Stinger standalone on 1jz is running!

[bigaaron]

We tested it out tonight, made a video so you can check it out.

www.driftmotion.com/1jzPNPstandalone.wmv


I drove my 7m car with the Stinger for the first time today, I'm just waiting on Bisi's new 900hp Dynapack dyno to get calibrated!

[MA717MGTE]

ya have to post this as i am in the middle of a freakin wmp update.. thx alot :nono:

[OneJArpus]

Whats the price on the stinger kit and what does it come with?

[RacerXJ220]

Buy from Driftmotion, get the calibration tables!.... ahem ahem....

[HIDPLANET]

That is so frickin badass Aaron!
Good job on getting it all wrapped up.
Looks so easy to tune and mess around with. I may have to get this once my car is finished at the paintshop.

Also, what interface to the laptop does it require?
Is it universal or PC specific? Would be really cool to setup a mc mini or miniPC in the glove box with a small screen to fit.

[PHILLYSUPRA]

yes!!!, one more reason to go 1jz. imma be on the look out for more.:icon_bigg

[bigaaron]

That is so frickin badass Aaron!
Good job on getting it all wrapped up.
Looks so easy to tune and mess around with. I may have to get this once my car is finished at the paintshop.

Also, what interface to the laptop does it require?
Is it universal or PC specific? Would be really cool to setup a mc mini or miniPC in the glove box with a small screen to fit.

Thanks! It uses a serial connection, but I just plugged it into a $15 Airlink serial to usb converter and it works excellent. You just have to see which com port the usb adaptor is using and set it for the same number in the standalone software. You could use it with a car pc or a laptop, I'm going to have it plugged into mine at some point.

[HIDPLANET]

Oh and I agree with the video, you are partially retarded........but the coolest R-tard I know!

So when can we expect to see the harnesses in full production and the stinger ready for plug and play retail?

[bigaaron]

I ride the 7m powered short bus LOL

[mattjk]

OMG YOU GUYS RULE!!!!

Can't wait to get mine :)

[Van Diesel]

Aaron have you figured out how to do the Idle control solenoid?

[bigaaron]

Yes, I have it working on the test bench with a Bosch solenoid I got on Ebay for super cheap, but I need to get it on the car and test it out.

Here's another one available right now, just like the one I got:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BOSCH-IDLE-AIR-CONTROL-Valve-IAC-0280-140-505_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ38634QQihZ003QQitemZ130055163497QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V

Even less, $10 shipped:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SAAB-900-turbo-BOSH-idle-air-control-valve_W0QQitemZ200071633729QQihZ010QQcategoryZ33699QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
(I just bid on this one, so disreguard this LOL)

[MA717MGTE]

can't be testing it if your jaw jackin here now can ya? im very impressed with it in the video, and now concedering a 1J instead of 2J. btw did u get my pm?

[bigaaron]

can't be testing it if your jaw jackin here now can ya?

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[Zerocool]

Thats bad ass! I will deffently be down for one of those when the time comes!

[Van Diesel]

Yes, I have it working on the test bench with a Bosch solenoid I got on Ebay for super cheap, but I need to get it on the car and test it out.

Awesome. Are you going to remove the stock one and then make an adapter plate for it? If so, then you could sell the adapter plate, bosch solenoid, stinger4 and wiring harness adapter as a combo!

And I would be the first to get in line.

[hottscennessey]

Yay, I want. I'm getting it. Soon.

[bigaaron]

Awesome. Are you going to remove the stock one and then make an adapter plate for it? If so, then you could sell the adapter plate, bosch solenoid, stinger4 and wiring harness adapter as a combo!

And I would be the first to get in line.

I do have to draw the line somewhere :biglaugh:
I think on the 1jz the easiest way to do it would be to leave the stock one there (because it's normally open anyway), and then put it inline on the other side of the engine where the outlet is on the intake.

[OneJoeZee]

So I guess I should add this to the list of things I wanna do when I go single. :)

[Van Diesel]

I do have to draw the line somewhere :biglaugh:
I think on the 1jz the easiest way to do it would be to leave the stock one there (because it's normally open anyway), and then put it inline on the other side of the engine where the outlet is on the intake.

Awesome. Maybe I'll be the 1st to do a an adapter plate then::w00t::

[bigaaron]

Too late hehehe
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/BigAaron/supra%20upgrades/DSCF3821.jpg

[empera]

thats great, u do have these for 7m's correct?
damn i wish u guys were closer.

[Van Diesel]

that doesn't look like a 1JZ ISCV Aaron haha. But at least I've got some good ideas on how to do it with your picture.

[honestabe]

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: Yet one more reason Aaron and Jose are God's in the Supra world.

[Zazzn]

sweet. how much are the singers just wondering..

[bigaaron]

They Stinger is going for $950. The plug and play harness will be under $200. Maybe a little less once we get it all worked out.

[RacerXJ220]

Looking good! I finally watched the vid on my laptop. Nice.

[garagefujimoto]

How soon for availability? I want it yesterday

Do you even need the idle motor?

[935motorsports]

The ISC missing from the 7m manifold is the picture of the year!

[bigaaron]

How soon for availability? I want it yesterday

Do you even need the idle motor?

You don't really need the isc, but I just wanted to make sure I could get something that works for sure for the people who want it.

My standalone dyno day is postponed till this weekend. Bisi had oral surgery today and they have him on some strong pain killers.

[JoeC]

Aaron, Keep us posted on your progess with this. I am thinking about running the Stinger with harness on a 1jz wiring harness using a 2jz motor this summer.

[RacerXJ220]

Aaron, thanks for all the help you've been giving me lately. None of this could have been possible without your help.

[honestabe]

Bisi?

[bigaaron]

Bisimoto engineering, our dyno place :icon_wink
www.bisimoto.com

[bigaaron]

I came across something today that I thought I should bring up.

The Stinger will work with a Innovate LC-1 wideband. It also has a voltage setting for the wideband input at 8:1 and 22:1 afr. So you could actually set it up for other wideband controllers, but you would need to check it against another wideband on the car to make sure the readings are correct.

[Van Diesel]

lc-1 and lm-1 use the same sensor correct?

[bigaaron]

I want to say yes, but I would have to look it up or ask Innovate to be sure.

[Van Diesel]

okay did some research. Both use the 5-wire LSU4.2 bosch PN 0 258 007 057. Looks like stinger can accept both LM-1 and LC-1 since the sensor type is the same.

Now THAT kicks ass.

[Big Wang Bandit]

Wow, looks great aaron.

You do good work for being mildly retarded!

[MA717MGTE]

stupid question here

if the stinger is going to be the ecu and tunable

why would u want to use a wideband? for more fine tuning i take it??

[bigaaron]

It has a the capability to do auto tuning, or to run closed loop with a target afr at a specific vacuum or boost level. You don't have to have it, but it can aid in the initial tuning enough to limp the car over to the dyno without being towed.

[bigaaron]

Here's the full manual for the Stinger, it's pretty complete, but if you have questions feel free to ask.

www.driftmotion.com/Stinger_Manual.pdf

[MA717MGTE]

ok.. so having the stinger just allows more "maps" to run the 1J than of cource the 1J ecu, and there for a LM1 wideband just offers more supiror tuning?

[bigaaron]

Basically, yes. It also allows complete control of the timing for any different engine and turbo setup, it has a hard and soft rev limit that can be set to anything you want (up to 32,000 rpm :)), it can work with any size high or low impedance injectors, etc... But all those features are something you need to adjust, or have adjusted for you. That will require several hours of dyno time, and lots of reading and studying of engine management systems in general. You could use the wideband to get it close, which will most likely save you more money in towing and dyno time then it will cost to buy the wideband.

[bobiseverywhere]

Aaron i don't know much about the stand alones and understand even less

Whats the advantage to the stinger? as compared to other systems

[bigaaron]

Without a basic understanding of how they work and what they do, the benifits might be kind of hard to see. I say this because I've covered everything several times in several threads. At some point I'll make a sticky with all the info I have been putting together. I'll also look for a good site with standalone basics for people to read.

[bobiseverywhere]

that would be great

thanks Aaron

[Big Wang Bandit]

I look forward to that thread. Always looking at upgrades... That are wayyy outta my reach ;)

[MA717MGTE]

sweet, good explanation.

kinda OT

btw, where can one get bigger injectors w/o having to wire resister packs for the 1J?

[bigaaron]

Sorry about my last post, I double posted from my Blackberry by accident.

This was from a previous thread:

There are many advantages in going to a standalone ecu. The piggyback units basically fool the stock ecu into doing what you want it to, but there are many things you really have no control over. The standalone has any rev limit you want, and this one has a 2 step rev limiter also. You can make the timing curves how ever you want. You can tune by tps (for na usually) or by map sensor. There are 840 possible tuning points on a 3d map, instead of 3 dials or low, mid and high throttle, and it will interpolate between points so you do not have to adjust every single one. Standalones do require tuning, done by someone with experience, but this one is no harder to tune then any of the other ones on the market that cost a lot more money. All the piggyback units will also require dyno tuning to get the most possible power, but getting a purfect tune with a piggyback can sometimes be very difficult.

[OneJoeZee]

so the stinger does have a 2step?

cool. :)

[bobiseverywhere]

thanks for that info Aaron. I was thinking of going piggy back but with the info you gave there it makes much more sense to go stand alone and have proper control over things. :)

[Van Diesel]

What time frame do you think you will be producing these Aaron?

[garagefujimoto]

What time frame do you think you will be producing these Aaron?

I second this
I need an ECU, harness stat :love:

[RacerXJ220]

2 step, AND rally or drag style anti-lag, which is also cool. It will also control my electric fans, automatically. Badass for the money.

[bigaaron]

I'm going to the dyno in 8 hours for the 7m, and possibly for the 1jz too. If everything goes well tomorrow, then it will be 2 weeks max and I'll have them ready to go. I have the idle speed control fully functional now. Started it up this morning no problem at all.

[darkspeed]

Sounds cool! I'm going to talk 1-on1 with Jeff during the Bham meet to discuss the differences of Megasquirt and Stinger; this may be something I want to try on the 2jz Celica.

Can't wait to see some dyno figures

D

[PHILLYSUPRA]

AARON: is there any help in sight for us na-t guys? even as far as a base map. (of course we are using the na harness)
would there be a way to add the gte cps into the mix to use as the timing source? (even if i had to hard wire the cps in)
ive been following the maft-pro na setup thread and am wondering if i should just go stinger if it could work because i could also get rid of my air flow meter.
i would like to get rid of the isc also and you are the first ive seen.

your getting some money from me this year anyway, i just gotta decide what i want to buy first.

sorry: i was reading the 1jz thread but, im refering to the 7m. got a little ahead of myself.

[bigaaron]

You could absolutely make the na-t distributorless and use the 7m-gte ignitor and coil pack, or you could keep the distributor and run a MSD coil or something similar. Almost any aftermarket single coil ignitor will work with the Stinger. I don't think I would make a harness for it, but I could possibly help with a schematic. People seem to be afraid of wiring up a standalone, but it's really not all that hard to do.

Here's a in car video with the Stinger:
www.driftmotion.com/7mgte_stinger_base_tune.wmv

In the video my tach is a little off, I need to wire the Stinger tach output to the stock tach. Since the ignitor inputs are pulsed differently, the ignitors tach output is different. The redline was set to 7.5k with the soft rev limiter, with a 7.8k hard rev limit.

[OneJoeZee]

when are you gonna be at the dyno, aaron? I might wanna stop by after work if you're still there.

what is the difference between soft and hard rev limiter?

[bigaaron]

I was there this morning. The stock 7m-gte has a soft rev limit, the hard rev limit is when the ecu completely cuts fuel until the rpm drops below the set point. We really didn't have enough time to touch the timing at all, and the dynapack numbers are lower then a dynojet, but it made 388whp at 16psi. On the street it feels much smother and more powerfull under boost, I have the higher rev limit I wanted, and there is so much more power to be had from it with some more tuning. Also, the engine is burning some oil which is why I am building the new 5m-7m engine.

[TTime24]

guess im getting a stinger guys :icon_bigg

but the question is for a 7m or a 1j????:momaru:

[OneJoeZee]

guess im getting a stinger guys :icon_bigg

but the question is for a 7m or a 1j????:momaru:

make the smart choice:icon_surp

[TTime24]

make the smart choice:icon_surp


oooohohoho Joe you have no idea, i think your gona be happy:naughty: :naughty: :naughty:

[OneJoeZee]

what? did you buy ray's 2.6L block too? everybody bought that thing!

[mattjk]

I have pics, want them? LOL

[TTime24]

hahah yea seriously, he must have had like 2600 of thos things. lol


but no


i have something WAYYYYYYYYYYYYY old school in the works. :hsugh:

[TTime24]

I have pics, want them? LOL

You Shut Your Mouth when your talking to me!

[OneJoeZee]

i have something WAYYYYYYYYYYYYY old school in the works. :hsugh:
a 1G? gtfo wit dat shit yo

[TTime24]

a 1G? gtfo wit dat shit yo

:umno:


haha no way yo. its still a Jz. (not 2j)

thats the only hint you get:icon_razz

[bigaaron]

oh no, Tommy's going to the dark side!

[TTime24]

lol, Aaron you should film a vid of the stinger in Jose's car when you guys get the chance and get and get Really Really excited like he did in the last video. :icon_bigg

[bigaaron]

I don't think I've given him a test drive in my car in years, he was hamming it up a little :biglaugh:

[Big Wang Bandit]

1g:love: :love: :love:

[TTime24]

1g:love: :love: :love:


Knock that off. lol

[TTime24]

I don't think I've given him a test drive in my car in years, he was hamming it up a little :biglaugh:

A little!, haha did you see how excited he got when you asked if you wanted to scare that poor man on the bike :biglaugh: :nono: :biglaugh:

[Van Diesel]

I'm going to the dyno in 8 hours for the 7m, and possibly for the 1jz too. If everything goes well tomorrow, then it will be 2 weeks max and I'll have them ready to go. I have the idle speed control fully functional now. Started it up this morning no problem at all.

Okay where do I send my hard earned life savings to?:naughty:

[garagefujimoto]

any updates
i am ready to go on this

[TTime24]

any updates
i am ready to go on this

oooo i am too. I know you guys are figiting with it.

im just trying to bump this sucka.:icon_bigg

[bigaaron]

i wanta get it done, but we have soooooooooo many projects going on that are taking priority. Also, the first ones we sold have proven to be very time consuming in terms of tech support, and I really couldn't handle 20 people calling me with questions about their standalone setup and software.

I am picking up a 1jz ct26 manifold tomorrow to mock up, that's one thing that is getting done asap.

[Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE]

It is a verry nice ECU it was my first pick for a while but 2 things discouraged me.
1.)"Stepper motor control (Available in next software release) (http://www.enginemanagement.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=23&products_id=108&view=specifications)" :icon_sad: bye bye ISVC no 4 stepper control.

2.)"8 Ignition outputs (Current software release allows for 4) (http://www.enginemanagement.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=23&products_id=108&view=specifications)" To clear this up our ignitor requires 6 individual spark inputs our coil packs. The injectors factory are batch. I am changing mine to sequential by spliting the injector pairs and running individual wires upgrading my injector system.

3.) No display interface



I could live with problem #3.) and get a stack-inc 8130 whiteface display later which is the best display.http://www.stackinc.com/img/8130wh.gif

As far as 1 & 2 have you been able to get the 4 step isvc to work & have you been able to get more then 4 ignition ouputs on this yet ? if so i may have to just get this ecu instead of the wolf! do you have newer software then what the web page says by the limitations of 1.) & 2.)?

By far the stinger is still worth it by value!

[bigaaron]

I already have a idle speed control working on my 7m car, it uses a Bosch pwm isc instead of the stock idle speed control, I bought the Bosch isc for $15 on ebay. Sequential ignition is not needed, we already have it running a 7m ignitor and a 1jz ignitor batch fire.

[garagefujimoto]

is the iscv really necessary>?

any idea on harness cost?

[bigaaron]

ISC is not really needed. Since I have been unable to get the harnesses ready for sale we will be offering the Stinger at a discount. We will have them on the website for $850. At this price I will not be able to offer telephone tech support. It will be the ecu and the unterminated harness. I have the Bosch wideband sensor available for it for $210. I can give you the basemaps and sensor calibration files I have made so far.

[BigTree]

So you are still going to work on getting us a P&P harness or not anymore?

[5uprahboy]

I will be getting a stinger at the end of this month hopefully. I'm running a 1G-GTE and have a VPC in it at the moment but its just not doing it for me.

Is there a "Stinger site" where you can download pre-made base fuel maps?

[bigaaron]

So you are still going to work on getting us a P&P harness or not anymore?

Yes, I will have them eventually. My car is going down in about a week for the new engine build so I will copy the harness during that time.

[garagefujimoto]

Yes pls do it soon, I don't want to have to go Power Fc at a higher cost for less ECU

[Van Diesel]

Yes, I will have them eventually. My car is going down in about a week for the new engine build so I will copy the harness during that time.

So they will be ready soon? Good thing I looked here before buying a PFC on ebay.:nono:

[Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE]

The 1jz-gte comes with on VSV for turning on and off the evap line when is this on or off i want to set this up correct with my ecu?

[tlo86]

so this can simplify a 2jz swap? :)

[The Reaper]

thats what i want to know

if yur using a 1JZ harness for yur 2J swap it will work fine right?

thats the only way i'll get it if its compatible that way cause im not staying 1J for too long. going 2J

[Van Diesel]

update on harness? I'm so close to buying a Power FC....

[bigaaron]

thats what i want to know

if yur using a 1JZ harness for yur 2J swap it will work fine right?

thats the only way i'll get it if its compatible that way cause im not staying 1J for too long. going 2J

The Stinger can work with any engine. If you put the 1jz harness on the 2jz the standalone would not know the difference. You may have to change a few engine connectors or sensors when you change over the harness but otherwise it should be fine.

[bigaaron]

update on harness? I'm so close to buying a Power FC....

If you really want one for a 1jz I will make one for you now. The harness will be $200, and the Stinger is $850, the Bosch wideband sensor for it is $210. You can purchase it through the website at www.driftmotion.com, and put in the special instructions that you want the harness and if you want the wideband. I'll bill the addititonal items manually. Or my paypal is aaron@driftmotion.com, but you need to add 3% to the total, and shipping will be about $15 insured in the US.

[Van Diesel]

If you really want one for a 1jz I will make one for you now. The harness will be $200, and the Stinger is $850, the Bosch wideband sensor for it is $210. You can purchase it through the website at www.driftmotion.com, and put in the special instructions that you want the harness and if you want the wideband. I'll bill the addititonal items manually. Or my paypal is aaron@driftmotion.com, but you need to add 3% to the total, and shipping will be about $15 insured in the US.

Done deal. Expect a big payment from me friday.

[garagefujimoto]

Will you please make 2..com'on it'll be easy to do 2 :P Please !
I'll pay today.
I'm goin to the border soon also, so you don;t have to send it to Canada

[bigaaron]

Will you please make 2..com'on it'll be easy to do 2 :P Please !
I'll pay today.
I'm goin to the border soon also, so you don;t have to send it to Canada

oops! I hit edit on your post instead of reply.

Ok, lets do it, you were waiting too. I'll make them at the same time. PM me for info about the details.

That's enough for the moment though, after these are done I will take on a few more.

[bigaaron]

The first one is ready to ship, just waiting on the wideband sensors.

[slowsupratt]

First two stingers with harnesses are spoken for correct? I will be number 3.

[bigaaron]

I only have one paid for so far, I'm just waiting on the o2 sensor to ship it, should be this week. I'll have another harness ready this week, and I ordered 4 o2 sensors and we have 4 stingers in stock.

[garagefujimoto]

Paying ofr mine today...hope she works

[bigaaron]

Another harness is done and ready to go! Widebands should in stock by by Friday.

[kikwear002]

very interesting, so the harness will just plug into the oem 1jz ecu harness then plug in the stinger and your done?

Any pics of the product?

[bigaaron]

very interesting, so the harness will just plug into the oem 1jz ecu harness then plug in the stinger and your done?

Any pics of the product?

If plugs in, but you need a vacuum line from the manifold to the Stinger, and you need to wire in a Bosch relay (included) in place of the stock one. It's as pnp as you will get. Don't forget that this will only get it to start, you still need to block off the ISC and spend about 3 hours on the dyno tuning it.

[kikwear002]

If plugs in, but you need a vacuum line from the manifold to the Stinger, and you need to wire in a Bosch relay (included) in place of the stock one. It's as pnp as you will get. Don't forget that this will only get it to start, you still need to block off the ISC and spend about 3 hours on the dyno tuning it.
There are base maps out there although?

I dont really care about the ISC since its mosly a track car. Wiring is not a problem. What kind of difficulity is it to tune compared to aem, or hal-tech?

[bigaaron]

I've had several tuners check it out and I asked them for their hosest opinion, they said the software was as easy to use as anything they had seen.

The base map I have is only to get it to run, I don't want to tell anyone that they should go drive it under boost and full throttle. It's only meant to get you to the dyno without a tow truck. I don't want to recommend something that can damage someone's engine.

[IJ.]

Aaron: If the software allows Boost Cut and RPM limiting it might be an idea to set these in the base map ;)

Include a disclaimer that activating these these may result in engine damage if not performed by a tuner on a dyno yada yada ...

[935motorsports]

How about a password to allow boosting past 15 psi and 7000 RPM?

Now that would be funny.

[rakkasan]

I wish I would have went this route. I might try to unload my Emanage/Profec & step off the deep end....

[garagefujimoto]

interested in a hydrofan ecu as a trade-in credit?

I found it while cleaning today
It's from my JZA70, worked fine when removed

[bigaaron]

interested in a hydrofan ecu as a trade-in credit?

I found it while cleaning today
It's from my JZA70, worked fine when removed

No thanks.

[Van Diesel]

Can the stinger4 control the stock hydrofan setup? Or will I have to go 2JZ WP + electric fan.

[str8_6]

i went to eletric fan and just took out the clutch fan, re-routed a coolant line and unplugged the thing...never went with the 2jz water pump (althought it would be best)

but i'm just telling you it can work by doing that and having an efan.

[Van Diesel]

jza70 supra doesn't have a clutch fan. Your motor must have come out of a soarer. 2JZ WP and 1JZ soarer are the same.

[str8_6]

thats what i meant...my bad. i was thinking of my 7m for some reason. i do have the hydro fan set up.

[bigaaron]

The hydrofan has it's own ecu, when you plug in the stinger the hydrofan will be unaffected, it will still work like stock.

[Van Diesel]

k. Just getting confirmation. You get my 30 e-mails :lol:

[bigaaron]

Van Diesel's shipped today!

[Van Diesel]

sweet! Now I just need a good ignition map and the tuning will commense.

[bigaaron]

You know how we roll..... It's already loaded and tested.

[Van Diesel]

Awesome!

Hey you know I have an open order with you guys. I think there may be a problem with the shipping/billing address. Anyway I can complete the transaction using paypal (I don't mind paying the 3% charge)?

[Van Diesel]

Got my stinger today. Looks pretty staight forward to install. How does the relay hook up?

[bigaaron]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/BigAaron/driftmotion/stingerfprelay.jpg

[Van Diesel]

Oh the relay was for the fuel pump? Well shit I don't have a 7M converted to a 1JZ. I have an original JZA70 (rhd). I'll get time this weekend to fiddle with it. Thanks driftmotion!

[bigaaron]

Oh the relay was for the fuel pump? Well shit I don't have a 7M converted to a 1JZ. I have an original JZA70 (rhd). I'll get time this weekend to fiddle with it. Thanks driftmotion!

It has the same relay, you can replace it with the Bosch. The fuel pump resistor will not be used anymore, it can be removed.

[Van Diesel]

k than aaron. when your not too busy, shoot me that base map if you could :P

[rakkasan]

Hey Aaron, where can I download the tuning software?

[csnow]

So there is no way to have ISC?

[bigaaron]

Yes, you can have an isc, but it can't control the stock one.

The tuning software can be downloaded from www.enginemanagement.com.au

I think a simple isc could be just a on/off valve that opens for cold idle, and then opens when the ac comes on.

[garagefujimoto]

Picked mine up yesterday
The kit looks pretty sweet
Thanks for making this a reality

[Van Diesel]

Hey Aaron, where can I download the tuning software?

http://www.enginemanagementsystem.com/downloads.htm

[Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE]

Yep at this point it cant do four stepper motor, But it haves signle PWM output (Pulse Width Modulated) like a boost controler but only opens on certain things like when you hit the Brakes, Steering Hard, A/C, idle rough.

Since i removed the A/C (Leaving the Steering intact as mechanical) The Brake signal will goto the A/C input on my ecu. The stock ECU does read the brakes for idle control on JZA70 the input is connector T pin 14 green white wire on the ECU goes to connector IG1 pin 4. They are both Hi signals when either is applyed going into ECU and interchangable to idle up mode.

[rakkasan]

Hey Aaron, you asked if I was running AC & I told you no. I meant to say that my AC isn't currently working, but will.

I was looking through the Stinger manual & found this....


Idle Up Percentage
This mode is used in conjunction with one of the Auxiliary Outputs set to Idle control mode.
The In Gear Idle up % field will become active.
The Input can be connected to auto transmission or air / con
compressor clutch so that if a gear is selected or the air air / con
cuts in, the extra idle up % value will open the idle valve to help stop
engine stalling with the additional load shock.

So this thing will be AC compatable, correct?

[bigaaron]

It does have an idle up input, but that only works with an idle control solenoid hooked up. I have a Bosch unit on my car and it is working, but it's kinda expensive new ($180) and kinda complicated (needs a 50w resistor). I will have a simple and cost effective idle control solenoid for the Stinger soon. I just haven't had time to try out a few ideas for different solenoids. It will be using a Ford IAC pwm type unit. The other option is just a vacuum solenoid that is switched on or off for fast idle, I just need to find a vacuum solenoid that has slightly larger ports then a Toyota VSV.

[tissimo]

Looks like a pretty affordable standalone setup.. so what all is required for the stinger setup to be fully functional? ecu, adapter harness, idle valve?

So how much is a fully functional stinger setup (idle and all)?

Is boost control possible with stinger?

On the nitrous control can it be adapted for methanol control (I see you can add fuel but can't take away?) also iis the Ignition modifier adding ignition or taking away. I assume it would remove timing, as they say to pull timing when installing a nitrous setup (not familair with nitrous that much)

Can you use a different map sensor? I havn't read too much on your website about it, but it seems I can only rescale the fuel map to 200 kpa.. i assume this is due to the internal 3 bar map sensor thats incuded in it (right?) I cant find anything in the software to rescale the map sensor values for it.. to use a 5 bar or something (would like to run 32-35 psi eventually)

I'm sort of confused on the fueling setup (fuel map) is the stock map Boost compinsated? looking at the Fuel Map Override.

With the JZ setup, would an ignition amp be required as it will run in wastefire?

edit: also how is the sensor calibration? like if you wanted to use a gm iat or whatever in the charge piping to get a more accurate reading, rather then the heatsoaked intake manifold? is that resistance in ohms or something?

[Van Diesel]

Looks like a pretty affordable standalone setup.. so what all is required for the stinger setup to be fully functional? ecu, adapter harness, idle valve?

So how much is a fully functional stinger setup (idle and all)?

Is boost control possible with stinger?

On the nitrous control can it be adapted for methanol control (I see you can add fuel but can't take away?) also iis the Ignition modifier adding ignition or taking away. I assume it would remove timing, as they say to pull timing when installing a nitrous setup (not familair with nitrous that much)


Can you use a different map sensor? I havn't read too much on your website about it, but it seems I can only rescale the fuel map to 200 kpa.. i assume this is due to the internal 3 bar map sensor thats incuded in it (right?) I cant find anything in the software to rescale the map sensor values for it.. to use a 5 bar or something (would like to run 32-35 psi eventually)

I'm sort of confused on the fueling setup (fuel map) is the stock map Boost compinsated? looking at the Fuel Map Override.

With the JZ setup, would an ignition amp be required as it will run in wastefire?

edit: also how is the sensor calibration? like if you wanted to use a gm iat or whatever in the charge piping to get a more accurate reading, rather then the heatsoaked intake manifold? is that resistance in ohms or something?

GM ait would be calibrated by creating a voltage/temp table. Aaron posted a video on how to do the water temp sensor.

The same company that makes the stinger4 also makes the 8860. More features, but obviously more costly.

[bigaaron]

Looks like a pretty affordable standalone setup.. so what all is required for the stinger setup to be fully functional? ecu, adapter harness, idle valve?

So how much is a fully functional stinger setup (idle and all)?

Is boost control possible with stinger?

On the nitrous control can it be adapted for methanol control (I see you can add fuel but can't take away?) also iis the Ignition modifier adding ignition or taking away. I assume it would remove timing, as they say to pull timing when installing a nitrous setup (not familair with nitrous that much)

Can you use a different map sensor? I havn't read too much on your website about it, but it seems I can only rescale the fuel map to 200 kpa.. i assume this is due to the internal 3 bar map sensor thats incuded in it (right?) I cant find anything in the software to rescale the map sensor values for it.. to use a 5 bar or something (would like to run 32-35 psi eventually)

I'm sort of confused on the fueling setup (fuel map) is the stock map Boost compinsated? looking at the Fuel Map Override.

With the JZ setup, would an ignition amp be required as it will run in wastefire?

edit: also how is the sensor calibration? like if you wanted to use a gm iat or whatever in the charge piping to get a more accurate reading, rather then the heatsoaked intake manifold? is that resistance in ohms or something?

The Stinger is $1050 with a pnp 1jz harness, $210 for the Bosch wideband (or you can use an Innovate LC-1 or LM-1).

Idle control I picked up on Ebay for $10 like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Bosch-3-wire-Idle-Control-Valve_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33553QQihZ006QQitemZ160121033216QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
The engine can work just fine without any idle control, even with AC. It will idle at about 600rpm cold, and 1000rpm hot. With the AC on the idle only drops about 150rpm.

Boost control can be done with the stinger, it has a boost referenced pwm output that can drive a solenoid,a solenoid just like what would come with most boost controllers on the market. You could buy the one that they sell for the maft-pro.

The fuel map is pressure and rpm referenced, the override is to add more fuel then what the map is set for at specific pressure levels. I think that is used to make the map more smooth visually, so that you don't need to make huge changes as the boost rises. The initial setting works very well for that, my maps look very smooth once the tuning is completed.

The TPS is used for the throttle enrichment on turbo engines. You can also select the load source to be TPS (instead of manifold pressure) for non turbo cars.

From testing on multiple cars now I have found that the 1jz ignitor works just fine running waste spark, even at an rpm above the stock redline. I have also done two cars now with a 7m ignitor running on the 1jz, so for people who can't get a 1jz ignitor with their engine set, you wouldn't need it. You also wouldn't need a map sensor, because it's built in the Stinger.

The Stinger has a 30psi map sensor built in. It is not upgradeable or scaleable as far as I know. If you are going to be running over 30psi and want a bunch of additional features, take a look at the 8860, I can get you into that one for $1300, and I can make a pnp harness for it too if you want to get one.

For 30+ psi, don't even bother with a stock ignitor. Run a MSD DIS-4, or once AEM works out some bugs they have an inexpensive ignition box called the Twin-Fire that I will be offering at a great price. They had problems with a small gap at super high hp levels so and they are re-designing it.

[85?]

This sounds like a really nice standalone.

[bigaaron]

I think I found something promissing!

http://i21.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/8c/60/62b2_1.JPG

I found this one for under $20 shipped. It could be used for a simple fast idle switch that can be turned on when the engine is cold and/or with the AC.

[Spaniard]

What does the Stinger do for boost control in relation to Apexi AVC-R. I really like my AVC-R and how it controls boost. SHould I keep it?

[bigaaron]

The Stinger can control boost if you use a boost solenoid with it, but you would probably be better off keeping your boost controller if you already have one. It works independantly of your aftermarket boost controller, any brand will work.

[Spaniard]

How does the Stinger ecu do with the air temp. sensor. I go through a variety of temp. changes with my car. Does it handle it well just like a stock 1jz would?

[bigaaron]

How does the Stinger ecu do with the air temp. sensor. I go through a variety of temp. changes with my car. Does it handle it well just like a stock 1jz would?

It's speed density, so it is always sampling the air temp and manifold pressure accurately.

[tlo86]

i found a little writeup on this ecu

http://www.enginemanagement.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=107

it looks like a beast a very possible solution for me in the future with my 2jz

[5uprahboy]

i found a little writeup on this ecu

http://www.enginemanagement.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=107

it looks like a beast a very possible solution for me in the future with my 2jz

Yeah its a pretty awesome little ECU. Mate of mine has one in his 500+rwkw 1.5JZ. He had an Emanage Ultimate, which he could only get around 350rwkw stable, put the stinger in, and, what a difference! 500+rwkw consistantly!

[bigaaron]

I have a Stinger with 1jz pnp harness ready to ship same day if ordered before 3pm pst. Includes basemaps for 440cc and 550cc injectors.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/BigAaron/driftmotion/1jz_Stinger_harness.jpg

[bigaaron]

Evolution's 1.5jz just made 458whp and 397tq tonight with the Stinger and plug-n-play harness........at only 1bar of boost!!! Almost exactly 14.7 psi, on pump gas.

[OneJoeZee]

Wow.

I'm jealous.

I'll be making 450 soon. :/

[bigaaron]

Actually the power was climbing with every pull, but we cut it short due to some coolant leaks. I think it will be closer to 480 at 1 bar with a little more tweaking on the timing map, and it also had an exhaust leak which probably was robbing a few ponies.

[Big Wang Bandit]

Actually the power was climbing with every pull, but we cut it short due to some coolant leaks.

That sounds like Jackies car. :rofl:

[bigaaron]

....and oil leaks :biglaugh:

JK, he put down some power and represented for the BAS crew!

[Big Wang Bandit]

Haha, At least he made it and its as powerful as ever! Man, Bert is gonna be mad!

I can't wait to see it when he gets back!

[bigaaron]

I can't wait till he gets some race gas in it and adjusts the boost controller, I think his 550whp goal will be no problem.

[Van Diesel]

what's evolution's setup? 450 at 15psi is no bitch.

[bigaaron]

He's got upgraded cams, 780cc (or 720cc?) injectors, my 1jz afpr kit, and a big t4 turbo I forget the specs on. I'll have to ask him again about his setup.

[Van Diesel]

sounds very similar to my setup (minus the big T4 turbo) and I run sard 850cc's

[Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE]

how do you get the side feed rails to flow more then the estimated max of 550 cc ? unless you did what I did then nvm

[Van Diesel]

you use a center return?

[bigaaron]

He has an aftermarket fuel rail.

[EvoLuTioN]

sp74ho turbo
ttc top feed
880cc injectors
afpr
and radiator hose that sprays coolant in a full 360* circle is the way to do it :D

thanks aaron and bisi for their great work and hell we even had a little slumber party :D

[OneJoeZee]

Bisi is kewl.

[Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE]

I have this as my new signature for joe!
http://www.redsave.com/productimages/talking_swat_130.gif

[Van Diesel]

guess you can swat me too.

[EvoLuTioN]

here's the dyno chart:

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z45/EvoLuTioN128/DynoSheet.jpg
thanks to Aaron and Bisi once again!

and thats at 1 bar

[suprahero]

I have a Stinger with 1jz pnp harness ready to ship same day if ordered before 3pm pst. Includes basemaps for 440cc and 550cc injectors.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/BigAaron/driftmotion/1jz_Stinger_harness.jpg

Is this still available? I'm still debating on going with a standalone or not. I think I need one, but my car runs so good without it. I may be missing out on some power though. I guess I won't know until I get one and see.

[OneJoeZee]

What management are you using now, Jay?

[bigaaron]

Yes, I'm making the harnesses still. I'm actually working on one tonight as a matter of fact.

Jay has a safc that's maxed out as lean as it can go for most of the rpm band, and it's still too rich in some places.

[OneJoeZee]

Like 30% adjustments in areas?

Do you think that's possibly the reason for Jay's tq to hp numbers?

Large adjustments on the AFC does funky things with the timing.

[bigaaron]

Yes, I believe you are correct sir. The injectors are 624cc iirc. There's only so much you can compensate for with a safc.

[OneJoeZee]

That's interesting.

In that case, I think Jay would definately greatly benefit from a standalone for his setup.

I was banking on his cams but the results from his numerous adjustments there didn't add up and I was stumped for a bit.

[bigaaron]

And Jay does need as much torque as he can get to smoke all those Mustangs and Camaros.......Alabama Supra style!

[Adrian98]

you got one of these stingers at the shop?
jon and I are coming by today

[suprahero]

Like 30% adjustments in areas?



Try 50%, I could live with 30%.................:nono:

I think the cams and the ported head are the reasons for my low compression. I"ll try and fix one thing at a time. Hopefully this is the correct way to go.

[OneJoeZee]

Yeah man, 50% is way too much for an AFC alone. Your timing is probably way out of wack in all of those areas.

The more fuel you pull with an AFC, the more your timing increase.

At 50%, me thinks your knock sensors are probably at Defcon 1.

[Van Diesel]

Yes, I believe you are correct sir. The injectors are 624cc iirc. There's only so much you can compensate for with a safc.

ain't that the truth. And people don't understand why I spent good money on a standalone.

[Adrian98]

standalones are F*cking awesome

[namkiii]

now does this ecu have a two step built in?

[bigaaron]

Yes, it has both a two step and anti lag! You can not do both at the same time, but you run the input wire to a toggle switch or to the clutch switch to trigger it, and choose which one you want in the software.

[speed]

Curious, can the stinger control meth injection properly?

[bigaaron]

That I need to look into, I haven't used meth before..........well maybe one time back in high school... :biglaugh:

[namkiii]

i mean who hasnt in high school lol /looks away

[5uprahboy]

What did you use for your water temp calibration?
I dont suppose you could post the numbers you've got in your calibration table?

[suprahero]

I got my plug and play Stinger Standalone today. I'm hoping to get it tuned thursday night, but I'm not sure if I can get in the dyno yet. They're trying to get a car finished up. If there is any way possible for me to get on the dyno then I will be there. Hopefully I can get my timing issues figured out and up my boost to about 25psi with some race gas. If I don't make 500rwhp somehow, Duane is going to kill me and bury me out in a snow filled ditch in Canada somewhere.............:aigo:

[OneJoeZee]

I don't think you should have a problem cracking 500 now, Jay.

[5uprahboy]

I got my plug and play Stinger Standalone today. I'm hoping to get it tuned thursday night, but I'm not sure if I can get in the dyno yet. They're trying to get a car finished up. If there is any way possible for me to get on the dyno then I will be there. Hopefully I can get my timing issues figured out and up my boost to about 25psi with some race gas. If I don't make 500rwhp somehow, Duane is going to kill me and bury me out in a snow filled ditch in Canada somewhere.............:aigo:

500! WOW that's a lot!

Good luck with that!
Mine's going on the dyno tomorrow - hoping for over 300rwhp. Idealy upwards of 350rwhp but we'll see...

[OneJoeZee]

He's already close. He's already got around 450 with an AFC pwning his timing trying to handle pretty large injectors.

A good tune, some race gas, enough boost, and 500 shouldn't be a big issue.

[5uprahboy]

He's already close. He's already got around 450 with an AFC pwning his timing trying to handle pretty large injectors.

A good tune, some race gas, enough boost, and 500 shouldn't be a big issue.

Oh right - well 450 with a AFC will be an easy 500 with the stinger :)

[da89soup]

Hopefully I can get my timing issues figured out and up my boost to about 25psi with some race gas. If I don't make 500rwhp somehow, Duane is going to kill me and bury me out in a snow filled ditch in Canada somewhere.............:aigo:

Well the fact you told Duane you hate all Canadian's cant help with the killing very much????:biglaugh:

Jay called me today right when he got it and he seems ready to see what the Stinger is going to do for him. Hopefully this is the solution for Jay??? Just another great product and service from our friends at driftmotion.:icon_bigg

[5uprahboy]

If anyone's wondering - here's a fuel/ignition map for a 1G with 7M injectors.
Its a bit rich but it'll get you to the dyno. Also on this page is the water temp calibration file. I made it the other day

http://www.supras.co.nz/temp/

[suprahero]

Please elaborate on the water temp calibrations. I'm hoping to tune Thursday night and I want to know as much as possible about this standalone. Thanks.


I don't think you should have a problem cracking 500 now, Jay.

Thanks Joe.

500 here I come..................:x:

[5uprahboy]

Please elaborate on the water temp calibrations. I'm hoping to tune Thursday night and I want to know as much as possible about this standalone. Thanks.


500 here I come..................:x:

The numbers are irrelivant, I have no idea what they mean.

Basically the Stinger adjusts the fuel somewhat depending on the water, and therefore engine, temperature.

Here's how I did it

I put 3/4 antifreeze and water in the freezer to get it to as cold as I could (which was about -10C)

I bought a $30 multimeter that does temp
I brought a pot of oil to 160degree's C on the stove (measured with the multimeter's temp sensor.
Took the pot downstairs, took out my water temp sender, while leaving it plugged in, put it in the pot of oil, with my multimeter's temp probe.

As the temp dropped from 150, 140, 130 etc, all the way down to about 60C I would press "Accept reading" on the stinger's calibration page, making sure I was on the water temp sensor tab, and the appropriate temp box was highlighted. Be careful here as if you press accept reading, the highlight moves to the right!!
I would also stir the oil a bit just to make sure the readings were accurate.
Once at about 60 degree's, the tempof the oil was starting to drop very slowly so I used water from here. Using hot tap water and mixing normal tap water I did 50, 40, 30 then 20C. Then I used my -10C antifreeze mix and worked upwards, -10C, then add a bit of tap water to get it to 0, then a bit more to get it to 10. Making sure you're stirring all the time so the water temp is consistant!

Thats about it.
It takes a bit of time, mainly hanging around waiting for the oil to cool - but it's worth it.

As I said, each temp sensor may be different as over time they can start to put out different numbers, so my calibration file is just a guide.

[bigaaron]

Nice work!!! I did my calibration files like that too. The GM air temp sensor is called "Holden" in the calibration files. Most of the ones I tried were pretty close, but the way you did it would be the most accurate. The temperature sensor input can also be used to switch aux outputs on or off, so it is important for it to be fairly accurate.

[5uprahboy]

Nice work!!! I did my calibration files like that too. The GM air temp sensor is called "Holden" in the calibration files. Most of the ones I tried were pretty close, but the way you did it would be the most accurate. The temperature sensor input can also be used to switch aux outputs on or off, so it is important for it to be fairly accurate.

Yeah you're right about it being important. Doesn't the ECU adjust a little depending on the engine temp? Or is that only air temp that it adjusts a little for? I haven't calibrated my air temp sensor yet. Can I do that in the same way with water? Or will that be in-accurate as water's denser than air?

[suprahero]

Here are my results from the dyno thursday night. I will tell you it took a while to tune, but not because of the Stinger. I strapped my car on the dyno at 12:25 p.m. and I didn't leave until 2:15 a.m. I was having problems with my spark plugs and my coil packs. I started out with my NGK 6097's gapped to .028 and my car would break up at 4300rpm. We then took them out and gapped them to .030 to see if it caused any difference. It didn't, so we took the coil packs off and fixed a few naked places in the wired and did some soldering on a couple others. We also gapped the sparkplugs to .020 and the car ran like a champ. All of these pulls were at 21psi. I tried to raise the boost up but the car was breaking up again with more boost. I need to find some good coilpacks or maybe some aftermarket coilpacks. Here are the dyno sheets.
This first one shows the best pull I did right before the Chicago meet versus yesterdays pull. Both of these are at 21psi, but the better one is with the Stinger and the other is stock ecu with SAFCII. At 4900 rpm I picked up 85.6rwhp and 90.9 rwtq.......................:evil2:
http://i23.tinypic.com/w86jxx.jpg
This one is the best pull that I have made with my car so far.
Sorry for the huge pictures.
http://i21.tinypic.com/iqipu1.jpg

[OneJoeZee]

At 4900 rpm I picked up 85.6rwhp and 90.9 rwtq.......................:evil2:

Edit: trying to get them to upload, but it says wrong file type.

Told you...:icon_surp

:)

[da89soup]

Well done Jay!!!

[IJ.]

Ohhhh lookie there it's just like Torque only smaller :D

Well done J!

[suprahero]

IJ you've got to admit that's the largest small torque you've ever seen........;)

Thanks Ryan. It only took fourteen hours of dyno time to accomplish that.............:biglaugh:

[IJ.]

LMAO nah it's the Mediumest ;)

[suprahero]

LMAO nah it's the Mediumest ;)

I can live with that. It's almost like a compliment...............:biglaugh:

[IJ.]

Almost :)

[bigaaron]

YAY! So you can really feel that on the street right?!?

Stock 1jz ECU + single turbo + AFC/E-Manage = FTL

[upgradedsupra]

Nice Jay!

I am not gonna say congrats because the hp is not high as it should or can be ;) Motivation enough for ya?!! :biglaugh:

It is 11 AM and coming home from watching some racing tonight and now back out to garage to try and get mine running.! 4 hours shy of a 24 hour day for me being awake.

Duane

[suprahero]

Nice Jay!

I am not gonna say congrats because the hp is not high as it should or can be ;) Motivation enough for ya?!! :biglaugh:

Duane
I'm working on it non stop Duane, well not exactly non stop, maybe every now and then or when I don't have anything better to do.........:biglaugh:
I'm trying to resourse either some aftermarket coilpacks or some new 2jz coilpacks. That should be all I need to make about 525rwhp, barely sqeeking over the required numbers................:biglaugh:



Nice Jay!

It is 11 AM and coming home from watching some racing tonight and now back out to garage to try and get mine running.! 4 hours shy of a 24 hour day for me being awake.

Duane

Crystal meth FTMFW!!!!!!!!!!....................:biglaugh:

Aaron, you can definately feel it in every gear, and I love how strong fifth gear is now. It runs so much better when my AEM wideband doesn't look like this all the time "10.0"

[tissimo]

nice jay! big improvment in powerband! why does it say 90-105? octane? might still be concervative.. what were the timing #s at 21 psi?

[rakkasan]

Nice Jay! I had very similar results last Wednesday. I hit 472whp @ 20.3psi. While looking at the duty cycle after the pull though, it was up around 95%. Oops! We pushed the boost back down to 17psi & hit 448whp with 80% duty cycle. Nothing printed, but I do have it video'd, so I'll download it tonight & post it....

I'm looking into DIS-4, second walbro & larger injectors, probably 680's & top feed rail. I want to hit 501whp. It will require race gas, that's for certain....

[rakkasan]

YAY! So you can really feel that on the street right?!?

Stock 1jz ECU + single turbo + AFC/E-Manage = FTL

Now that I have a good tune, I can feel the hell out of it on the street. Massive difference! It's much, much smoother too.

[rakkasan]

Nice work!!! I did my calibration files like that too. The GM air temp sensor is called "Holden" in the calibration files. Most of the ones I tried were pretty close, but the way you did it would be the most accurate. The temperature sensor input can also be used to switch aux outputs on or off, so it is important for it to be fairly accurate.

Damn, I'm glad this came up. Although my tune is good when the car is warm, it still runs too rich when I first start driving. I never thought to calibrate the temp sensor.....

[suprahero]

nice jay! big improvment in powerband! why does it say 90-105? octane? might still be concervative.. what were the timing #s at 21 psi?

I kept having trouble with the coils breaking down so I had lowered the duty cyle on my AVCR, but once I changed the gap in my plugs, I raised it back up to where it was. That's what I run my car on at a daily basis which is about 20-21psi.

Mark, it's really cool the way we're making about the same power. I'm about a pound higher in boost than you and I'm making about six more horsepower. What was your tourque. I'm sure it's higher than my 396.

EDIT:I'm pretty sure my timing was at 16degrees @ 21psi.

[tissimo]

wow really? 93 octane right? i was extremely conservative with my aem on my single 1j.. I ran 13* of timing @ 17-18 psi, haha

Nice man! you going to go to texas this year? I want to see your car in person... I'll have my blue car there as well :)

[suprahero]

I don't know if we're going to Texas or not. Chicago was a long long trip and Texas is about another six hours further. I haven't voted it out yet, but it's just a long ways to drive. If you're coming from Florida then it's going to be even further for you. Do you still live in Florida?

[tissimo]

I don't know if we're going to Texas or not. Chicago was a long long trip and Texas is about another six hours further. I haven't voted it out yet, but it's just a long ways to drive. If you're coming from Florida then it's going to be even further for you. Do you still live in Florida?
yea, still in fl.. do it.. its not that bad of a drive..

[cruzinbill]

hmm.... annnnnnny chance at all of getting a plug-N-play setup for the soarer 1j harness?

[bigaaron]

hmm.... annnnnnny chance at all of getting a plug-N-play setup for the soarer 1j harness?

Possibly...... I would just need the Soarer connector that is in the ECU.

[cruzinbill]

nice ill try to source one up! Its between this or getting a soarer to usdm 2jztge adapter harness and running and aem. Any clue where i may be able to locate the plug?

[jugodegolf]

Aaron,

Hey do you guys have plug/play harness for 2jzgte

George

[bigaaron]

I am going to get something for the 2jzgte going, I've been getting enough requests now that I think we should go ahead and do it.

[jugodegolf]

I am going to get something for the 2jzgte going, I've been getting enough requests now that I think we should go ahead and do it.

Just got back from Jay's/suprahero so get mine in the works. Will pm you the info.

George

[empera]

Aaron, did u have or plan to have a 7m PnP harness?

[bigaaron]

Aaron, did u have or plan to have a 7m PnP harness?

I can make the late model harness, but the early model connectors can only be pulled from an old stock ecu. I could do that if you have an ecu you don't want. It could even be from an 7mge ecu.

[empera]

How much would that cost?

[bigaaron]

How much would that cost?

$180 if you can supply an old ecu.

[empera]

yea i got an old ecu...i just need help deciding between the stinger and the AEM EMS, problem is i need to get rid of a bunch of parts before i do so anyway.
I will let u know if i go with the stinger.

[bigaaron]

yea i got an old ecu...i just need help deciding between the stinger and the AEM EMS, problem is i need to get rid of a bunch of parts before i do so anyway.
I will let u know if i go with the stinger.

If you are considering the AEM, also take a look at the 8860, it is more comparable to the AEM in terms of inputs and outputs, but it does cost a bit more then the Stinger.

[WeDgE]

I have an early model 7MGTE harness already made up for the Stinger, if anyone is interested.


I apologize if this is out of line, Aaron...let me know if it is and I will delete it.

[rakkasan]

I think I found something promissing!

http://i21.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/8c/60/62b2_1.JPG

I found this one for under $20 shipped. It could be used for a simple fast idle switch that can be turned on when the engine is cold and/or with the AC.

Hey Aaron, have you played with this thing yet?

[bigaaron]

New high number for Stinger on 1jz with pnp harness is 527whp!!! :aigo: Nice job Mark!!!

I have that valve here, just need to test it on Dave's car. I'll do that tomorrow!

[rakkasan]

New high number for Stinger on 1jz with pnp harness is 527whp!!! :aigo: Nice job Mark!!!

I have that valve here, just need to test it on Dave's car. I'll do that tomorrow!


Thanks Aaron! There's a few other DM pieces on the car besides *only* the Stinger :sarcasm: .

I'm interested in the valve as I'm sure it will solve the low idle when cold. Also, the top feed kit would be great too, I've already retuened the 680's & put the purple tops back in :icon_frow

[bigaaron]

I have a different valve I will be sending Mark to test out, it has a bracket and NPT pipe fittings so installation will be easier. It has a metal body so it will be durable, and it was designed to be able to be installed in a hot engine bay. It increased the idle on our 1jz test by about 300 rpm when open. It can be switched on with coolant temp by the Stinger. It would just be y'd into a vacuum fitting on the intake manifold.

[5uprahboy]

I have a different valve I will be sending Mark to test out, it has a bracket and NPT pipe fittings so installation will be easier. It has a metal body so it will be durable, and it was designed to be able to be installed in a hot engine bay. It increased the idle on our 1jz test by about 300 rpm when open. It can be switched on with coolant temp by the Stinger. It would just be y'd into a vacuum fitting on the intake manifold.

Aaron, I would be VERY interested in this. My car idles around the 300-400rpm mark when cold - and I have to get jabbing the throttle if I want to increase the revs (pressing on the gas just bogs and stalls it) - then if I rev it and let it drop, it'll just die haha

Any thoughts on price?

[BAP]

Aaron, this sounds really good. Please keep us posted on how it works out.

Thanks,

Bruce

[jugodegolf]

Any updates on the 2jz plug & play Aaron?

[bigaaron]

The air valve is about $30, they sell it at JC Whitney, it was designed for air horns.

The 2jz harness is on hold until I can find a source for the connectors.

[jugodegolf]

The air valve is about $30, they sell it at JC Whitney, it was designed for air horns.

The 2jz harness is on hold until I can find a source for the connectors.


Any alternatives?

[Idealsupra]

hey aaron...i did some searching and couldnt find if you ever were able to get the 89+ PnP harness for the stinger done up? and if so how much? thanks! awesome work!

[bigaaron]

2jz connectors located!!! I am ordering some today and get going on the 2jz harnesses! Stay tuned!