Need help identifying this

[OfnaRcR4]

Ive noticed something missing in my engine bay but i havn't really though about it. Just curious, what is this?
Not my engine bay
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/6432/originalfyryd8.jpg

[Big Wang Bandit]

ABS unit

[MA70Supra88]

That is the ABS unit

Edit: Kyle is a bastard

[RallySoob]

You want that to be missing!!! Unless you let your girlfirend drive your car...:naughty:

[OfnaRcR4]

That was quick
That is what i was thinking. I don't like abs.
who is kyle?

[johnathan1]

HellsLegion = Kyle

[Big Wang Bandit]

Edit: Kyle is a bastard

:rofl:

Post more you!


Yes, I am Kyle.

[johnathan1]

I see Matt's engine bay.

[chedderknight]

haha, ive wondered what that was for the past 2 years, just been lazy to search.

[YourEnemy]

OfnaRcR4 nice to know there are other people from the dayton area joining on here

[Figit090]

OK WOAH hold up...can someone please tell me why ABS is bad? is it in general or just car-specific for the supra?

i dont see how something that prevents your car from spinning out of control under emergency braking is in the least bit not good...

[johnathan1]

I like having ABS, it has saved my car on several occasions.

[BeachHead]

I think some people just enjoy the feeling of total control of their vehicles.

[Big Wang Bandit]

I need to get mine working again. Fast!

[johnathan1]

FYI, You can completely disable the ABS system by unplugging any one of the Speed sensors...

[kntmikado]

If you do that, you might as well remove it and save some weight/gain some space.

As long as it's working properly I can personally see no reason to disable/remove the ABS. Insurance companies like it, and it's always good to have things like that in a pinch.

[RallySoob]

UH, ABS is Bad... Why? cuz it's making driver inputs for you when you may not want it too. You only want to remove it if your an experienced driver that will drive competitively.
Here's an example:
Your drifting through a corner nicely and it's time to mash the brakes real quick for a weight transition because a turn in the other direction is near. With ABS: your car will flicker the brakes and try to stop with all the traction to the ground; no slippage. Without ABS you smash the brakes and the front end locks up, car's nose dives, and you flick wheel whilst letting off brake;smooth.
ESPECIALLY while trying to manauever your car an any type of slick road conditions like gravel or mud! Your ABS will think all the car is skidding on pavement when in reality your skimming the gravel in need of 'lockup' to bite down to the surface under the gravel that supplies your traction.
Snow is the only exception because it is so slipperey and brake lockup can be your enemy.
I had to disable my ABS in my STi before every race because of my driving style. If you drive much like you do to go to work all the time, then keep your ABS! For the sake of other drivers. because most likely your brain will tell you to slam the brakes and you will lock up all 4 wheels and go into a nasty slide... Gladly, society has become dependent it. Sadly, race enthusiasts are still using it...
-if you have never driven a car w/o ABS and you disable yours, LEARN CAREFULLY

[Mr.PFloyd]

ABS sucks for any weather other then dry. No question. with dry weather and sticky tires going down a long straight and full braking right before a low speed apex at 100 mph, its a good thing to have. And snow = killer for abs. god i hate it in snowy conditions. thats is why i remove the abs unit sensor in winter time, and plug it back in summer for my subaru. edit.(i have good winter tires)

[RallySoob]

ABS sucks for any weather other then dry. No question. with dry weather and sticky tires going down a long straight and full braking right before a low speed apex at 100 mph, its a good thing to have. And snow = killer for abs. god i hate it in snowy conditions. thats is why i remove the abs unit sensor in winter time, and plug it back in summer for my subaru. edit.(i have good winter tires)

I see where your coming from on Dry Weather Racing, but I'm gonna have to say that statements incorrect... Full on race cars are equipped with hi-performance brakes that are power assisted but still no ABS. Hi Performance Street cars like viper,ferrari, lamborghini are equipped with hi performance ABS systems that allow much more slip and have much more complex computer systems that evaluate all sorts of input and not just the driver's input. End result, you get the stopping power of non-abs while it's still there waiting for full lock-up just in case.

Pro: you can literaly feel the tires starting to lock before hand with hi-po racing brakes Con: but you can easily lock them up if you forget to PUMP THE BRAKE.

***Solution: Don't panic and slam on the brakes /or/ use ABS system to compensate for your miscalculations...

--I would use ABS on a road going built Supra for daily driving AND take out the fuse for races and impressing your friends:)

*im at work, just typed that really fast....

[johnathan1]

Yea, I must agree...it works OKAY in a dry pavement situation...but if the ground is wet, it doesn't really do very much, at least not in my experience, the wheels just lock like they would without ABS.

[Figit090]

I see where your coming from on Dry Weather Racing, but I'm gonna have to say that statements incorrect... Full on race cars are equipped with hi-performance brakes that are power assisted but still no ABS. Hi Performance Street cars like viper,ferrari, lamborghini are equipped with hi performance ABS systems that allow much more slip and have much more complex computer systems that evaluate all sorts of input and not just the driver's input. End result, you get the stopping power of non-abs while it's still there waiting for full lock-up just in case.

Pro: you can literaly feel the tires starting to lock before hand with hi-po racing brakes Con: but you can easily lock them up if you forget to PUMP THE BRAKE.

***Solution: Don't panic and slam on the brakes /or/ use ABS system to compensate for your miscalculations...

--I would use ABS on a road going built Supra for daily driving AND take out the fuse for races and impressing your friends:)

*im at work, just typed that really fast....


thats all that i'd use it for. i agree when you have control over your car and you're thinking about racing sure, but i'm sure even competant good drivers can lock it up under certain circumstances, and with abs i think your car will stop quicker...i might be wrong. dont quote me on that part. but yeah...on the road, i think its advantagous...nobody should be doing anything on public roads that would warrant disabling the ABS unless it causes problems in normal driving...like the snow thing....

BTW...what's wrong with ABS in the snow? does it keep the brakes from applying much at all? i've only driven in snow/shush ONCE so i'm not too familliar with the best way to stop in snow... i'm thinking maybe the low-grip snow confuses the ABS computer, and really screws with the break power?...

[RallySoob]

I was saying you definately want ABS on snow because its so slick. Without it you are likely going to lock up the brakes every time you press the pedal down. Since there is no traction, the tires never recieve any stoping friction. You can pump all you want, but you can't see or feel your wheel spin so it's only guess work.
SO the ABS pumps the brake for you at a rate of like 10 to Subaru's 60 times per second. It will quit pumping when SOME traction is found. The ABS will do much better than a person could in finding traction on a superslick surface like ICE and most Snow. The computer IS smarter than you in this case only:)
HOW EVER- A rally car would have 100's of 2inch titanium studs that rip through any ice and find traction, thus not needing ABS because now it almost drives like it did on gravel.
-Hope this makes a little sense

[Figit090]

I was saying you definately want ABS on snow because its so slick. Without it you are likely going to lock up the brakes every time you press the pedal down. Since there is no traction, the tires never recieve any stoping friction. You can pump all you want, but you can't see or feel your wheel spin so it's only guess work.
SO the ABS pumps the brake for you at a rate of like 10 to Subaru's 60 times per second. It will quit pumping when SOME traction is found. The ABS will do much better than a person could in finding traction on a superslick surface like ICE and most Snow. The computer IS smarter than you in this case only:)
HOW EVER- A rally car would have 100's of 2inch titanium studs that rip through any ice and find traction, thus not needing ABS because now it almost drives like it did on gravel.
-Hope this makes a little sense


actually i read Cyro-slash's post and thought ABS during winter was somehow bad...contradictory to your explination and what i already knew...i did know most of what you said...and your explination was great, thanks.

[RallySoob]

actually i read Cyro-slash's post and thought ABS during winter was somehow bad...contradictory to your explination and what i already knew...i did know most of what you said...and your explination was great, thanks.

Well thats how I understand it... Seems to be working for me so far. If i had a ice racing tires I would be pulling my ABS in the snow 4Sure:naughty:

[supercharged]

ABS