) I'll know more tomorrow night if I get it or not.

[OneJoeZee]

as well as going WINGLESS !!!

Good.

[Element256]

Car's in the shop getting some bodywork\Paint.
I'll see if I can't swing in for some transformation pics if I get time during work.

[buckshotglass]

I say chop the wing and leave some 50's tails, but don't listen to me.

[Element256]

^^^That made no sense what so ever

[buckshotglass]

Think Batmobile.

[Element256]

Edited page 1 with a mods list :)

[BlackDevilSupra]

I vote to lock this thread immediately :-)
I can foresee this non-traditional swap being a success, thus, placing higher demand on the dwindling supplies of R154's. Lock it now so that no additional valuable information is contributed and notifying the world of this cost effective option - LOL.

[Element256]

Nah you know how MKIV owners are. Most wouldn't put anything MKIII in their car. Cause V160 > any tranny in existance evidentally

[johnathan1]

A MKIV!!

OMG CALL THE NEWZ!

[Element256]

OMGHI2U2

[Element256]

Car is coming home tonight. Pics hopefully tonight or this weekend at latest.

YAY

[7Mboost]

You wouldn't still happen to have those Work Equips would you? or what you did with them?

[Element256]

Nah man. Some guy in Canada wanted them so bad he paid for my next set of wheels\tires AND shipping up there.
Hard to find those old school Equips.
I know a guy that imports them occasionally still. If you want a set PM me the sizes\pattern you want and I'll see if he has any.

[Poodles]

Nah you know how MKIV owners are. Most wouldn't put anything MKIII in their car. Cause V160 > any tranny in existance evidentally

well, the V160 has proven to hold +1000hp, while the R154 has the thrust washer issues...

plus, it's a 6 speed vs a 5 speed, what you expect LOL

[Element256]

Camera phone pics, need to find my USB cable for the real camera. :(

And since when does having a 6th gear help anything ? Most of my 6spd cars I never even used it, unless I was cruising at 100mph but how often do I get open traffic around here ?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/element256/Element256NEW.jpg
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[OneJoeZee]

plus, it's a 6 speed vs a 5 speed, what you expect LOL
?

[Poodles]

not exactly what you'd think

Depending on design, the 6th gear is usually a second overdrive, or used to get closer gear ratios. As a second overdrive, it drops revs and gets beter milage on the highway (or ultimately higher top end, hence the MKIV's 200mph+ ability). As closer ratios you stay in your powerband easier.

The V160 is a rediculously stout tranny to take the abuse I've seen it take. At those levels though, if it DOES break it's driver error (like missing a shift).

[OneJoeZee]

Uh. The V160 is not double overdrive.

[Poodles]

wasn't quite sure, but knowing that just tells me it's to keep the car in the proper powerband easier...

[OneJoeZee]

I guess.

R154
* First Gear: 3.250:1
* Second Gear: 1.955:1
* Third Gear: 1.310:1
* Fourth Gear: 1.00:1
* Fifth Gear: 0.753:1


V160
* First Gear: 3.830:1
* Second Gear: 2.360:1
* Third Gear: 1.680:1
* Fourth Gear: 1.310:1
* Fifth Gear: 1.00:1
* Sixth Gear: 0.790:1

[Element256]

NEW PICS ON PAGE 1 !!!

[Poodles]

liked it better with the wing, but I seem to be the only one that likes the stock wing...

[Element256]

No I like it too, I'm just not a fan of wings etc in general though and wanted a sleeker look.

[LilMissMkIII]

TURTLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

;)

[SupraOfDoom]

Looks pretty good now!

[Skam9685]

hey element...was this off ebay? cuz I seen a car on ebay just like that one and it was from Katrina as well

[Element256]

^^^Negative.
My dad stumbled across it at a mechanic shop when fixing his car and called me up and I sent the money next day.

[ERA]

This car is absolutely beautiful. :) You should get a pair of 97+ headlights hah.

[Element256]

$ is now an issue unfortunately :( I'll have to save for anything from here out.

[IJ.]

$ is now an issue unfortunately :( I'll have to save for anything from here out.
Ahhh now I understand why you're on a Mk3 site :D

[Justin727]

ya know I've searched really hard after katrina for a flooded mk4... :( no luck. But i've only known you and another guy which is local to actually get one from katrina area.
Really makes me angry since I'm right in the middle of all this and it slipped right passed me...
BAH

[CACressida]

I like the factory wing..

[Element256]

ya know I've searched really hard after katrina for a flooded mk4... :( no luck. But i've only known you and another guy which is local to actually get one from katrina area.
Really makes me angry since I'm right in the middle of all this and it slipped right passed me...
BAH

This wasn't flooded. Just wind damage.
It sat outside through katrina and got the debris damage but never flooded.

[Element256]

NEW PICS on PAGE 1.

And here's a link to the full album:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v494/element256/09-28%20Pics

[Mr.PFloyd]

WOW... What a sexy mother f'in car! 11/10 from me!

[gtsfirefighter]

I like a wingless MKIV. It looks to ricy with that stock wing, to me anyway. Nice find though. Black FTW.

[Sawbladz]

We have a local guy who has put a V160 into a Mk3 and we are all speculating that first gear will be absolutely useless due to the high gear ratio's of the tranny and rear end. Does your car have the opposite effect? Do you find it a bit in first? With your mods this probably isn't an issue but maybe with a stock Mk4 it might be more noticeable.

Also, I much prefer the new wheels and wingless. You are now driving my ultimate Mk4. I think the Work Equips are more suited to Mk3's.

[Wills7MGTE]

Great looking MK4, Black leather interior FTW!!! Toyota F'ed us MK3 owners up all I got was a dark blue interior, black in a mk3 is like finding a hot girl with low self esteem. But I digress.

The only way you could make it better looking would be if you had a CF TRD vented hood. I love that hood on the MK4 the knock offs for other cars look crappy because it only works on a mk4's lines. Nice car though man +10 for you!

[foreverpsycotic]

wingless FTW

[Element256]

We have a local guy who has put a V160 into a Mk3 and we are all speculating that first gear will be absolutely useless due to the high gear ratio's of the tranny and rear end. Does your car have the opposite effect? Do you find it a bit in first? With your mods this probably isn't an issue but maybe with a stock Mk4 it might be more noticeable.

Also, I much prefer the new wheels and wingless. You are now driving my ultimate Mk4. I think the Work Equips are more suited to Mk3's.

1st gear is fine as far as the revs\gearing go but the power that comes on @ 3k just ignites the tires so I quickly go into 2nd anyways. The R154 matches VERY nicely with the Auto TT rear gearing.

TY for the love.

Great looking MK4, Black leather interior FTW!!! Toyota F'ed us MK3 owners up all I got was a dark blue interior, black in a mk3 is like finding a hot girl with low self esteem. But I digress.

The only way you could make it better looking would be if you had a CF TRD vented hood. I love that hood on the MK4 the knock offs for other cars look crappy because it only works on a mk4's lines. Nice car though man +10 for you!

If you want my black leather you can buy it. It's just sitting in my house cause I have the sparcos in currently.
Also I have this hood :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/element256/DSC04277.jpg

but I ESPECIALLY like to drive the car while it's raining so all the aftermarket hoods I decided to not put on so my engine doesn't get soaked.

[Jayhall]

wow, good find on a project car. It coming together very nicely

[noah89t]

very nice car, i know how katrina could abuse a supra, mine was on keesler air force base.

[zachm611]

very very nice car i too was on keesler at the time... the damage was crazy. i wish i could find some sort of mk4 project like yours.

[Interex]

Looks good man. Im actually about to do an R154 conversion on my TT as well. Do you have any pics of the work that they did to extend the shifter? I have a few of the W58 that was extended on clubna-t but haven't see an R154. The shifters look identical but just wanted to see for myself. I just got a Soarer transmission but I'm probably going to end up just using it to get the right measurements to build a custom extension on a USDM R154.

[Poodles]

driftmotion did it IIRC, he Aaron said he was going to work on stocking all the parts needed...

[Element256]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/BigAaron/driftmotion%20customer%20cars/SANY0006Medium.jpg

There's a 240sx shop that does these for $250 and IMO the quality of that weld is well worth it.

Here's Aaron's thread.
http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52769

[Rajunz]

Badass car, you have great taste, it looks perfect..............and sell that hood, it looks perfect just as it sits.

[Element256]

Car is up for sale due to financial restraints.
If you of a party interested plz point them this way.

I'm open to trades + cash or straight up offers.
Link in my sig. :(

[suprarx7nut]

:( :( :( :( :( :(

[buckshotglass]

I would have a tough time parting with that car. The new house needs it in the garage.

[BlackMKIII]

Dude. What the hell. That really sucks dude. Can't you take out a loan with the car as collateral?

[Element256]

I don't like loans and interest rates. Why pay 7-10% more per month for something I already own free and clear ?

Also I need the cash in bank and having a $30k debt payment isn't gonna do anything positive for my construction loan. They're NOT easy to get out here and I'll have to pay taxes on the whole thing upfront as well.

Whoever gets this I'll probably be buying it back in a little over a year if he'll sell it back to me.

[Poodles]

see if you can get a friend to do it...

honestly, you'll never be able to build that car again for that much...

[Element256]

For over $40k ? I think I can build it again for that price. lol
Would I want to ? No, but it could be done. I'd rather buy it back cause it's AWESOME !! R154 > V160

[Poodles]

gotta remember that a decent TT goes for $25 these days...

and you're not asking $40K... you're losing money on this. Seriously, see if you can find a good friend to sell it to and then buy it back...

[Element256]

Losing $10k on this is better than losing $1mil by not building the house. Seriously it has to go and all my friends drive MKII and MKIII's. No chance in purchasing a $30k car.

[Poodles]

:(

really tough choice... maybe one of the shop owners would do it for you?

[Element256]

shop owners would do what ?

[86_sports_1jz]

car looks good dude!

[AnclyT]

car has been through a lot


looks like it keeps gettin better

[suprabad]

We're a bit more laid back here and not quite as confrontational :)


Never any confrontation here...:sarcasm:

[Element256]

Fuck the house. The car is staying for now. I'll make money some other way. ;)

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[OneJoeZee]

Word

Now gimme your wheels

[Element256]

You can have them for a cool $2k IF I ever decide to sell. Took me a while to find these with Supra front brake offsets that would fit.
If I ever see something else I like as much as these I might change it up. But as of now nobody makes a better looking wheel IMO.

[upgradedsupra]

A big transformation but I like it with the wing better. (my.02)

Duane

[Element256]

The wing does look amazing from the rear. Front and side angles on the other hand, not so much :(

Plus less people really take notice without the wing, which was one of the main reasons for it.

[foreverpsycotic]

Fuck the house. The car is staying for now. I'll make money some other way. ;)


Glad to hear it.

[upgradedsupra]

The wing does look amazing from the rear. Front and side angles on the other hand, not so much :(

Plus less people really take notice without the wing, which was one of the main reasons for it.

So you took it off for less attention then? I always liked the OEM wing since it is hidden in the body lines when you are following behind it.

Duane

[Element256]

I agree. From behind it's awesome looking. from the side, it's hideous.

[BlackMKIII]

I agree. From behind it's awesome looking. from the side, it's hideous.

:word8kn:

Glad to hear you're keeping it. :bigthumb:

[2jzswapper]

Hey love the car ! i was in LV for the SILVA show, then back 3 weeks later for SEMA lol so much traveling!:aigo: Great build but wanted to know if you would still sell the car to the right buyer? :naughty:

Oh and you guys ever need that shifter extension.... lol I work at the shop that makes them www.2jzswap.com or www.tech2motorsports.com.... we put 1JZ and 2JZ into 240sx and FD RX-7 Take that triangles~~!!!.

I'm buildin an 1.5jz for my MKIII but I absolutely love your MKIV. Give me a pm here on on the 2jzswap forum same name.

Sean
www.tech2motorsports.com
www.2jzswap.com

[Element256]

I guess it's still for sale for the right buyer, I'm just not going to "actively" pursue getting it sold anymore or pay any $ putting up ads etc...