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[coreybear08]

hey idk if this has been covered but i DID use the search button and came up with nothing....

my supra is a 89 targa turbo and it has a total of 6 speakers in their...

i know the fronts are 4" and the rears are 5 1/4".....does anyone know about the middle set and does anyone have a 6 speaker set up in their supra?? every website and book ive looked through say that it doesnt have 6 speakers...so if im the only one then i guess that woulda kinda be cool...

but just wondering if the middle set was a 3 1/2" and if anyone else has a stock 6 speaker system...

[GotToyota?]

I believe all post-89's had the 6 speaker system, and I actually took off one of the middle speaker covers to see how big they were and I wanted to replace them, but that cover isn't made to come off, and I tore mine to pieces just to see how big they were. I'd say they were 3.5".

-Matt

[bowsercake]

The middle speakers are 3.5" 8ohm. The fronts are 4" 4ohm and the rears ar 5" (not really 5.25) and are 4ohm.

The middle speakers are freeair. You could replace them with aftermarket speakers but it might not sound right. If you have an aftermarket headunit or amp than I would bypass those speakers and get larger ones up front and in back

[coreybear08]

thanks for the info!!!

its greatly appriciated!!

[annoyingrob]

If you have an aftermarket headunit or amp than I would bypass those speakers and get larger ones up front and in back
Or just in front......

[coreybear08]

id rather do it right and do it to both of them.....music is a HUGE part of my life and it isnt very often that people get to combine their hobbies...so i want the sound of my system to be PERFECT!!! amazing highs....and deep low bass....

[blackgraz]

is there anyway you can fit 6.5" speakers in?

[johnathan1]

Technically, I have 10 speakers in my my car...;)

I have a 3-way setup in front, with 5" woofers, 1.5" midranges, and 1" tweeters from a BMW 5 series.

In the rear, I have 5 1/2" JBL's with 1" tweeters in the center, and two 10" subwoofers.

I will be installing an amplifier soon. I think it sounds pretty good. :)

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[Turbo. Targa. Life.]

id rather do it right and do it to both of them.....music is a HUGE part of my life and it isnt very often that people get to combine their hobbies...so i want the sound of my system to be PERFECT!!! amazing highs....and deep low bass....
Umm, if you wanna do it right, then listen to Rob instead of thinking you know everything. Front speakers only creates a proper soundstage, also known as "stereo imaging". Think of the last time you were at a concert, and if you haven't been to one, just imagine one; where did all the music come from?--in FRONT of you. Rear speakers are called "rear fill" in the audiophile world, because they're completely unnecessary and just create a "fill" for the rear passengers.

Sorry to come off as cocky, but when you try to act like you know it all, and you obviously don't, you come off as foolish. And before you say it, I do NOT know it all, but I DO know how to create a proper soundstage.

PS--You won't get deep lows from just speakers, hopefully you already knew that though.

[annoyingrob]

is there anyway you can fit 6.5" speakers in?
Actually, YES!

91-92 supras actually came with 6.5s in the doors. You can find some speaker pods from a 91, and fit them into your car, but I would actually recommend that you make your own. The reason being, you will most likely hack up the 91 pods anyways to fit any sort of aftermarkek speaker with some depth in. After all the hacking you had to do to the pods, it would have been easier to just make your own.

Cut a thin sheet of MDF (like 1/2") to the rough opening of the hole in the door, and screw it into the old screw holes. Then take a jugsaw, and cut a hole in the center to fit your 6.5" speaker. That's really all there is to it. Of course, most of the speaker will probably be covered by the door, so you MAY want to find some 91+ door panels with the larger speaker openings. Although, even a partially covered 6.5 will sound better then the stock 4" any day.

id rather do it right and do it to both of them....
Trust me man, if you want to do it right, get rid of the rear speakers, and focus on the fronts :)

I get people sitting in my back seat compliment me on how good the music sounds, and it's only coming out the front.

[Turbo. Targa. Life.]

I see how it is Rob, no props to me for tellin the man to listen to you :icon_razz

:D

[coreybear08]

yah...im not stupid...i know you cant get deep bass from just speakers...

[Turbo. Targa. Life.]

Don't be a smart ass after you get torn a new one, please. I had to assume your knowledge level was...limited, due to your lack of understanding the simple concept of stereo imaging.

EDIT: Oh, and you can get deep bass out of speakers--if you feel like spending a shit ton of money on proper EQs, crossovers, amplifiers, etc...There's actually and SPL car with a wall of 6x9's in it :)

[coreybear08]

damn...i must be attracting assholes today....

and ive seriously been thinking about it...id rather have surround sound than "concert sound"

if you stop to think about it, wouldnt you rather be engulfed by sound than just have it coming from the front?? look at all the modern systems coming in cars today...lexus now has a 17 speaker system in some of the 07' line up...im seriously not trying to be a dickhead here but to me car audio has to be all around...even concert halls are made so they reflect sound from the walls and fill the room with music

[EdgeSupra]

Want good car audio? Sell your Supra and buy some cheesy 4 door sedan that you can pack speakers into, Mr. Surround Sound.
Listen to Brandon and annoyingrob.

*hands mic back to TTL*

[coreybear08]

hey mods...if ur reading this...please close this thread...my question was answered...and this is soon to be 2 pages of bashing...

oh...fyi...my question was if anyone else had a 6 speaker system and if they knew what size that middle speaker was...NOT how do i make a nice sounding sound system...

[Turbo. Targa. Life.]

ROFL @ Justin

Dude, surround sound is basically a way to compensate for proper acoustics. Being an audiophile though, I can tell you it is 99.9% impossible to get true acoustics in a vehicle. If you want surround sound, good on ya; be aware though, most CD's are NOT recorded in surround, only stereo. :)

[Turbo. Targa. Life.]

Umm...no. Just...no. Please stop talking, you're hurting my head.

Using front speakers only (when powered only by the deck) does NOT give more power to the front speakers.

More speakers does NOT necessarily mean more sound. More volume, maybe, depends on how much cone area.

If you direct your front speakers right (very hard to do) you'll never even HEAR where the sound is coming from, if you close your eyes it should be like the band/artist/whatever is sitting right in front of you. Granted, this requires time, money, and attention to detail, which it seems like VERY few people here have for audio.

[coreybear08]

duh...we get nice speakers...throw them in...wire up an amp subs and a clean headunit...and then....

we spend the money on headgaskets!!

[ValgeKotkas]

If you direct your front speakers right (very hard to do) you'll never even HEAR where the sound is coming from. Granted, this requires time, money, and attention to detail, which it seems like VERY few people here have for audio.
Last time I checked I didn't have a christmas-money tree...:icon_bigg And I already have a 4x45W headunit(goddamn, that was expensive), and I guess 2 speaker system would need a special HU?... So i prefer 4-speaker system:icon_bigg, soon gonna look for something better than my almost-stockers :icon_razz

[GotToyota?]

I like my simple setup in mine, a Kenwood headunit with about 20W RMS to each speaker, not too shabby, but I'd like to get more power to the front speakers. I have 4" Infinity References in the front, and Alpine Type S's in the rear, 5.25" of course, but I only used those to get what you guys have called "rear fill". I plan on getting a small 2 channel amp to power the front speakers, giving them about 40-50W RMS, then I also plan on adding a small 10" powered subwoofer to add that right amount of bass (I'm not one to like alot of thump, so something very clear, subtle, and not so loud is perfect, in my opinion. The setup should be very nice.

-Matt

[annoyingrob]

and as for cone area different size cones are better for different sound like a 15" cones would sound like shit if used with high-lows its just not made for that thats why i am getting a 10s its good all around has nice high-lows and low-lows
Actually, tecnically speaking, that's not correct. Cone size really only affects the efficiency of a speaker. Moving mass affects the frequency range. I have 18" drivers at home that are designed for midrange usage, and have a 98db sensitivity.

A properly designed 8" speaker can play a broader spectrum then a poorly designed 15. Diameter has NO affect on playing high or low. A larger cone can usually play lower frequencies more efficiently, but choosing a 10 over a 12 or 15 because you think it will play better is completely wrong.

You choose a speaker that will fit into the space you want, then you find a manufacturer that makes one that will play to the specifications you want.




Of course, I think this is just going to start another flame war.

[Turbo. Targa. Life.]

yeah you dont have to be rude about it, i may have used the wrong words but i do know what im talking about i never said deck power was going to power the 100rmswatt speakers, i need a amp so i can get enough power to the front and if you were to position all speakers right (front,rear side, rear and sub) it would sound even better then just having the front facing you.
So you dont have to act like your the only one who knows a thing about sound and how the waves work its what im going to college for.

and as for cone area different size cones are better for different sound like a 15" cones would sound like shit if used with high-lows its just not made for that thats why i am getting a 10s its good all around has nice high-lows and low-lows
Once again, UM NO. I think it may be time to look for a new college, or maybe stay awake in class and put the reefer down. Do a little research on stereo imaging. A proper soundstage is created with FRONT speakers.

The rest of your post is garbage-gargle and has already been denounced by Rob, so I won't even touch it.

[Turbo. Targa. Life.]

Last time I checked I didn't have a christmas-money tree...:icon_bigg And I already have a 4x45W headunit(goddamn, that was expensive), and I guess 2 speaker system would need a special HU?... So i prefer 4-speaker system:icon_bigg, soon gonna look for something better than my almost-stockers :icon_razz

Sorry to bring this back from the dead, but I thought I'd clarify something for Valge :)

Running 2 speakers only can be done 1 of 2 ways:
1.) Using Deck power only: Turn the Fader to the front all the way OR cut the leads coming out of the wiring harness that go to the rear speakers

2.) Using amplifier power: The way I wire a 2/4-channel into a car is through the wiring harness. You cut the wires going from the harness into the radio, then solder the wires from the 4ch amp back into the wiring harness, leaving the side going into the radio to hang. Now, when you go to do this with a 2 channel amp (for fronts only) you just only use the front speaker wires on the harness! Easy enough right? :)