CT26 rebuilds and upgrades!

[bigaaron]

We offer a CT26 upgrade service. The cost is $510 for a full rebuild and upgrade to a 50, 54, or 57 trim. The turbo is balanced before the final assembly. We do not do 60 trim or 60-1 upgrades because of reliability issues, not because we can't, but because we don't recommend it. You can make well over 400whp on a 57 trim CT26. I made 370whp/395tq on a 50 trim CT26, and the spool was fast.

When you ship me a turbo for rebuild, put ALL your info on a piece of paper in the box!!!! Even more important, package the turbo properly! The last few items people shipped, the boxes looked like they were in a hurricane! Newspaper is not a suitable packing material for a turbo. Wrap it in multiple layers of cardboard if you don't have anything else. Assume that the item will be dropped at least once from about 4ft onto concrete, and package it accordingly!!!
Please remove the coolant lines and oil feed/return pipe before shipping.

[swaq]

What sort of power could one expect from a 54 trim? Would 400 rwhp be obtainable? I assume a 54 trim would spool faster than a 57?

[bigaaron]

I think 400whp would be possible with a 54 trim. I would guess it would do it at about 18psi.

[swaq]

Okay thanks, I think this will be the route I take eventually.

[bigaaron]

If you want to make it look super nice we can have the exhaust housing ceramic coated for an additional $80, and to polish the compressor housing it's $55.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/onebad7m/Victor%207M/th_03_10_07030.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/onebad7m/Victor%207M/03_10_07030.jpg)

[SupraStorm1080]

Hey bigaaron, is there a deal for local drop off and pickup?:biglaugh:

[bigaaron]

Depends on if you drop off lunch with the turbo or not. :icon_wink

[SupraStorm1080]

haha, if you give me a good deal ill bring some filet mignon.:naughty: At what Rpm does the 54 trim usually spool vs. the 57 trim?

[emission]

Intrested! Aaron do you offer ceramic coated exhaust manis too? :icon_bigg

[GrimJack]

How about a guess on cost to take a CT26 that's been upgraded to a 60-1 then run until it started the death whine... and turn it into a working 57 trim?

[bigaaron]

You can't go smaller, only bigger. Once the front housing is machined to accept the 60-1, you can't go back. To rebuild it and stay 60-1 would be about $50 less then a 57 trim upgrade, as long as there is not a huge amount of shaft play now, which in some cases makes the turbo un-rebuildable. If it is really bad you may want to just start with another turbo.

[GrimJack]

I figured I'd have to buy a new compressor housing, but that shouldn't be too tough, just find a dead CT with huge hot side cracks...

[Sawbladz]

Does this service include clipping of the exhaust wheel? Would you recommend a clip? Would there be a noticeable difference in spool time/useable RPM with a non-clipped 57 vs. a clipped 57?

[bigaaron]

From my experience it's better off without an exhaust clip, but the price is the same either way.

[yotaracer28]

We offer a CT26 upgrade service. The cost is $510 including the return shipping (in the US only) for a full rebuild and upgrade to a 50, 54, or 57 trim. The turbo is balanced before the final assembly. We do not do 60 trim or 60-1 upgrades because of reliability issues, not because we can't, but because we don't recommend it. You can make well over 400whp on a 57 trim CT26. I made 370whp/395tq on a 50 trim CT26, and the spool was fast.

would you be willing to do this on a all-trac ct26?

[bigaaron]

would you be willing to do this on a all-trac ct26?

Yes, should be the same price.

[gtsfirefighter]

Which is the most reliable upgrade? I'm not looking for BIG HP gains, just maybe a little better than stock. Also, is there any external modifications requiring different oil and coolant hook ups? Is it plug n play is what I'm asking I guess.
Thanks

[supramic]

hey what would be the quickest spooling ( the 50, 54, 0r 57) and is it posible to get a ceramic wheel or an fluid/ ball bearing combo ???

doesn't cliping creat lag, but is beter for top end ?? sorry for all the questions

[bigaaron]

I don't usually have them clipped anymore, it doesn't seem to make much difference. 50 trim spools a tiny bit faster, but looses some horsepower capability.

57 trim unclipped is the hot setup in my opinion.

[Erkenz]

I've run a 57 trim on my 7m and liked it alot. What would the difference be on my 1jz? Being a smaller engine... Have you experimented with a 57 trim on a 1jz yet Aaron?

[bigaaron]

Tim's is a 57 trim, that's what I would run.

[supramike7m]

how much boost did it take to make 370 whp on a 50 trim arron? and what else was done to your engine?

[bigaaron]

That was at about 20psi. With a 57 trim I know it would have been 400whp, because when I slapped the gt4082 on the same engine it made 421whp at 17psi.

[dugums]

I want to get my turbo rebuilt with the 57 trim, but didn't see instructions on your website on how to order/where to send?

Please let me know the procedure, the turbo is off the car and ready to send.

I also had a couple of Q's:

1. Turnaround Time.

2. Do you happen to have any good units there you could send me? I could pay a core charge of some sort?

Thanks!

[bigaaron]

I don't do a core exchange because I have had people send turbos before that were so trashed they were not rebuiladble. If there is really excessive shaft play, sometimes the center section needs to be replaced. Or if there is a large crack in the exhaust housing, it needs to be replaced.
That doesn't happen often, but it can happen.

Send the turbo to the address on my website, put your return address, email, and phone number in the box. I have the turbo inspected before the rebuild is done, and if there is a major problem I will call you first. When it is done I will bill you and ship it out. It's about a week turnaround time from when I receive it until it ships out to you.

[BJ91T]

hey aaron its bj i spoke with you on the phone about the 1.5jz swap for a while. well anyway i have 2 options to pick from for my daily driven 7m supra

1.get your 57 trim ct for 510 plus the bling options
2. get my buddys turbonetics 62-1 that has 2500 miles on it for 800 with coolant lines and turbo only.

what will i be more happy with you think in the long run for both relability and fun/pull factor

here is my setup 91 7m stock rebuild cometic 2.0mm mhg arp studs bic DDP or cooleze megamouth i have both and switch alot emanage blue and soon to have lex and 550's

I am just confused as to which way to go so hopfully you can give me some advice


thanks in advance
BJ

[7MsuprO]

That was at about 20psi. With a 57 trim I know it would have been 400whp, because when I slapped the gt4082 on the same engine it made 421whp at 17psi.

Werent you still on the stock elbow with the 50 trim too?

[bigaaron]

hey aaron its bj i spoke with you on the phone about the 1.5jz swap for a while. well anyway i have 2 options to pick from for my daily driven 7m supra

1.get your 57 trim ct for 510 plus the bling options
2. get my buddys turbonetics 62-1 that has 2500 miles on it for 800 with coolant lines and turbo only.

what will i be more happy with you think in the long run for both relability and fun/pull factor

here is my setup 91 7m stock rebuild cometic 2.0mm mhg arp studs bic DDP or cooleze megamouth i have both and switch alot emanage blue and soon to have lex and 550's

I am just confused as to which way to go so hopfully you can give me some advice


thanks in advance
BJ

The Turbonetics 62-1 unfortunately surged on my 7m. I had one myself, and at first it seemed ok. But once the boost was increased it started surging on the dyno. So I don't mean to ruin his sale, but I think you will be underwhelmed with that 62-1. Plus, when you go t4, there are a whole lot more parts and costs involved other then the turbo. It is going to make more power with a big turbo on it, but unless you have ALL the supporting mods to go with it, you might just end up with the same power you would have with a ct26, but with a lot more lag.

As far as bang for the buck goes, an upgraded ct26 is hard to beat. The spool and reliability are excellent. As long as you don't want to go over 400whp or possibly slightly more, I would stick with the ct26.

[bigaaron]

Werent you still on the stock elbow with the 50 trim too?

I did have a Suprasport elbow, but it had the stock 2.5" downpipe flange still welded on the 3" exhaust, so it was restricting it for sure.

[foreverpsycotic]

would a 54 trim be able to out-do 440s at say...15 lbs? im going to be using some speed density based piggyback if that helps and am looking for somewhere in the 300-350 range.

[bigaaron]

With proper tuning the 440cc injectors can do around 400whp. 300-350 should not be a problem. Although, when you approach 400whp, you really want a little bit more of a safety margin. 550cc injectors are a good idea for that kind of power, and you will be able to run more boost before you hit fuel cut because the afm signal will be scaled back more with bigger injectors. I was running 550cc's with a maft pro and I was able to run over 20psi with no fuel cut and had no problem with maxing out the injector duty.

[dugums]

I will be sending out the turbo tomorrow am. Please let me know if you got my PM.

[DDR_Man70]

im going to send my turbo off early next month to get rebuilt and was wondering if i should upgrade to a 50 trim or something. im not planning on keeping the 7M in the long run but i at least want something out of it. im probably gonna have the 7M for a little over a year. i want to know whether or not to even get it upgraded. thanks.

[bigaaron]

A basic rebuild is only about $50 less then an upgrade, so you might as well go with a 50 trim. It will make a little more power even at stock boost. I liked my 50 trim a lot.

[DDR_Man70]

cool... i now know which way im going. thanks.

[poon]

pmd :)

[foreverpsycotic]

you will be getting a call from me in about a month and a half, when i have enough money to get the 54 trim, IC, piping and BOV adaptor.

[foreverpsycotic]

any clue when a 54 trim would kick in, and if it will pull till redline? im na-t and was hoping for a spool somewhere around 2.5-3k and would pull all the way to 6.5k, does this seem unreasonable with a 54 trim?

[bigaaron]

I recommend 57 trim, the spool will be virtually the same, but you will be able to make more horsepower.

[foreverpsycotic]

dont need to twist my arm into making more power at the sameish spool :)

[TheAmazingDave]

I want to get my spare CT26 upgraded, but I have a question first. Will an upgraded turbo hit fuel cut at a lower boost pressure since it is moving more air?

[bigaaron]

Possibly yes, but that would mean you were making more power at lower boost, which is what you really want. The goal is to make more horsepower, not just to run more boost.

[TheAmazingDave]

I understand that, but I wonder if it is worth upgrading the turbo if I keep the stock ECU system. Right now I hit the cut right after 10 PSI. If I'm lucky, it will push about 11 then cut on a warm system.

[7MsuprO]

An upgraded STOCK turbo isn't such a big change to warrant ditching the stock ecu...thats fine. If you're hitting fuel cut at 10-11psi, something is most likely wrong.

[dav_dman]

i thought fuel cut at 10-11psi on stock setup was normal.


thought you had to go lex/550's to hit it at 20.

[bigaaron]

A boost leak will cause the fuel cut to happen at lower boost levels, you might want to check that out.

[Adrian98]

got boost leak? get a bigger turbo to compensate!

[kemicalx]

first off, thanks heaps Aaron for all the info in this thread it has a lot of useful stuff on upgrading ct26's that I've been hunting down for a while now,

So you're absolutely confident that a 57 trim ct26 will be capable of 300-315rwkw (400-420rwhp) with the required supporting mods. I'll be running a 3" core intercooler, standalone management, 3" exhaust system, bigger fuel pump and probably bigger injectors.

Do you (or anyone for that matter) have any dyno sheets with 57trim ct26 equipped 7M's?

Also, could anyone get a hold of a compressor map for a 57trim ct26?? i presume it might be a bit tricky though.

Cheers,
Ash.

[dugums]

Aaron,

A big thank you for all of your help! I got the turbo and manifold back and everything looks great.

I couldn't find a good description of what sort of preparation was recommended to "prime" the turbo - if there is such a thing. Is anything recommended other than cranking without spark a few times?

I think this would be good information for the thread - also, if my search skills suck, and I missed where this is already posted - a link would be great!

[bigaaron]

Cool! Yes you should crank the engine with the efi fuse pulled for long enough until you get oil pressure.

[dugums]

Cool! Yes you should crank the engine with the efi fuse pulled for long enough until you get oil pressure.

Thanks! More $$$ comin' your way, lol

[89turbotoy]

how much boost where you pushin on th 50 trim to make 370hp?

[bigaaron]

how much boost where you pushin on th 50 trim to make 370hp?

About 20psi.

[Poodles]

this is covered in the TSRM, and it's a good idea to follow it...
http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/TSRM/MK3/TC/TC_004.gif

[IwantMKIII]

This might have been answered already but do you guys use the garret GT wheel for the 57 trim? or is it an option, if at all?

[Adrian98]

do you recommend 50 or stock size for MR2 ct26s?

[bigaaron]

I would think 50 trim would be better for an MR2.

[bigaaron]

This might have been answered already but do you guys use the garret GT wheel for the 57 trim? or is it an option, if at all?

The compressor wheel we use is a Garrett part, but it's not specifically a GT.

[rocktownmkIII]

i making sure i read this right but the stock turbo can be rebuilt and upgraded for only 510$ that sounds very cheap if thats true im going ship mine to get rebuilt in the next few weeks after i get my bhg repaired

[bigaaron]

i making sure i read this right but the stock turbo can be rebuilt and upgraded for only 510$ that sounds very cheap if thats true im going ship mine to get rebuilt in the next few weeks after i get my bhg repaired

Yes, that price includes the return shipping also.

[zildjian_zach]

Got my 57-trim w/ ceramic coat last night... Love it! Thanks again Aaron!

[dugums]

Got my 57-trim w/ ceramic coat last night... Love it! Thanks again Aaron!

Nice... I got mine with a black ceramic coating - I really like the way yours looks though!

[bigaaron]

Sweet! Thanks guys!

[JASONA70]

hey aaron i might be jumping on this very soon! a 57 trim + ceramic coated compressor housing and the ct26 kit for the 1j. how long will the upgrade aprox. take?

[bigaaron]

It's usually 3-4 business day turnaround without coatings, and about 7-8 business days with coatings. Ceramic coating on the exhaust housing is $80. Polishing is also available on the compressor housing for $55.

[HIDPLANET]

Very cool pics.
How much would the above (what SSK asked about) cost approx? (installed)

[bigaaron]

Manifold kit is $325, turbo upgrade is $510 (minus shipping cost for locals),
custom intake would run $30-$80 depending on filter type, around $300 for labor (removing twins in-car is a pita), then you just need a 7m downpipe.

[fstlane88]

Aaron, since you guys have the ability to coat turbos I'm assuming you could coat the manifold in the 1JZ CT kit right? How much would that run, just a ballpark if you're not sure?

[HIDPLANET]

Still a very fair price.
I had stuff (non car stuff) prepped and coated and they cost from 150+ and were not as complex as a mani.

[zildjian_zach]

Hey Aaron, what kinda $$$ to ceramic coat the stock exhaust mani?

[bigaaron]

Because of the large size and all the prep needed to do the inside and outside of the manifold, it's $155.

[cheverlot]

can you upgrade a ct26 with ball bearings also if i put a 60:1 compressor and run it at stock boost pressure what kind of upgrade would I have to have?

[bigaaron]

can you upgrade a ct26 with ball bearings also if i put a 60:1 compressor and run it at stock boost pressure what kind of upgrade would I have to have?

I don't recommend 60-1, and we don't offer ball bearing ct26 upgrades. I think Jon at MDC Motorsports was working on getting ball bearings that would work with a ct26, but I don't know if he is offering it quite yet. Hit him up, he's here on SM. The problem we have experienced with the 60-1 is that it is too big for the size of the ct26 shaft, which causes premature failure of the turbo. I would recommend 57 trim as the best all around upgrade for power vs reliability. 400whp+ is possible with a 57 trim ct26.

[OfnaRcR4]

I know this is a dumb question, but what kind of condition does the turbo have to be in? I'm thinking of sending mine in for a 57 trim.

[bigaaron]

About 8 out of 10 turbos don't require anything other then the normal rebuild/upgrade. The ones that have enough shaft play for the exhaust wheel to hit the housing require a new exhaust wheel/shaft which costs $100 extra.
Before any work is done the turbo is inspected, and if there will be any additional parts needed the customer is called to let them make the decision.

[OfnaRcR4]

About 8 out of 10 turbos don't require anything other then the normal rebuild/upgrade. The ones that have enough shaft play for the exhaust wheel to hit the housing require a new exhaust wheel/shaft which costs $100 extra.
Before any work is done the turbo is inspected, and if there will be any additional parts needed the customer is called to let them make the decision.

Okay, i am pretty sure i will send you my turbo sometime within the next 2 months hopefully:icon_bigg

[cheverlot]

ok if i go with a 57 what kind of upgrade a stock boost

[JASONA70]

ok if i go with a 57 what kind of upgrade a stock boost

?? ??? ??? ?? ???? ?? ??? ?? ? ? do you mean if you went with a 57 trim, what amount of psi would it take to make stock hp? why would you want stock hp on a 57 trim! :evil2:

[bigaaron]

ok if i go with a 57 what kind of upgrade a stock boost

It will make a little more hp even with a stock setup. The real gains will be realized with all the supporting mods like intake, exhaust, intercooler, etc...

[cheverlot]

no I know it will make more hp can i put a 57 trim on with out doing mods or do I have to get a fuel computer or want do I have to do to the car I have hard pipes and I have the boost a 12 psi I was wanting to put the 57 trim on

[bigaaron]

You can bolt it on with no other mods.

[cheverlot]

ok I did not want to run my car lean and blow it up

[OfnaRcR4]

Just another dumb question.
On my setup, wich i understand you guys built most of(rebuild, ic pipes, spearco rep) and 3 inch exhaust without elbow, what would i expect in response and power if i just threw the 57 on without doing anything. Would the difference be much, or do you have to up the boost to see some real difference? I probally peak at 9-10lbs now.
Thx.

[bigaaron]

You will have more power even at stock boost. Add a super afc and some dyno tuning and you should be making over 300whp at 12psi, just under fuel cut.

[JASONA70]

will we need a ct26 elbows for the 1jz setup??

edit: i saw pictures, looks like we do.

[Poodles]

or a downpipe that gets rid of it...

[JASONA70]

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o235/SuperSupraKid/57%20trim/P9060288.jpg

:love:

[2543arvin]

Just placed an order for the ceramic coated 57 trim w/ polished comp housing along with the ss oil lines........:evil2: cant wait!

[OfnaRcR4]

Just placed an order for the ceramic coated 57 trim w/ polished comp housing along with the ss oil lines........:evil2: cant wait!

Yeah, i would have mine sent by now but i cant get that damn oil line off haha.

[bigunitpitcher22]

What's the safest upgrade for a stock ct26 with no supporting mods on the engine?

Just out of curiosity.

[bigaaron]

If you don't plan on going for more then about 375whp, 50 trim will spool a little faster then a 57 trim.

[johnathan1]

Here is my 57 trim rebuild...It looks amazing! Thanks Aaron!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/johnathan1/IMG_4418.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/johnathan1/IMG_4420.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/johnathan1/IMG_4421.jpg

[johnathan1]

You will have more power even at stock boost. Add a super afc and some dyno tuning and you should be making over 300whp at 12psi, just under fuel cut.

So I could make 300WHP with my 57trim with just an S-AFC? (Only other mods being intake, and 3in exhaust)

[bigaaron]

I would guess you were making about 300whp right now the way it is.

[johnathan1]

I would guess you were making about 300whp right now the way it is.

:aigo: WOW...well, only the dyno will tell! :evil2:

[2543arvin]

I cant wait to post up a pic of my 57 trim when I get it back.....SS oil lines and the BLING package!

Or maybe Aaron could post it up for me before he mails it out....just to keep me on my toes!:naughty:

[OfnaRcR4]

Yeah, i sent mine out today. :icon_razz

[OfnaRcR4]

Definetly a good product. I was suprised to see that it came back looking totally different.

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/3250/dscf1628to0.jpg

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/6873/0057ky2.jpg

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[Sl1dewaysSupra]

We offer a CT26 upgrade service. The cost is $510 including the return shipping (in the US only) for a full rebuild and upgrade to a 50, 54, or 57 trim. The turbo is balanced before the final assembly. We do not do 60 trim or 60-1 upgrades because of reliability issues, not because we can't, but because we don't recommend it. You can make well over 400whp on a 57 trim CT26. I made 370whp/395tq on a 50 trim CT26, and the spool was fast.



Would the cost be any lower if we do a stock rebuild?

[kyle1jzsupra]

sounds like u guys are celebs now 510 bux shipped done rebuilt and everything sounds like superman is building this shit ........im gunna send u guys mine but say i painted the exhaust housing and the compressor housing myself with high heat paint would u guys charge me extra to remove it if i were to choose the bling package lol?

[johnathan1]

I would guess you were making about 300whp right now the way it is.

You were right! It dyno'ed at 293rwhp! :)

[IwantMKIII]

My ct is in excellent condition but im looking for more. I don't have enough $$ for new turbo+mani+all the other stuff so im looking for 57 trim as i have for awhile. I like your price and options, my question is are you using the 57GT wheel yet???

If so, have you seen any improvements in power with it vs normal 57trim. I'm curious cause i wanna beat the other 57trim numbers out there :)

I nearly beat a 2000 'vette with headers back, intake, ecu flash, ecu controller the other night from a dig (no he was by no means a bad driver, i know the guy personally) on the stock turbo at only 11-12PSI so i must be outputting some damn good numbers for my lil ct.....i want more

[billwert]

bigaaron, How much of a spool difference did you notice when you took off the 50trim and put on the GT4082? Was it marginal?

[bigaaron]

The gt4082 is a great turbo for a 7m, it's not laggy at all.

[billwert]

That's good to hear that is the direction I'm thinking about going. Thanks Bill.

[james_9876]

Lil Annoying Question :biglaugh:

So I can upgrade to a 57trim, leave the wastegate alone and It will put out the stock 8psi right? Only when I get a MBC (or EBC) do I reach the higher PSI's right?

Thanks for the info, and probably a year down the road for my turbo.

[2543arvin]

Lil Annoying Question :biglaugh:

So I can upgrade to a 57trim, leave the wastegate alone and It will put out the stock 8psi right? Only when I get a MBC (or EBC) do I reach the higher PSI's right?

Thanks for the info, and probably a year down the road for my turbo.


Thats right boost will remain the same, but it will flow much more.

[james_9876]

Awesome, Thank you for the quick reply man. Just wanted to make sure before I decided anything. This is definantly going on THE LIST of upgrades. :naughty:

[Kai]

Aaron - as MDC aren't going to be doing these anymore, and as i cant find anyone in the UK that'll do this for a sane amount of money (TT want £700/$1400 for it), how much would the cost be for a 57 trim? :)

[bigaaron]

Picked up FOUR fresh 57 trim turbos today, one is sold, three available now!
$625ea shipped in the US, $710ea shipped to the UK.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/BigAaron/driftmotion/SANY0195.jpg

[85supraturbo]

do you have any upgraded ct26 57 trim instock? my car is a daily driver dont have the down time, let me know.

[bigaaron]

I have 57 trims in stock ready to ship! :aigo:

[4U2QUIK]

hey aaron I have a ct26 that's already been modified to 57 trim (I believe). It needs a new shaft, and bushings ect. because the shaft mysteriously got bent. I went ahead and dissasembled the turbo and it still looks to be in decent shape. (I'm an inspector at a iso 9000 machine shop) How much would it be to have this turbo rebuilt and balanced?

[bigaaron]

hey aaron I have a ct26 that's already been modified to 57 trim (I believe). It needs a new shaft, and bushings ect. because the shaft mysteriously got bent. I went ahead and dissasembled the turbo and it still looks to be in decent shape. (I'm an inspector at a iso 9000 machine shop) How much would it be to have this turbo rebuilt and balanced?

It does cost extra if the shaft or exhaust wheel is damaged, I can give you an estimate after it is inspected on our end. I would estimate it would make the price come out to about $600 for the rebuild with a replacement shaft.

[oldfastpat]

This was rebuilt before i bought car in july of 07. Oversize Bearings,minor rebuild. Balanced. It has maybe 2500 mile on it Piston cracked and we rebuilt engine. With your probe pistons thank you. after about 1000 miles and second oil change I noticed oil got dirty and we lost boost. Oil in intake, Intercooler,Etc. # 1 ? what turbo is this and should we rebuild or buy 57 trim outright? and how long to get? core charge?

[4U2QUIK]

It does cost extra if the shaft or exhaust wheel is damaged, I can give you an estimate after it is inspected on our end. I would estimate it would make the price come out to about $600 for the rebuild with a replacement shaft.

might as well pick up one of your 57's when I get my relief check in july.
thanks.

[bigaaron]

This was rebuilt before i bought car in july of 07. Oversize Bearings,minor rebuild. Balanced. It has maybe 2500 mile on it Piston cracked and we rebuilt engine. With your probe pistons thank you. after about 1000 miles and second oil change I noticed oil got dirty and we lost boost. Oil in intake, Intercooler,Etc. # 1 ? what turbo is this and should we rebuild or buy 57 trim outright? and how long to get? core charge?

Looks like a 60 trim?

[87witmoreboost]

I know it's posted somewhere, but not in this thread as I went through it and a quick search left me dry.

How much to rebuild a 57 trim? (to 57 trim)

[slidebabyslide]

i Know It's Posted Somewhere, But Not In This Thread As I Went Through It And A Quick Search Left Me Dry.

How Much To Rebuild A 57 Trim? (to 57 Trim)

510
it's on the first post.

[87witmoreboost]

510
it's on the first post.

Wrong.

It states it's $510 to rebuild and trim UP to 50,54,57, but that requires boring the housing. A 57 trim rebuild should be new bearings and seals.

[bigaaron]

To rebuild a 57 trim is about $60-$80 less then upgrading a stock turbo. It's still almost the same amount of work and parts, the only difference is not having to bore the housing and possibly not needing a new compressor wheel. They usualy put a new compressor wheel on it though.

[audioman81]

Picked up FOUR fresh 57 trim turbos today, one is sold, three available now!
$625ea shipped in the US, $710ea shipped to the UK.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/BigAaron/driftmotion/SANY0195.jpg

do you have custom or stailness oil and coolant lines for these?

[bigaaron]

We do have a new line kit in the works that will use a new billet ARZ Performance ct26 oil drain/feed flange.

[VooDoo]

Just when I think have made my mind up on the 60-1 now I am thinking about the 57. I just really have my heart on 400 rwhp. I have a lex/550, walbro 255, afpr, afc neo, aem uego, 2.5 hardpipe I/C, MHG, full custom turbo back exhaust no cats or resonators. motor is on the stand now finishing some final additions to help support my goals. Final tuning will be done by someone who is experienced but I don't want to be let down or regret my decision. If you think this is reasonable goal with the 57 trim I will send one of my ct off next week.

[audioman81]

We do have a new line kit in the works that will use a new billet ARZ Performance ct26 oil drain/feed flange.

any idea on when this will be ready?

If it will be sometime this year yet, I'd like to buy a 57 trim and lines at the same time and save on some shipping and the need to remove the new turbo after its already installed.

[VooDoo]

Guess I will go with the 60-1. HOWEVER I will be interested in the new line kit when it is out.

[TheNewRed]

Hey Aaron, im making a HUGE parts list for driftmotion, and i wanted to know if sending you my turbo would be cheaper then buying one of your $625 pre-built units that are available on the website? Mine only has a bit of shaft play and i ran until i pulled the motor, its never been over stock pressures, so its in ok shape(dont know if it makes a difference in the rebuild). O and one more question, the soft line kit on the site, can it be used with the 7mgte, and it's pre-existing ports, or is it 7mge only?

[Van]

Try this site: http://www.not2fast.com/turbo/glossary/turbo_calc.shtml?FeetASL=60&Tamb=21&Bore=83&Stroke=91&nCyl=6&RPM=5250&VE=100&Boost=10.5&Ec=78&Eic=70&PdropIC=3.0&TambIC=21&wiPercentMethanol=50&wiRate=100&wiTemp=21&SFC=0.50&AFR=12.5&maxInjectorDutyCycle=80

first off, thanks heaps Aaron for all the info in this thread it has a lot of useful stuff on upgrading ct26's that I've been hunting down for a while now,

So you're absolutely confident that a 57 trim ct26 will be capable of 300-315rwkw (400-420rwhp) with the required supporting mods. I'll be running a 3" core intercooler, standalone management, 3" exhaust system, bigger fuel pump and probably bigger injectors.

Do you (or anyone for that matter) have any dyno sheets with 57trim ct26 equipped 7M's?

Also, could anyone get a hold of a compressor map for a 57trim ct26?? i presume it might be a bit tricky though.

Cheers,
Ash.

[bigaaron]

It's $510 if you send us your turbo to be upgraded, so that will save you some money over buying one outright.

[IwantMKIII]

You still never got back to me about that GT wheel ;) . Either way, if i sent in a turbo to rebuild and had an extra core, would you be willing to subtract cost of rebuild for value of the extra core for you to have? If so, how much is a core worth to you? (assuming rebuildable of course). BTW, is there any tell tale signs of a turbo NOT being rebuildable?

[TheNewRed]

It's $510 if you send us your turbo to be upgraded, so that will save you some money over buying one outright.

Thanks aaron, you will be recieving a very large order within the week!

[Malloy]

Hey guys,

I want maximum spool and 300whp is my current target. 57trim seems to be very popular and capable of much more than 300whp, however I want the quickest possible spool. I already have 3" turbo back with DDP.

Does the 50trim spool that much quicker than the 57?

Thanks!
Mike

[OfnaRcR4]

I don't think it would be a noticable difference. I would just go with the 57 trim. 300 whp and quick spool is easy with it. Specially with a ddp.

[BrandonW]

i believe they do a 54 trim

but at that point you might as well do the 57 trim

[Malloy]

i believe they do a 54 trim

but at that point you might as well do the 57 trim

Thanks. Is it safe to say that both the 54 and 57 trim spool at the same RPM? (same vehicle etc) I'm really enjoying the response now with the DDP and 3" system.

[swapinthedark]

I prob should have searched a bit more here, but I didn't find any info about this on other sites..


I have a 1JZ vvt-i with the ct15b (sometimes called ct20?). I know my turbo is a similar size and supposedly a similar turbo all around to the ct-26.... Can my turbo be high flowed by you guys in a similar manner???


I love the way my engine bay looks now, and honestly dont have the $ to go refabbing a bunch of piping or making/finding a manifold for this thing....hi-flowing mine sounds like the heaven sent solution.



Ps. I see on forums in other countries that these turbos are being hi-flowed, so that gives me even more hope.

[bigaaron]

haha, what a coincidence! :biglaugh:
I am putting a VVTi 1JZ in a MK3 Supra with a EMS 6860 Standalone right now! I was looking at the stock turbo and wondering what we could do with it, maybe a CT15/CT26 Frankenstein turbo.... Or possibly just upgrade it like we do with a CT26. Send me yours and we will check it out free of charge and see what all can be done, and we'll give you a quote and all the options before any work is done. I will get it done asap when I receive it, to get you back on the road as quickly as possible. Interested? Call me at 909-630-8969

I'll also let the cat out of the bag on a new turbo we are going to have available.
It's a 57 trim T4 turbo, with a .58AR divided housing. It's going to be our 1JZ Drift turbo, for people who drift or race small tracks (solo2), with faster spool for around 400whp. We could possibly make an adapter manifold for your VVTi 1jz to accept a standard size T4 turbo like ours.

[swapinthedark]

Beautiful!

I have two more drift events (one this weekend, and one week end after next) before I take the car apart for the winter to spruce it back up (this season has been a drive and never fix ANYTHING season so it's rough). As soon as we start taking it apart to do the clutch and all, I will pop the turbo off and send it your way for a look see.

Your drifty T4 deal sounds tempting, but I just like factory bolt on stuff with no oil/water line trickery and I would HATE to have to build/mod another down pipe to go around this damn steering shaft.


Thank you much sir!


Ps. If you feel like answering a kinda dumb hypothetical question.... What kind of spool do you think I would get with a high flowed stocker? I get full spool of 12-13ish lbs at around 2500rpms now. If I am not doing much modding to the factory management, do you think the lil vvt-i motor could spool a 57 trim hi-flow at or around 3k rpms????

[bigaaron]

I have been doing some research on the VVTi 1jz. It looks like the higher compression over a standard 1jz should be good for the upgrade, with a minimal sacrifice in spool rpm.

[Pernilongo]

I prob should have searched a bit more here, but I didn't find any info about this on other sites..


I have a 1JZ vvt-i with the ct15b (sometimes called ct20?). I know my turbo is a similar size and supposedly a similar turbo all around to the ct-26.... Can my turbo be high flowed by you guys in a similar manner???


I love the way my engine bay looks now, and honestly dont have the $ to go refabbing a bunch of piping or making/finding a manifold for this thing....hi-flowing mine sounds like the heaven sent solution.



Ps. I see on forums in other countries that these turbos are being hi-flowed, so that gives me even more hope.

Why do you want to upgrade your turbo? what kind of concerns do you have about it? And stock JZX100 is commonly upgraded with ct26 steel wheel whats for sure. I just don't see what is the point for right now. heres some links about ct20 what i could find. http://autospeed.com/cms/A_2247/article.html http://www.3sgte.com/1JZGTE.htm.

[bigaaron]

I'm pretty sure that article about used turbos has a misprint, the 1jz vvti turbo is a CT15b.

The CT20 came on the 22R-TE 4Runner and truck, it flows terribly and makes miserably low horsepower with crappy gas mileage.

[Pernilongo]

I'm pretty sure that article about used turbos has a misprint, the 1jz vvti turbo is a CT15b.

The CT20 came on the 22R-TE 4Runner and truck, it flows terribly and makes miserably low horsepower with crappy gas mileage.

Yeah it's wrong. sorry.

[swapinthedark]

I have read all the links you posted while I was doing my swap. I do not understand why you think I need to keep the stock ct-15b and not mod it.

I NEED a substantial increase in HP...not huge single hp, but a decent amount more than the 250ish whp I have now, or the 290ish whp I feel could prob squeeze out of this turbo in stock form.

If you have seen reliable 350whp vvti 1Js on stock turbos, I will go back to the drawing board and try to tune my way there.

I will start looking for threads on JZX100 forums and aussie forums about ct-26 stuff going into this turbo now that you mentioned it.

I still think ugrading this thing is a good idea, but I may try and find a spare turbo to do the work to now that I think about how much the turbo's stock design characteristics could be helping me get this great spool time. That way if I hate the hi-flo, I can sell it and go back to this turbo...

I will call driftmotion next week and see what bigaaron thinks is the best plan.

(ps. nothing in this post was meant with ill will. I know I can be a bit dry, sowwy).

[Pernilongo]

I have read all the links you posted while I was doing my swap. I do not understand why you think I need to keep the stock ct-15b and not mod it.

I NEED a substantial increase in HP...not huge single hp, but a decent amount more than the 250ish whp I have now, or the 290ish whp I feel could prob squeeze out of this turbo in stock form.

If you have seen reliable 350whp vvti 1Js on stock turbos, I will go back to the drawing board and try to tune my way there.

I will start looking for threads on JZX100 forums and aussie forums about ct-26 stuff going into this turbo now that you mentioned it.

I still think ugrading this thing is a good idea, but I may try and find a spare turbo to do the work to now that I think about how much the turbo's stock design characteristics could be helping me get this great spool time. That way if I hate the hi-flo, I can sell it and go back to this turbo...

I will call driftmotion next week and see what bigaaron thinks is the best plan.

(ps. nothing in this post was meant with ill will. I know I can be a bit dry, sowwy).

Oh i didn't mean to say that you need to keep stock turbo. I meant for my self because i'm gonna get 1jz vvti myself and i was just saying that i don't see a point to ungrade for me before i even get it and try it. Sorry. I will be going from twin-turbo 1jz to VVTI 1jz single and just wanted to ask if you have any concerns about the single or you can compare it to twins in terms of response. i just don't know anyone who owns a single 1jz vvti.

[swapinthedark]

Ohhhhh.

If all you want is 280ish HP, I cannot IMAGINE a better setup than the stock turbo on this thing.

I would say it feels almost NA, but its better than that, I swear. Theres torque and power right off idle but with a "whoosh" that kinda "scoots" you forward in a way no NA motor can. Response is ofcourse amazing, and wait time at freeway speeds is nill. If my car weighed what a 240sx (2600ish lbs), I would never even mod the thing! I just need more umph to get this 3100+lb behemouth to get onto that limiter in 3rd whle sideways on big tires, LOL.

Some people in my group of drify folks can't understand that it really is a little tuffer drifting with what equates to 3 passengers in the car...:1zhelp:


...end thread jack.

[Pernilongo]

Ohhhhh.

If all you want is 280ish HP, I cannot IMAGINE a better setup than the stock turbo on this thing.

I would say it feels almost NA, but its better than that, I swear. Theres torque and power right off idle but with a "whoosh" that kinda "scoots" you forward in a way no NA motor can. Response is ofcourse amazing, and wait time at freeway speeds is nill. If my car weighed what a 240sx (2600ish lbs), I would never even mod the thing! I just need more umph to get this 3100+lb behemouth to get onto that limiter in 3rd whle sideways on big tires, LOL.

Some people in my group of drify folks can't understand that it really is a little tuffer drifting with what equates to 3 passengers in the car...:1zhelp:


...end thread jack.

Thanks for the info. Hope the upgrade works out for you. i might be next in line. I'm thinking about 450 as a final goal within the next year.

[terror]

hey i was wondering if you could do rebuilds/ upgrades on 1jz turbos, such as the hks t3g kit. thanks

[bigaaron]

hey i was wondering if you could do rebuilds/ upgrades on 1jz turbos, such as the hks t3g kit. thanks

Yes on the HKS turbos, probably no on the 1jz stock turbos. The ceramic exhaust wheel and shaft is too brittle to work with. It's just not worth the money to upgrade or rebuild stock twins imho.

[terror]

how much would this cost and what are the upgrade and other options, thanks

[lewis15498]

Im interested in your 57 trim ct26. Im looking on your website and its $625 without sending a turbo and $510 if i send you a turbo. If my math is correct that makes the core of the turbo $115. So my question is, If I send you 2 ct26s, can i get the 57 trim for $395? That would be much cooler than having an old turbo for a paperweight.

[Bluechulappa]

Good question do you buy spare ct26 turbos so you can rebuild them and sell them out? Cause I have an extra one as well but I plan on having one rebuilt 57 trim either way!

[bigaaron]

We need cores! We pay up to $100 shipped depending on the condition, but we need the wastegate actuator also! Send both and we'll give you a discount of up to $100 on the rebuild.

[Bluechulappa]

Sweet! I will have to check if my spare turbo has wastegate. I think it does!

[IwantMKIII]

do you have any 57trims in stock right now or do you require a core? I have a core but do not have access to it anytime soon unless a friend (GaboonViper85) sends it out for me. If he were to snap some pictures of it ahead of time, would you be able to give an idea of how much value you would give for it?

[tissimo]

We need cores! We pay up to $100 shipped depending on the condition, but we need the wastegate actuator also! Send both and we'll give you a discount of up to $100 on the rebuild.

Excellent!

I need a turbo and have a few extras. I'll round them all up and be in touch!

[queenskid926]

what does 10* clip on the exhaust side help?

[FranklinWaters]

Are you all still upgrading the CT26 for $510? I was thinking about getting my upgraded to a 50 trim.

[charman02]

Hey aaron, with the 57trim you have in stock, how much would it be if I ws to pick it up? And from what it says on the website that core is included, does that mean that you need my old turbo back for the price of $625?

[dav_dman]

Hey aaron, with the 57trim you have in stock, how much would it be if I ws to pick it up? And from what it says on the website that core is included, does that mean that you need my old turbo back for the price of $625?

if you have a core i think the supramania cost is 510. Heckuva deal.

[bigaaron]

The new pricing and info is on the website:

Buy outright:
http://store.driftmotion.com/static/i-57trimct26turbo.php

Upgrade/rebuild your turbo:
http://store.driftmotion.com/static/i-57trimct26upgraderebuild.php

To sell us a turbo, email aaron@driftmotion.com and send it to the address on our website with a note inside that you want to sell us the turbo. Include your name, return address, and phone number!

Thanks!!!

[charman02]

Hey Aaron, I know you have the prices on the website, but from my understanding that's the price with shipping right? What would it be for pick up? And do you have a 57 trim in stock?

[SupraCorwin]

Also a silly question but do you replace the wastegate actuator/rod? I saw the shiny new black one a few posts back didn't know if it costs extra. Previous owner bent mine from over shimming it :3d_frown:

[s7mgte]

i currently have a 60-1 ct 26 that only has like 1000 miles on it and its already broke. The car was burning white smoke out of the exhaust so i checked a few things and there is some nice shaft play on the turbo. im almost positive its that. How much for a rebuild on that?

[bigaaron]

Also a silly question but do you replace the wastegate actuator/rod? I saw the shiny new black one a few posts back didn't know if it costs extra. Previous owner bent mine from over shimming it :3d_frown:

Not a silly question at all! We do test the actuators and make sure they open at the correct pressure. If it acts lazy or doesn't open properly, we replace it with a good used one.

[bigaaron]

i currently have a 60-1 ct 26 that only has like 1000 miles on it and its already broke. The car was burning white smoke out of the exhaust so i checked a few things and there is some nice shaft play on the turbo. im almost positive its that. How much for a rebuild on that?

Sorry to hear that, but stories like this are exactly why we don't offer 60-1 for a ct26. It's just not reliable. I would rather see you buy a 57 trim outright and enjoy a much better lifespan from your turbo! I have one on the shelf ready to ship for $625. LMK!

If you reallllllly want to rebuild your 60-1 again, we would need to inspect it first and see if it's still a good useable core. Send it to the address on my website with a note inside explaining what you want done, and include youe name, return address, and don't forget your phone number!

[Weeves]

Just got my 57 trim CT-26 from Driftmotion today. And HOLY CRAP it looks nice! I don't wanna put it in the car anymore, I want to put it on my shelf to display like a trophy.

Thanks Aaron! Very nice work. The turbo and AFPR made it safely all the way up here to Canada.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/AE86Driver/IMG_3019.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/AE86Driver/IMG_3018.jpg

[BLACKCAT]

What is the maximum recommended daily long term safe boost level for the 57 trim?

[SupraOfDoom]

Need a R154? I need a 57 trim ;).

[87witmoreboost]

Aaron, it looks like the CT2657 price went up on your site - unless that price was always higher than whats listed here on SM. Still $510 with a core to upgrade me to 57?

Also, is there any real data to prove the CT2657GT is worth it? Even some feedback from anyone who has tried both would be appreciated.

[87witmoreboost]

I love this thread and props to Aaron, so here are pics of my new baby:

It's the HKS Sport 57 Trim - bolts directly to the stock manifold and downpipe. Aaron rebuilt my turbo and gave me a VERY fair price and now I have one of coolest bolt on turbos ever made for the 7M.

http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p363/mlf27/DSC05841.jpg

http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p363/mlf27/DSC05842.jpg

http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p363/mlf27/DSC05838.jpg