1JZ Swap? Worth it?

[mkIIIforeverdrifting]

Ok I own a 89 w/ a 7mge N/A that is completely screwed as of recent just fell apart on me, which was expected since i bought the car cheap, now the question is how big of a pain in the butt is it to swap a 1jz into into it considering they were used in the jap version if i'm not mistaken. Also if I do buy get the engine is there any special parts i need to be aware that I'm going to need in addition. if you want to know what comes w/ engine http://www.osakajdmmotors.com/introtoyota.htm Also it appears this engine does not come w/ an intercooler is that something that you have to have w/ a turbo'd engine or just an add on to help it out? I mean I'd get one eventually anyways, but the key thing is would the car be drivable till i could get the money to get an intercooler kit for it? I'll be doing this myself so i constantly be looking on her for tips and all that, but these were questions i needed to know b4 i even started if so it means i'm w/ out a car a lil longer :icon_evil
Thanks in advance

[Clip]

search and you'll find everything you asked for, it's been covered in depth here.

[supra8903]

b4 you ask such a question..... research, and read, and research some more...

and just buy a clip, it will save ya a lot

joe

[mkIIIforeverdrifting]

b4 you ask such a question..... research, and read, and research some more...

and just buy a clip, it will save ya a lot

joe

The only reason I asked b4 doing extensive searchin on forums is b/c i Have to make this purchase today, so I need to know if I can go ahead and get the engine and it work or just buy another 7m-ge N/A to throw in which I rather not do, b/c for me it seems a waste of money but I need to get my car back up and running by the end of next week so I need to have engine on order to get here by mid next week and get in b4 that weekend. So yes normally I would do just like you suggest but I'm short on time, so helpful answers would be appreciated, not just resarch and you'll find. Normally thats what I do for I know these questions have been asked at some point but again don't have the time. Thanks again in advance

[TurboFreak]

I would say hell yeah replace that N/A!! Just make sure you have everything you need to swap it. Is a shop doing the install or are you? A couple days seems like a short deadline to swap an engine and get it running....

[tyler]

http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29117 read the first post in that thread if there is still anything you are un clear of add me to msn or email me at Tylerhillis@gmail.com

[OneJArpus]

pft, read read read read!!! Don't rush it!

[TurboFreak]

pft, read read read read!!! Don't rush it!


The only reason I asked b4 doing extensive searchin on forums is b/c i Have to make this purchase today, so I need to know if I can go ahead and get the engine and it work or just buy another 7m-ge N/A

Basicalley he is asking if it will work....the answer is yes. Haha

[The Reaper]

yes its worth it but if i did it all over again i would wait and save a little bit and go 2J

now that i have EVERYTHING i need....oil pan, harness, ecu, motor mounts, bellhousing trans, my swap to the 2J will be a piece of cake and will hopefully be happening within 2007

[csnow]

I would go with a 2J bottom end. I would probably go with a GE and buy a set of TT pistons or just put a slightly thicker head gasket on it. To buy an entire 2J after having the 1J seems a bit excessive unless you are going to keep the twins. The 2J head does flow better but I think the difference would be marginal with a good single turbo on either the 1.5 or full 2J.

[masterchief819]

Since you're in tn like me, hit up jarcoinc.com (theyre located in canton, ga i think)

Thats where i got my 1jz clip and they have great service. 1j has been running strong with no problems for almost 6 months now :D

[mkIIIforeverdrifting]

Ok well I've ordered the engine and paid the 50bucks for the stock 1jz intercooler now I'm trying to find a place that sells the piping so I can hook the damn thing up, lol. So if anyone knows of someplace that sells piping for intercoolers plz let me know. And I'll post up next week and let yall know how the baby runs :naughty: Also I found a 3" universal but since its piping and not hoses if its so called universal will it fit on possibly smaller hole on the intercooler (sry if its not phrased exactly right). Thanks again for all the help.

[bigaaron]

1jz or 7m threads:
http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...ghlight=1jz+7m
http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...ghlight=1jz+7m
http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...ghlight=1jz+7m
http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...ghlight=1jz+7m
http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...ight=1jz+7mgte
http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...t=7mgte+1jzgte
http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...ighlight=7m+1j
http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...hlight=1j+swap
http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...ghlight=1jzgte
http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...ghlight=1jzgte
http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...ghlight=1jzgte
http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39929

Recent 1jz swaps and related threads:
http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34669
http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...ght=7m+1jz+2jz
http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...ght=7m+1jz+2jz
http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...ght=7m+1jz+2jz
http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29315
http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36090
http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36083
http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34882

[The Reaper]

Why 2j over 1j? They both make the same power on the dyno, just one revvs higher and has more useable power (1jz)

yea you can make the same power but the 2J is a far better platform

1J you will need 28psi to make the same power as the 2J can on 21 22 psi....

its just a far better platform...and after talking to HAMSmkiii 1.5JZ is a joke and it would be smarter to go full 2J rather than 1.5JZ

he said he dropped 3K into his 1J heads and he said it BARELY BARELY BARELY outflows a stock 2J head. how shitty is that????? drop 3K to get to the point where a STOCK head flows on a 1600$ engine set has????? sounds dumb to me..i will go 2J cause i want to go 2J not because people tell me its better its cause i KNOW its better.

and building a 700WHP 1J is WAY more expensive than getting an aristo 2J setup and singling it would cost. cause i can sell my 1J long block, sell the stuff from the engine set that i dont need off and use that money to go single. so its like a singled 2JZ in my car for the price of the stock Aristo motor set on ebay....can't beat that.

i will do the 2J cause its what i want not because everyone else is doing it or whatever.

[The Reaper]

i'll stick to the 2JZ and btw 1.5JZ is NOT a 2JZ head on a 1JZ block its the other way around.....just so you know.

and yes there was proof that the 2J head flowed better.

and an unbalanced engine???? HAMS KNOWS what he is doing it was built properly so i will believe him over you. and seeing darin do 9's on stock longblock says something. 1JZ can't do that. hell the cams can't even flow enough on stock twins how pathetic is THAT?!??! i revved my 1J out to 7K and at 6800 you feel it die BAD i dont see 2J's on stock twins doing that.

and stock 2J cams are a DECENT upgrade for 1J's that should tell you something too.

i will go 2J cause i want to go 2J when some hits 9's on a STOCK long block 1JZ then i'll say its worth it to keep it.

dont get me wrong the 1JZ is a FUN motor it just doesn't flow enough to make HUGE power on lower boost levels.

in all honesty all of these should i or shouldn't i threads are all retarded. do whatever the F**K you want who cares what someone else says??? if you can't research and decided what you want then you shouldn't be doing a swap. If you want to put a 4G63 motor in yur supra by all means do it. why??? CAUSE ITS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO!!!!

[The Reaper]

whatever you say man im not butchering this guys thread anymore..

my statements still stand

along with the do what the f**k you want statement

[crazysupra2JZ]

Engine ( harness+ ECU)...........$2,100.00
Motor Mounts..........................$180.00
Flywheel................................$310.00
Clutch Kit...............................$435.00
1JZ Bellhousing.......................$318.00
2.5" Intercooler Pipes..............$100.00
550cc Inj. and Fuel Rail...........$100.00
Oil Pan and extras..................$550.00
Fuel Pump 255 LPH ................$110.00
T4 Exhaust Manifold...............$160.00
1JZ Flywheel Bolts..................$45.00
Power Steering Hose...............$90.00
AFPR $150.00

this all comes to around $4500 and i'm still not done. i need a bunch of misc items. this is for a 2JZ....lots of money is needed for this swap. i kinda wish i would've done a 1jz or built my 7M...coulda been done by now with my 7M, and making 500 hp

[OneJoeZee]

I dont see a reason to ever go 2jz.

For the cost of a stock 2JZ-GTE swap with JDM crap twins, I was able to build a 1JZ capable of 700whp

Capable of 700... But do you have 700 or the supporting mods to make 700 yet?

I can take a 1J and slap a GT47 on it and say I now have an engine capable of way more hp than it would have cost to swap a 2J. Keep apples to apples. There really is no disputing the fact that a 2J will make more power all things being equal.

Let us know when you get your GT4088 on the dyno. I'm interested to see your results. From your posts, it's sounds like a nice setup but the butt dyno is all relative.

[The Reaper]

Engine ( harness+ ECU)...........$2,100.00
Motor Mounts..........................$180.00
Flywheel................................$310.00
Clutch Kit...............................$435.00
1JZ Bellhousing.......................$318.00
2.5" Intercooler Pipes..............$100.00
550cc Inj. and Fuel Rail...........$100.00
Oil Pan and extras..................$550.00
Fuel Pump 255 LPH ................$110.00
T4 Exhaust Manifold...............$160.00
1JZ Flywheel Bolts..................$45.00
Power Steering Hose...............$90.00
AFPR $150.00

this all comes to around $4500 and i'm still not done. i need a bunch of misc items. this is for a 2JZ....lots of money is needed for this swap. i kinda wish i would've done a 1jz or built my 7M...coulda been done by now with my 7M, and making 500 hp

i can find a 2JZ engine set for 1600 so 1900 shipped prolly

just gotta look and wait.

[crazysupra2JZ]

i found mine for 2100 shipped. came with a tranny but i'm not gonna use it..auto

[crazysupra2JZ]

looks clean. i got my aristo set from japaneseengineimport. fast shipping great communication. very satisfied with their services. i picked up the engine 2 days earlier than i was told i could.

[The Reaper]

good stuff and i 2nd JHOT thats where i got mine from and it is solid except a blown turbo oil seal....owell i was gonna use it as an excuse to go single but ehhh i dont want to single it when im going 2J. so i'll get another set of stock twins for 100 bucks and get ready for the 2J

[Brewster]

don't go 1jz, they suck. researching before you buy is bad idea too.

[The Reaper]

^^^^^ hahahahaha good advice man

[vas85]

Also might have been mentioned, but for what its worth, make sure you open the oil cap, and take a nice look inside to make sure there isn't any sludgy buildup from shit oil use etc.... and also request for a Compression Readout from all the cylinders.:evildeal:

[mkIIIforeverdrifting]

okay ppl got a lil off topic, and what i'm looking for and i've looked through the links and have looked through the forums and can't seem to get a straight answer from them. What I'm looking for at this point is a no bs answer, will the 1jz Motor w/
All required Cables
Automatic transmission
Uncut Wiring Harness Distributor
Complete Intake Manifold
Alternator
ECU
A/C
Power Steering Pump
All Brackets and Sensors
Intecooler
bolt straight in and fire up or do i need a bunch of additional parts. I'm hoping for a yes but if not please give a straight answer list of what misc parts I need to look for to get it up and running. Thanks in advance. As mentioned b4 I just don't have the time to go through every individual forum.

[csnow]

Why 2j over 1j? They both make the same power on the dyno, just one revvs higher and has more useable power (1jz)

I have only seen one or two 1J dynos that shows the same torque curve as a 2J. The 1J makes hp in the upper rpm range, but the torque starts to fall off fast. That is why I want to see these "so called" 700 and 800 hp dynos from "the boys" in South Florida. I am betting there is a 25% to 30% hp to torque ratio difference. The 2J is much closer to a 1:1 match. Torque wins races, no one can argue that.

And yes, I own a 1J and I don't have a single eBay part going on my swap. So don't assume the entire 1J community is using crap parts. That is a rather arrogant assumption on your part and deserving of an apology to the community.

Greddy Manifold
Greddy Type-R Wastegate
Garret GT40
Crower Cams
HKS BOV

Blah Blah Blah

[OneJoeZee]

I have only seen one or two 1J dynos that shows the same torque curve as a 2J. The 1J makes hp in the upper rpm range, but the torque starts to fall off fast. That is why I want to see these "so called" 700 and 800 hp dynos from "the boys" in South Florida. I am betting there is a 25% to 30% hp to torque ratio difference. The 2J is much closer to a 1:1 match. Torque wins races, no one can argue that.


Sure someone can argue that torque wins races... Way too many variables in races to make that statement.

I've beaten many cars that have more torque than me. I'm not really in the mood to delve too far into that arguement though.

and 2Js aren't really all that close to 1:1. Maybe with stock twins or small/mid singles. More torque than a 1J but it's not like a 700hp 2J makes 700ft/lbs. That would take more displacement.

[csnow]

You are right, as the HP increases on both the 1J and 2J, the torque starts to drop. I was implying that the 2J was closer to a 1:1 than a 1J. I will still argue that torque whens races, not horsepower. A modded Supra lined up next to a properly modded 5.0, Vega, or Grand National will get stomped at the track. The highway....well, thats a different story.

But to each his own....

Now, back to the original poster, a 1J, 2J, or a 1.5J is money well spent on a MKIII. Good luck on your swap.

[mkIIIforeverdrifting]

You are right, as the HP increases on both the 1J and 2J, the torque starts to drop. I was implying that the 2J was closer to a 1:1 than a 1J. I will still argue that torque whens races, not horsepower. A modded Supra lined up next to a properly modded 5.0, Vega, or Grand National will get stomped at the track. The highway....well, thats a different story.

But to each his own....

Now, back to the original poster, a 1J, 2J, or a 1.5J is money well spent on a MKIII. Good luck on your swap.

I don't recall saying anyone had ebay parts, or crap parts for that matter, so if you took it that way and were referring to me i do apologize for the miscommunication, and however for the fact I don't have the time at moment to see if the 1jz will work or not so i had to alter my order to just 7mgte a slight upgrade from what i had, but not what i wanted, guess I'll just have to wait now and go all out and throw in the 2jz later on down the road. Though I won't be building it to 700hp anyways for I'm setting my supra up for drifting anyways so have a super massive powerhouse is not entirely necissary. Though if any more ppl can verify w/ the parts listed in my previous post that come w/ the engine itself and tell me if that will do it and no additional parts are needed then I may wind up w/ a 1jz after all. I have till 9pm/central time to decide so I beg of yall, and it may be my fault for how i worded the thread, no more discussion of which engine is better and answer the one question I have truly yet get answered, will this engine be a complete swap or are there missing pieces to the puzzle i'm missing to get the old lady purring again.

[csnow]

No, it wasn't you. It was RIC that stated that the reason 1J's were not putting up good numbers because people were using cheap parts.

You are missing a 2J powering steering hose and throttle cable. There is no distributor unless you are using 2JZGE. You need an ignitor. You will need a 2J water pump and clutch fan unless your swap has the complete hydrofan kit.

[OneJoeZee]

You are right, as the HP increases on both the 1J and 2J, the torque starts to drop. I was implying that the 2J was closer to a 1:1 than a 1J. I will still argue that torque whens races, not horsepower. A modded Supra lined up next to a properly modded 5.0, Vega, or Grand National will get stomped at the track. The highway....well, thats a different story.

But to each his own....

Now, back to the original poster, a 1J, 2J, or a 1.5J is money well spent on a MKIII. Good luck on your swap.

Thanks for elaborating. I was sure that's what you were getting at and I agree on most all points but I was trying to fish it out of you, you know?:)

I still wouldn't bet on the outcome of any given race based on just numbers though. Especially when talking about something controlled by humans, who are extremely fallible by nature.

[scottiedawg66]

if you plan on drifting a 1jz would likely be better suited than a 2jz and also less expensive since they come with the 5 speed and bell housing if u get a clip. I say the 1jz would be better due to its higher rev potential. If you just check out what the D1 guys are driving there are more 1jz than 2jzs. Formula D only has a 2jz so i guess there is your counter arguement.

~scott

[Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE]

why the hell argue 2jz vs 1jz

The 1jz came in our supras mkiiis factory so yes a 1jz is a drop in afair if it came out of a jza70

first of all you have to modify the throttle cable and shorten it it will save you 100$ pm me if you want to learn how to shorten it right!

2nd of all you dont need to extend the harness pm me if you want me to tell you how

3rd on the 1jz you dont need to buy an aftermarket power steering line use the hydrofan line for the ps line. because i recomend upgrading to the 2jzgte waterpump/housing with a clutch fan this upgrade cost about ~$110

so your options are to buy a clip for about 2300-2500 or buy long block for 1200 if you do the swap yourself it will cost about ~3000 for all the oil and stuff installed your self with a 1jz

a 2jz will cost over 2X that cost and you will still need to even buy 1jz parts to put it in your car! so about ~6000 to do a 2jz swap yourself a shop will add about ~2000 to the 2jz swap

if you have pre 89 Xmember add 150 for the bic mounts

the only reason to even consider a 2jz is if you plan to make more then 700whp and if you won the lotto.

[tturnpaw]

Ill make up a price list when i do my swap, and im going to put your quote to a challenge. It wont be na-t either, a full gte.

[bigaaron]

why the hell argue 2jz vs 1jz

The 1jz came in our supras mkiiis factory so yes a 1jz is a drop in afair if it came out of a jza70

first of all you have to modify the throttle cable and shorten it it will save you 100$ pm me if you want to learn how to shorten it right!

2nd of all you dont need to extend the harness pm me if you want me to tell you how

3rd on the 1jz you dont need to buy an aftermarket power steering line use the hydrofan line for the ps line. because i recomend upgrading to the 2jzgte waterpump/housing with a clutch fan this upgrade cost about ~$110

so your options are to buy a clip for about 2300-2500 or buy long block for 1200 if you do the swap yourself it will cost about ~3000 for all the oil and stuff installed your self with a 1jz

a 2jz will cost over 2X that cost and you will still need to even buy 1jz parts to put it in your car! so about ~6000 to do a 2jz swap yourself a shop will add about ~2000 to the 2jz swap

if you have pre 89 Xmember add 150 for the bic mounts

the only reason to even consider a 2jz is if you plan to make more then 700whp and if you won the lotto.



1) Why do you consider the clutch fan as an upgrade to the hydrofan? Have you ever had a working hydrofan? If you did you would not recommend removing it.

2) How are you going to get a 2jz water pump, pulley, fan, and fan clutch for $110?!? The pump alone is more then that, plus don't forget all the work to change it. It costs less to keep the hydrofan, and it's a better setup then clutch or electric!!!

3) Why would you recommend someone use the hydrofan hose for power steering when they are prone to leak, and a new ps hose is under $100.

4) BIC mounts are $175, not $150.

5) A new 2jz throttle cable is about $63 list, not $100, and the 1jz throttle cables from the clips are known to stick sometimes, which is unsafe.


You seem to inflate the prices of items you don't feel people should buy, and lower the prices of items you think they should buy well below market price.
What you keep recommending in every single 1jz thread you see is not really saving anyone money and making the swap less reliable.

[Van Diesel]

burn.

Glad my supra is a true jza70. No swap required.

[Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE]

Can I reply to this direct attack on me?

[Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE]

I am going by my cost:dunno:

I can provide pics and recipes


1) Why do you consider the clutch fan as an upgrade to the hydrofan? Have you ever had a working hydrofan? If you did you would not recommend removing it.
When I had it ran like crap it ran full blast 100% of the time the temp sensor is not factory on the MA70 body and when you change the radiator to the JZA70 then you could use it adding all the wiring & extra computer.
You can not even goto auto zone and say i need a new hydrofan/water pump because they blow up in a couple months running wrong.
The 2JZ-GTE water pump is one large pump instead of 2 small pumps



2) How are you going to get a 2jz water pump, pulley, fan, and fan clutch for $110?!? The pump alone is more then that, plus don't forget all the work to change it. It costs less to keep the hydrofan, and it's a better setup then clutch or electric!!!

About 2 years ago i puchased my complete housing out the door for 110 through my friend dany obrian at toyota irvine at cost!
The fan and pully was $10 used at a local junkyard it is in perris ca on highway 74.I used a credit from an automatic tranny i sold them before it was extra so it was free considering but if you have no credits with local junkyards expect to pay about 10$ for a pully and fan.
I dont think it is better then a clutch fan i have never seen any mkiv guys screaming i need to degrade my clutch fan to a hydrofan.
I didnt pay anyone 200$/hr to work on my car how hard is it really? and you also should change the timming belt while its out anyways right? or do you take that to your naborhood mechanic?



3) Why would you recommend someone use the hydrofan hose for power steering when they are prone to leak, and a new ps hose is under $100.

Mine does not leak? Do people know how to use new crush seals??The powersteering system and the hydrofan system is the same type of system? but argueing that anymore would be beyond stupid.



4) BIC mounts are $175, not $150.

Wow they went up $25 from what i paid better buy them now in another 2yrs maybe $200



5) A new 2jz throttle cable is about $63 list, not $100, and the 1jz throttle cables from the clips are known to stick sometimes, which is unsafe.
Mine never stuck is that fact or opinion mine was trimmed to length works perfect ?? would you like to see it?? as for the 2JZ cable I have heard it does stick yes and people have had problems with the 2JZ cable. I have heard you have to modify or adjust it as well to get it to work right. $100 was the price I was told last time I checked if you would like give me the part number and I can call toyota and give more facts about this and current list value and dealer discount cost and correct my post.



You seem to inflate the prices of items you don't feel people should buy, and lower the prices of items you think they should buy well below market price.
What you keep recommending in every single 1jz thread you see is not really saving anyone money and making the swap less reliable.

The prices are what I have payed.

Your opinion on how reliable my swap is with out seeing it and how many miles I actualy put on it is meaningless with out any facts.

I along with many people feel that eventualy converting to clutch fan was not as bad or worse on the supra reliability.

My mods are factory spec or better but again you have not seen it right ?

[csnow]

I did not have the hydro fan setup, that is why I am using the 2J waterpump and 2J clutch fan. If I had a hydro setup, I would have an additional pump and ECU as a spare. There could come a time when these items are hard to find.

Aaron, are you saying that you have seen cooling problems with people using a clutch fan, a/c fans, and a non-cracked shroud?

[OneJSupra]

Ok I own a 89 w/ a 7mge N/A that is completely screwed as of recent just fell apart on me, which was expected since i bought the car cheap, now the question is how big of a pain in the butt is it to swap a 1jz into into it considering they were used in the jap version if i'm not mistaken. Also if I do buy get the engine is there any special parts i need to be aware that I'm going to need in addition. if you want to know what comes w/ engine http://www.osakajdmmotors.com/introtoyota.htm Also it appears this engine does not come w/ an intercooler is that something that you have to have w/ a turbo'd engine or just an add on to help it out? I mean I'd get one eventually anyways, but the key thing is would the car be drivable till i could get the money to get an intercooler kit for it? I'll be doing this myself so i constantly be looking on her for tips and all that, but these were questions i needed to know b4 i even started if so it means i'm w/ out a car a lil longer :icon_evil
Thanks in advance

Since you will be doing the swap yoursef and never done it before I would definitely research as much as I could about it. There are tons of info on it that you can find out from this forum as well as SF. Then if you decide that it is worth it for yourself then I certainly take my time and not rush the job this way you know that it is done correctly. You can start by looking into this www.1jz-gte.us.

The question I would ask myself is it worth the money, time and pains to do a 1J swap and I would agree that it is after I drove my car the very first time with the 1J. But there will be trials and tribulations along the way and after the swap is done so be prepared.

[bigaaron]

I did not have the hydro fan setup, that is why I am using the 2J waterpump and 2J clutch fan. If I had a hydro setup, I would have an additional pump and ECU as a spare. There could come a time when these items are hard to find.

Aaron, are you saying that you have seen cooling problems with people using a clutch fan, a/c fans, and a non-cracked shroud?

No, the clutch fan works just fine for a 1jz if you don't have complete engine set with a hydrofan, but if you already have a complete hydrofan setup from a clip there is no reason to remove it and install a mechanical fan.

[bigaaron]

Can I reply to this direct attack on me?

How was it an attack on you? I disagreed with what you said and I explained why.

You proved my point with you explaination about how you got your mechanical fan, and how you came up with the prices you quoted. You got the pump at dealer cost and got lucky on the fan at a wrecking yard. How does that info help someone who is putting money together to do a 1jz swap, when he calls around to buy the same parts and has to spend well over $300 to buy them?

On the throttle cables, I have personally seen at least 4 1jz throttle cables stick. I'm just giving people a heads up on why a new throttle cable is a good idea with a 1jz swap.

On the hydrofan hoses, mine leaked, Jose's leaked, Joe's leaked, and several others. With all the power steering leaks the mk3's already have, why make it worse putting a old pressure hose designed for a hydrofan on your power steering system?

I was not commenting on your personal car's reliability. I'm telling you from experience on MANY 1jz swaps that some of the things you keep recommending are just not good in practice.

The whole reason for me to say anything at all is to help the origional poster figure out what works well when he goes to do his 1jz swap.

[Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE]

I understand what you mean now.
Yes the 1jz cable will bind yes if you do a swap from rhd to lhd and do not shorten it yes it will bind because people kink it or turn it to sharp but trimming it to the correct length that it should be instead of running to a toyota and buying 2JZ cable right away and saving money is a valid option a lot of people overlook.

By the way if any one wants to sell me the old 1JZ clip throttle cables for $20 I will correct the length and sell them back for $60 good as new cant help but to try.

[7Mboost]

Stop robbing this man's thread, you are suppose to be telling him about your experience with your 1jz and is it worth his time and money to do a swap NOT why 1jz or 2jz is better GET BACK ON TOPIC!

[The Reaper]

i did!!!!!

i told him the 1JZ is an awesome motor but if yur gonna go thru the trouble why not go 1 step further???? the 2JZ is just a better engine overall. if it wasn't then how come the MKIV guys dont swap out the 2JZ for a 1JZ??????? oh thats right cause the 2J is just a better stronger motor overall.

the 1JZ is a FUN motor dont get me wrong. i dawged on it the WHOLE time i owned my 7M and i smoked my buddy's Singled 1JZ all the time. so yes i dawged it. but after owning the 1JZ now it is a FUN motor to drive on stock twins. but for BIG power (my goal) the 2JZ is where its at

[The Reaper]

ummm no its not 500whp...i want to have around 700whp on high boost and its just easier to do on a 2J

and no the 1J was not stock...DID YOU NOT SEE THE PART WHERE IT SAID SINGLED?????????

anyhow he had AEM EMS on it and i was on a 60-1 that was untuned like crazy he was on a 67mm turbo tial wg and yadda yadda yadda

we were both on 15 lbs and i beat him on the highway 3 or 4 times. im sure his tune effect it BAD but i was untuned as well

[The Reaper]

his supra put down 346 at 18 psi on the 63 now he had the 67mm.

i was no where NEAR 450 whp so like i said im sure it was his tune on the EMS he was still learning it

[The Reaper]

good stuff. yea the 346 he was on emanage ultimate i believe and the whole setup sucked which is why he switched it up and got all new WG and mani and turbo and EMS

[The Reaper]

yea i got the emanage blue and e-01 and it works perfectly. the emanage ultimate is what has A LOT of problems.

[The Reaper]

Gotcha. What boost can you run on one? Still limited to the 18.5 stock map sensor or does it have its own?

still limited to the stock MAP. i will up grade the map later when i go single

right now with the BC set to Off i still hit 15psi on occasions so i dont really need to run more than that on stock twins LOL

but you can get the injector harness and ignition harness and then you can control Timing and Injector duty. i will get those later on too they are 50 a piece usually

[The Reaper]

Not bad, I wonder if that works better then a apexi SITC

not too sure i've heard good things about the SITC. you dont hear much about the Emanage Blue tho

[The Reaper]

Alot of the guys on SoarerCentral swear by the SITC on the 1JZ, I was thinking about picking one up. Then again, for the price of a SITC and MAP ECU 1, I can just get a MAP ECU 2 that controls ign.

hahaha yea most people dont look at it that way...

[Quin]

Man, you guys can jack a thread like no one else.

OP- the Osaka motor looks like it needs a 1JZ bellhousing & flywheel, ps reservoir, ps lines, intercooler and piping, hydrofan set up or electric fans or 2JZ water pump set up, radiator & hoses, throttle cable (you can get these from a certain year Camry and 2JZs, Camry's cable reportedly fits perfectly. Check the sticked swap info page for more information about that, as I don't remember what year Camry it was), timing belt could be GReddy from Driftmotion or one out of an old Isuzu Trooper (I want to say 86 but I'm not sure. Again, check the sticked page).

I may have missed something but that looks like its it.

EDIT: First line was said jokingly

[The Reaper]

you can use the PS res out of a 90 Honda Civic thats what i did works perfectly and we mounted it with the factory Honda bracket on the Strut tower bolts on the Intake mani side and it looks stocK!!

[The Reaper]

HAHAHAHA i got the sameone LOLOL

my cost was free

the PS pump froze on my DD Civic and it hasn't had PS in like 5 years or something, but it weighs like 5 lbs so i dont need PSing. so Tissimo and i just stole it off the honda cleaned it and BAM it works LOL.

we used an NA 7M PS res for the Hydrofan Fluid

[Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE]

ok im on track

Hell YES any JZ engine in a mkiii is worth it! dont get all wrapped up into the 2JZ unless you love wiring want more then 700whp

just get a jza70 clip from arron for 2500 do the swap new oil bic mounts if you need and drive it. it could be done in less then 1-2 weeks tops after you do 1-2 swaps.

[Ken]

don't go 1jz, they suck. researching before you buy is bad idea too.

agreed. I knew a guy who researched and did a 1jz swap, and 10 years later, BAM!! herpes.

[The Reaper]

HAHAHAHAHA well damn im glad i didn't research all that much!!! maybe i'll just get syphillis (sp?) little less harsh and can be gotten rid of......