Help quick, car want start. Stuck at work.

[Z'mnypit]

Well Im sitting here stuck at work because the supra want crank. It want even try to turn over. Earlier I was messing with the door locks, and tried opening the door. The alarm went off, and I have no wireless key fob. I opened the door inserted the key in the ignition and it went off. Went back to work and now Im trying to leave and the battery is new, all lights are on but it want even turn over. Anybody know what to do fast? Im stuck at work as this is my only means of tranportation home.

Thanks!

[TurboFreak]

k think i can help. Manually un-lock the driver and passenger side doors with the key from the outside. Should deactivate the starter-kill function.

[Z'mnypit]

k think i can help. Manually un-lock the driver and passenger side doors with the key from the outside. Should deactivate the starter-kill function.
Lock the doors then unlock them They are both unlocked...

[TurboFreak]

Yeah I would do that. I know it sounds simple but that is what I read to do to deactivate the starter kill-switch.

[starscream5000]

Yep, try that. Close the door, lock it with the key, unlock, then start. If that doesn't work. lock the doors using the lock button on the inside, close them, then unlock again with the key. My old, original supra key ALWAYS sets off the alarm, I had a new key made for the car when I bought it as the original is pretty rough looking... Never had an issue with the new copy...

[Z'mnypit]

Yeah I would do that. I know it sounds simple but that is what I read to do to deactivate the starter kill-switch.
Man, I tried locking and unlocking both doors, and nothing seems to work... Any other suggestions? Can I just pull a fuse or something?

[starscream5000]

Did you try either way that I suggested?

[TurboFreak]

I guess if those methods dont work(which they should) then you could always push start it...

[Z'mnypit]

Did you try either way that I suggested?
I tried both first, I rolled down the windows, locked the DS door with the key then unlock with the key. Tried to start and nothing. Did the same process on the pass side and nothing. Then locked them using the switch and unlocked with the key and still nothing.

Would push starting it work?

[starscream5000]

Yes

[Z'mnypit]

Yes
Well if it doensnt work Im screwed. Ill be in the main hwy stuck... This sucks!

[starscream5000]

I'm guessing if we don't back from him in a few then he's fine and on his way home...

[Z'mnypit]

I'm guessing if we don't back from him in a few then he's fine and on his way home...
Im still hear. Nothing is working.. I disconected the battery and still not working!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Guess this is going to be a long nite!

[starscream5000]

Was there anything else that you did to the car today? Did you try push starting?

[Z'mnypit]

Was there anything else that you did to the car today? Did you try push starting?
Not a thing... Cant push start cause if that doesnt work Im stuck in the hwy with no where to go...

[starscream5000]

Ok, is there anyway you can push the car around and try push starting in a different direction? If it was a simple, "I set the car alarm off, now car won't start" then the key trick would work. Sounds like your problem may be elsewhere...

[speed]

Might want to check that the starter plug is plugged in. On mine and my buddy's, it would come off surprisingly frequently. Just stick your arm down there, see if you can feel it still plugged in.

[Z'mnypit]

Ill check the plug on the starter. If I new it would start and not get stuck in the highway I would be I cant! Thats all ive done is lock the doors, the alarm goes off and now nothing. This sucks majorly. I can lock the door with the key watch the security light come on then then unlock. It goes off then does nothing when i try to spin it over....

[Z'mnypit]

Welp looks like its sleeping down town tonight! POS!

[starscream5000]

No click or anything?

[Z'mnypit]

No click or anything?
Nothing! Battery is good. The windows roll up and down, and lights come on and all...

[starscream5000]

It's gotta be in the factory alarm, check and see if there is a thread on here on how to bypass it.

[Z'mnypit]

Screw it, got somebody on the way to pick me up... Ill mess with it tommorow! Thanks for the replies so fast. If there is anything else ya'll can think of let me know and Ill try it tommorow.

[starscream5000]

Get home tonight and search here to see if anyone else has experience this problem, I'm heading home too...

[Burntz]

Sneak back later in the night when no1 is on the highway and try push starting it :)

[Z'mnypit]

Sneak back later in the night when no1 is on the highway and try push starting it :)
Its about 35mi away. Even if it did start Im still going to need it to start again..

Anybody have any info on disabling the factory alarm?

[johnathan1]

Direct power to the starter, or push start.

[Z'mnypit]

Direct power to the starter, or push start.
Dont mind doing that, but again Im still going to need it to start all the time. Its my DD. If it doesnt start Ill go get my uncles roll back so getting it home isnt a problem....

[Aspec]

Roll your windows up. Shut the doors. Go to the passenger door. Using your key in the door lock, twist the key to lock the doors twice. Now wait for 20-30 seconds. Now unlock the passenger door twice but do not open it. Now go to the drv door. Unlock it, get in and try to start it.

[Dunckel]

Roll your windows up. Shut the doors. Go to the passenger door. Using your key in the door lock, twist the key to lock the doors twice. Now wait for 20-30 seconds. Now unlock the passenger door twice but do not open it. Now go to the drv door. Unlock it, get in and try to start it.

yup yup. my drivers side is shot also. use the passenger side to reset the alarm.

[Z'mnypit]

Roll your windows up. Shut the doors. Go to the passenger door. Using your key in the door lock, twist the key to lock the doors twice. Now wait for 20-30 seconds. Now unlock the passenger door twice but do not open it. Now go to the drv door. Unlock it, get in and try to start it.
No go... Same results... If I unhook the PCM and plug everything back in would that help? Maybe like reseting it or something?

[starscream5000]

Try it and see. Did you attempt to bypass the system like mentioned in your other thread?

[Z'mnypit]

Try it and see. Did you attempt to bypass the system like mentioned in your other thread?
Just printed everything off and Im about to go do that... Ill post the results in an hour or so...

[Aspec]

No go... Same results... If I unhook the PCM and plug everything back in would that help? Maybe like reseting it or something?

Forgot to mention... Make sure your hood and your hatch are closed before you try to reset the alarm using the procedure I gave you.

[Z'mnypit]

Forgot to mention... Make sure your hood and your hatch are closed before you try to reset the alarm using the procedure I gave you.
It was... I locked the pass door, then turned the key in the same direction again. Waited 1min, unlocked the pass door, turned the key in the unlock direction a 2nd time then unlocked the drivers side door. Then tried to start. Nothing!

Took the pink wire off the hood latch and jumped it with the white/black wire and tried to start and nothing..

Removed the ECU, reinstalled the ECU and tried to start and nothing. I honestly have no clue what the hell is going on with this car....

[Aspec]

Removed the ECU, reinstalled the ECU and tried to start and nothing. I honestly have no clue what the hell is going on with this car....

The Anti-Theft system has it's own computer so that wouldn't help you.

Okay. If you can not work on it where it is then get it home by either push start, jumper the starter or flatbed. Then...

Start here:
http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/TSRM/MK3/manual.aspx?Section=BE&Page=85

Read the entire section (pages BE85 to BE102) then use the flow charts and diagnostic trees to track down your problem, assuming this is an alarm issue and everything else is okay. Let us know

[starscream5000]

I'm sticking by the statement saying that if the problem is actually in your antitheft system, then a push start WILL start the car! Get the damn thing started by pushing start, and go straight home, if you need to stop for gas, don't turn it off!

[Z'mnypit]

LOL, Thanks guys. Ill try to push start later. Ive got shaeff's directions on getting rid of the theft system. Im going to give that a shot first.

But first Im going to try the radio fuse. Read 86-88's would disarm the system by removing the radio fuse..

[Z'mnypit]

Got rid of the theft system by grounding the blue/orange wire on the theft ecu harness and it turns over now. Thank the lord! Dont know what I'd do if I never found this forum. Thanks!

[starscream5000]

So, was it a grounding issue or what? I'm not sure exactly what you did or if that wire's suppost to be grounded in stock form...

[Big Wang Bandit]

Should of driven that sick ass Camaro......

:rofl:

[Burntz]

Should of driven that sick ass Camaro......

:rofl:
Forrizzle

[Z'mnypit]

So, was it a grounding issue or what? I'm not sure exactly what you did or if that wire's suppost to be grounded in stock form...
I did this: http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1515#post1515

I would drive the camaro but 13-16mpg isnt fun nor cheap.. Id hate to have to put gas in that thing every 2-3 days...

[starscream5000]

Ah, gotta save that one just in case... ;)

[Big Wang Bandit]

omg stop posting.

Your camaro is fucking sick. I demand you drive it to me.

[maitai69691]

i was jsut haveing the same prob to day going to go try it tommorow thatnk to all for all the info

[JBlaze357]

I had that samme problem and I just wond up bypassing the antitheft module completly!