Group A's group a rebuild

[group a supra]

here we are ladies and gents the gt42r has turned up so i ca get cracking now tba on the build up is a year but hell this will be worth it target is 9 sec quarters tell me all what you think

[group a supra]

the gt42r and 4 inch exhaust

[streetknight]

wow. what are the specs on the internals?

[group a supra]

internal specs are as follows
gpa block all internally polished
gpa head ported polished
gpa crank, rods trd mahle short skirt pistons
gpa bearings shells
stainless valves
gpa cams 284 duration 12.5 mm lift
gpa magnesium pulleys
gpa non a/c bottom pulley dampened
16 row mocal oil cooler engine
12 row mocal oil cooler pas
blitz sus filter
currently building 4 inch hard pipe kit yet to order bigger intercooler
in car stainless tank being built as we speak
loads more just need some one to remind me
oh yes building new loom foe motec m48

[group a supra]

a work of art just gotta make the loom work

[SupraOfDoom]

How much power are you expecting to make with that Turbo? Those are just crazy!

[group a supra]

I Was Kind Of Hoping To Make And Break 1000rwhp Its A Tall Order But I Have The Right Engine Spec And Accilaries Oops Spelt That Wrong So Just Lots Of Hard Work An Ensure That It Will Survive 30+ Pounds If Boost By Getting The Fueling And Lagging Everything To Keep Temps Down

[drjonez]

wow. must be nice to have all those super-crazy parts....i think if you get things tuned right 1krwhp isn't out of the question....though you'll probably have to rev past 7500 or so to make any use of that turbo....maybe i should go run the compressor map....

either way, sweet parts. get it all put together right!

[group a supra]

Thanks Dr I Will Incedentley We Will Be Going To 8.5k As Group A Cams Require Shim Under Bucket Which We Have In Place Already But Nice To Have The Approval Of A Respected Member Of The Forum
Have Also Changed The Springs To Much Higher Rating To Avoid Any How One Might Say Bounceage

[shaeff]

valve floating.

-shaeff

[IJ.]

GrpA: LMAO couldn't find a bigger Turbo? :D
(What are you doing for an IC that HKS one doesn't look up to the job as the in and outs look like 75mm?)

I love it and will follow this thread closely thanks for posting!

[group a supra]

Ij You Are Dead Right Need Bigger Intercooler Having Same Width And Hight But 4 Inch Depth
And You Wernt Far Out Tubing Was 70 Mm All Through From My Old T04 E And Thanks For The Compliment Will We Have A Thread That Lasts For The Whole Of Build Up Hope So

[group a supra]

Forgot Just Finished Moding Oilfilter Housing To Accept -8 Fitttings Instead Of Those Poxy Push On Crap And Fiddlin About With Clips

[IJ.]

GrpA: I remember seeing an IC that had dual 3" in and outs somewhere and was thinking this might be an alternative with a nice Y pipe from the 4" to the dual 3".

Not going to be a fun job routing the 4" pipes no matter how you go about it ;)!

Thought you would have ditched the pressure based cooler circuit for a temp based one?

[group a supra]

Well I Thought About It Then Changed My Mind I Might Go And Change The Oil Cooler Again Though For A 36 Row Ill Be Able To Keep An Eye On It As I Will Be Running The Obligatory Gauges
But I Am Going To Loose The Water Pump As Going For Davies Craig Elecric Job With Dash Operated Temp Control Radiator Will Be Flu Or Pwr Going To Make Custom Alloy Fan Housings And Try To Squeeze 2 13 Inch 2800cfm Jobs In If Gets Hot Then Well Hell I Dont Know

[IJ.]

I use an NA filter mount then go out to a remote filter and oil cooler with a T Stat in line, the pressure based system is assbackwards as it's bypassing the oil to the cooler when it's cold and thick ;)!

[group a supra]

Fair Point Might Look Into That When Its Built But At The Min Have So Much To Do Cant Cope With To Many Thoughts
By The Way Did You Notice That As Far As I Know And Thanks To Supragirl (suze) I Think I Have The Only Uk Car Ie Not Imported With 89+ Tailights Result
I Am Also Going With 4 Inch Tube For Inlet Cause I Like A Challenge And Think I Have Sorted A Root Out
Has Anyone Else Gt42r Ed A 7m

[IJ.]

LOL the oiling system is the one place I'd spend as much time on as needed now as it's about the only real achillies heel in the 7M (apart from the HG)!

I also run a Moroso 3qt accumulator T'd into the main line into the oil gallery (just in case)

I still crak up each time I see the Compressor out on a 42 :)! (man that's HUGE)

Isn't the Compressor in 5"?

Suze notices these things!

[group a supra]

Right Ij The Specs Are As Follows
Exhaust 4 Inch
Cold Side To Intercooler 4 Inch
And Airfilter Inlet 5 Inch
Might Have To Buy Secon Blitz Sus Filter Not Sure One Will Cope But Then Again Not Sure If Ill Have Room For Second
Sometimes I Wish I Had Not Made That 4 Inch Exhaust Cause That Is What Started It All Actually Thinking About Glad I Did

[IJ.]

I was looking at mine yesterday when I got the front off and if you moved the washer bottle to the hatch you build a nice air box in there then run a piece of 5" silicone down from the turbo in.....

[group a supra]

Yeah That Had Crossed My Mind Still Undecided As To What To Do There Got To Cut My Manifold Up Yet Want Raise The Turbo About 5 Inches And Bring It Forward 6 Inches To Get Clearence For Downpipe Then Look At The Airfilter Else It Aint Going To Work Full Stop
Desperatley Want To Make It The Quickest And Most Powerfull Road Legal Mkiii World Wide
So Have Also Stripped Everthing Out Of It No Inner Bumpers Rooflining Sound Deading Nothing Target Is 1krwhp 1250kg Weight
What You Think

[IJ.]

It's going to be a juggling act to get the 42 in there being RHD!

I'd even consider a forward mount so it sits out where the stock airbox was.

Not sure how much weight can be removed but 1250 seems awefully light for a Mk3! (Think mines closer to 1750 ;) )

If you can get it to 1250 and 1000hp it's going to be awesome!

What is the intended use?

[group a supra]

The Road

[IJ.]

LMAO whoo hoooo :D!

Traction is going to be a HUGE issue!

[group a supra]

No Seriously Will Be On Road But Also Track Days As Well As Some Great British Drag Racing My Friend Adrian Runs A Corolla With 4wd 3sgte 2.1 Gt35/42r And Around 800rwhp Runnin 10s On1/4 Plus 200mph Standing 1.25 Mile And I Dont Like Being Beaten

[IJ.]

LOL I repeat "traction is going to be a problem" ;)

Can't think of road tires that will even go close to hooking 1000 hp up!

Slicks at the strip should do the job and at your goals I think it's going to be close with the Rolla if he launches hard!

I'm really looking forard to more of this build and maybe some video of the WindMill winding up!!

[group a supra]

Very Funny The Windmill Will Do Just Fine As For Traction 285/30/18 Rear 265/35/18 Front Yokahama's Not Ordered Them Yet Spent 5k Uk Money On It Last 2 Months If You Know What I Mean So Parts As Cash Avaliable Job In All Fairness Ran 500rwhp On Yokis That Are On At Min 225/50/16 And Wasnt As Bad As You Might Think
I Know Ill Consult The Windmill

[IJ.]

Hmmmm still not so sure on the traction!

I had a Crower injected 427 BBChev way back when and had no chance hooking it up with 295/50/15's!

@ 100 KPH in drive it would light the rears at will and I doubt it was making much over 600 at the wheels!

Going to be real interesting anyway!
(Almost to the poing of dropping over for a look once it's done!)
(know exactly what you mean about the $ I've dropped a bundle in the last few months)

[group a supra]

Well If You Want A Week In Er Not Quite So Warm Weather You Are Welcome
Traction Er See What Happens When It Runs Long Way Away Yet If You Know What I Mean
Dont Want To Buy My T04e With Adapter Plate Do You
Only Kidding
Dam Car Is Going To Ruin Me
Got All Supension To Change Again
And Cant Even Look At Brakes Till Get 18" Wheels Cause Wont Fit Expensive Brakes Aint They

[IJ.]

Spent some time in the UK when I was younger so I understand the not so warm weather ;)!

Pass on the adaptor!!

It will take time and as you're finiding when you get above the 500ish hp level EVERYTHING is a factor and you can't cut corners!
(Speed costs! how fast do you want to go?)

I get a laugh at a lot of guys that think 600+ is going to be as easy as bolting on a big arse turbo!

[group a supra]

Tell Me About It Good Years Worth Of Work Yet And Been On It Nearly One Now Wish It Was That Easy Took Ages To Make Inlet Manifold
Exhaust Took 3 Weeks As Well But It Will Be Worth It In The End I Hope
Well It Will Be But Need To Put About 10k Into It Yet English Money Decided Its Not Done Till Its Done If You Knoe What I Mean It Will Proabaly Owe Me 50 K In The End
To Hell With It Cant Buy A Performance Car Out Showroom That Will Do What This Does When Done So I Shall Plough On

[SupraOfDoom]

Where did you find all the group a parts?

[group a supra]

well i dropped on the parts by accident really in the uk you know you hear a rumour turns out not to be true this turned out to be spot on a deal was struck and the only part which i regret noe that i did not have is the magnesium sump and hey presto here we are

[Chris-Supra]

Yeesh man, that turbo is weaksauce, I think you need a bigger one-

(jokes)

[group a supra]

thanks chris ill bear that in mind when im trying to squeeze it in if i find an extra couple of mm ill let you know who elses car it's in
take it you approve then

[group a supra]

here we go what you think finished bottom half of the powersteering hoses in -8 goodridge

[Slow66]

Desperatley Want To Make It The Quickest And Most Powerfull Road Legal Mkiii World Wide


Not gonna happen if i have anything to say about it :)

Project looks good man, cant wait to see the #s.

[IJ.]

Maybe twin 42's would make Chris happy :)! <jk>

[group a supra]

slow wouldn worry yet lot of work to do before any times and figures appear but appreciate that you have taken time to have a look
still not worked out the exact position for the gt42r but not far of think found a way to make it work on rhd

[Chris-Supra]

Hell yes I approve, about time we get more guys stepping up to making big power, aside from the usuals that is. I'll be going with a biggerish turbo this winter hopefully- an sp63 I'm thinking. 500rwhp shouldnt be too hard with it.

thanks chris ill bear that in mind when im trying to squeeze it in if i find an extra couple of mm ill let you know who elses car it's in
take it you approve then

However, I do like this twin 42's idea....

[drjonez]

here we go what you think finished bottom half of the powersteering hoses in -8 goodridge

good stuff. must be nice to have such a short run to the PS rack!

[group a supra]

chris what you mean twin gt42r's
dont know where to put the first one yet
but it is anice thought
trouble is you would need a 6 inch exhaust where you put that or two 4's

[group a supra]

dr jonez as a respected person im glad you like my work
thanks no improvments today afraid long hours of work and big night out in order

[Chris-Supra]

Jokes man jokes :)

Very badass setup though, even one gt42 is more power than I'll be making anytime in the near or distant future.

[scottiedawg66]

wow. you are gonna punk everyone. nice work, good luck, please keep us updated.

~scott

[group a supra]

scottie thanks your thoughts are appreciated


right i need to swap my injectors got 680cc now i have worked out that i need 1200cc so fine but which are going to be the most reliable to replace my densos
with out being silly on the money cause i have lots to buy
anyone done anything with precision or rc they seem decent money wise

[group a supra]

right just rpositioned the oil cooler which you can see sits nicely with my new pas cooler

[group a supra]

also have now dumped th back bumper insert along with the front on in an effort to get under 1300 kg and fuel tank has also now gone as to make way for alloy in car one
what you all reckon can we make it any lighter
have also lost elec radio mast and rear wiper

[siman]

Great work man!

Looks like your doing more tearing down than building up right now though LOL.

Massive turbo...big 3 liter inline 6....=power.

Hope you hit the 9's too! That would be lovely!

-Jonathan

[ippyness]

looks awesome.. rust sucks :( but nice car :D

[group a supra]

ippy at least the rust is only on the bolt on bit the dosent have any at all shell wise

sim thank for the approval i will be going for it i think ive done the tearing down now so as fund arrive and i finish all my fabrication manifold and so on it will be back to bolt on goodies at last startin to do my head in making everything

[group a supra]

have turbo positioned someone cant remember who did say would need to mod inner wing and bulkhead looks like i wont have to touch it just have to make the runners from flange on head to collector over next week or to gonna take a while because ther is only mm's to spare
any thoughts on this input is always appreciated

[northsupra]

:eek3: That's all..

Damn that's huge!

[Adjuster]

This is what I did to improve on the basic 7M oil system. (Turbo pump, machined to accept a BSP 20mm 90 fitting to AN10 across to another BSP20/AN10 at the rail.)

Plugged the hole going to the normal filter spin on area, used the NA pressure port casting area to fit a NPT 1/2" to AN10 (But if I did it again, I'd use another BSP 20 since they don't stress the block like a compression fitting does, and there is plenty of material on the port casting to seal up the BSP fitting.)
At the return to the galley, the stock thread is BSP 20, so that works out great.
Other stuff no pictured is all AN10 lines to and from the filter and cooler. (And to really clean the oil, I also plumbed in a bypass filter, but that's running AN4 line.)

The accusump is in the back, being used as a speaker grille :)

I agree wtih IJ, the oil system mods can't be overlooked. Cheap insurance for a nice engine in my opinion. (Expensive, but cheaper than a rebuild.)

Nice engine your building up.

If your not going to run the stock fuel tank, why not just run a straight pipe back to the muffler, and put it directly behind the turbo? (Cut the rear cover, you have plenty of room to do that.) Also some holes to let the air pressure out of the cover like Maseo did will help with your top end speed at the track, or elsewhere. (Just does not look great, but it works.)
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y156/Adjuster/7MGTE/PICT0091.jpg

[group a supra]

adjuster i got to say that handsome engine you got there i may look at that when i have fabricated everything at moment concentrating on the turbo and relevant pipe work + fuel system when i have got it all right i am i know going to tear the engine out have whole car repainted in its 206 black paint and engine bay whilst thats out theres a couple of things i am not happy with engine wise and i will address these then but your input is most helpfull thankyou please drop some notes on here as and when you can alway appreciate help cause two head are better than so as to speak
today have finishe cutting up tubular exhaust manifold so next few days it should be ready for welding in new runners then that 42 will be bolted on properley.

[Adjuster]

Thanks, I'd just like to see your GroupA motor make 1000rwhp :) and these oil mods are not too difficult to do while the engine is out, but pretty much impossible in the car. (Best option there is a spin on adapter to route oil to your Mocal cooler and external filter.)

Problem is that still leaves the restrictive size holes and lines from the pump to the outside of the motor. (Starts at the pump, sharp edges at the port where the gears push the oil out, then the banjo fitting to the hard cross over pipe, and the smallish hole/bore up to the filter cast boss. These all contribute at higher RPM to restriction that forces the pump bypass open sooner than it should I think.) Common theory is the pump bypasses at about 40psi. Then the cooler bypass at the filter adapter sends more oil away from the bearings to the cooler.
These mods turn the stock pump into a very high flow unit, with little resitrictions either at the pump, or in the fitting ID size. The filter, cooler and other fittings are all AN10 or better. (Actually had to drill and tap the RX7 cooler to fit AN10 lines with no reduction of ID. AN8 would be a direct fit.) Also machined the pump housing for the AN10, and ported the inlet to smooth flow where possible. The pump bypass is shimmed about 14mm. With cold oil at startup, 80psi is on the Accusump gauge. (I don't think my stock gauge is accurate, it reads 70 one day, and 40 the next...) Time for a good Omori gauge.

I also have a seperate cooler for the PS system, just used the stock oil cooler :) (Was going to use a GM truck trans cooler, but it was too large, 24 row I think, to fit in available space anymore.)

I'll have to shoot a photo or two of the completed project now that the motor is in the car, but where your running no AC, and have that extra room where the condensor was, it should be very simple to run your coolers and lines plus the 4" wide FMIC your talking about. (Mine is just a 3" wide unit.)

Is that an Ebay manifold your using as the base for your GT42? I have been kicking around the idea of using a GT40 on this motor, but as of yet, have not spent the money to do it. (Would need larger injectors, as I'm only on 550's now, or go with two sets of injectors, the 550's and a set of stock 440's and another walbro pump to feed them while the Eman controlls them.)

Between your build, and IJ's, there are some interesting things going on in the community. Here's some more eye candy, with my small bolt on T4 for now. (The rest of the powdercoated stuff was not on, like the chain straps, but that's all red too.)
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y156/Adjuster/7MGTE/PICT0096.jpg

[group a supra]

adjuster yes that was an ebay manifold got it from custom chrome 424 dollars at time thought it will turn to be pile of crap at that money how wrong can one be it was actualy pretty damn good for the money but i only wanted for the flange and collectors so i could redesign it all for myself internaly my will look bit like hks cast one in stainless when done

[siman]

How much HP did the Group A circuit cars run anyways?


.....I am sure they had metal headgaskerts too :rofl:

[Adjuster]

From what I remember, they were just under 700hp for the Group A, 1000cc injectors, and still running a version of the CT26... :)

There is a link somewhere that covers the car, and the oil pan etc.

I'd guess with that cam setup, it's got quite the idle, and sounds pretty mean running too.

[group a supra]

gpa cars use to run about 560 580hp with modded ct26 not when you think how small that turbo is

[group a supra]

adjuster you onna bout these pics presume you meant flywheel i was talking at the wheels power wise

[siman]

From what I remember, they were just under 700hp for the Group A, 1000cc injectors, and still running a version of the CT26... :)

There is a link somewhere that covers the car, and the oil pan etc.

I'd guess with that cam setup, it's got quite the idle, and sounds pretty mean running too.

SEVEN HUNDRED HORSEPOWER?

HOLY FRIGGEN CRAP! I thought it was more of like 400 max!

I have like 4 old videos of group A supra's giong around tracks...2 of them are the TOMS videos from 1987.

Adjuster....your head looks exactly like mine...the black cam gears and candy pearl red cam covers....

copy cat:biglaugh: ....I actually modeled it after the RB26 colors.

[Adjuster]

LOL, that's under 700... LOL Heck, even 560 with a small turbo is going to be pretty dang fun. (I have no idea where mine's at right now, but it would be nice to see 560 on this turbo/fuel etc.)

[siman]

adjuster you onna bout these pics presume you meant flywheel i was talking at the wheels power wise


come again? :icon_neut

[group a supra]

the reason i know is happen to know the foreman that built the cars and all the celica gpa cars its not what you know but who sometimes

[Adjuster]

That must have been it, crank v/s whp. (With a 15% loss, 700 is 595rwhp estimated.)

Still a crap load of power, and the tourqe must have been pretty good too. (If it was anything like the stock CT powerband.) I know the cams would move that around some, and the "modified" CT26 had to be running larger internal wheels to make this level of power, but still, that engine is pretty amazing for being 1980's tech, on an older block design in a heavy car.

[group a supra]

wait till they get a load of this one i mean think about gpa engine of mine has every part of the block polished internaly then we go crazy take of the normal stuff add big turbo better manifold and tb got to be getting close to1krwhp

[Adjuster]

Did the gpa motor have larger valves and port work done. (IIRC, it did.) Any photos of the head and combustion chambers? I ported mine, and smoothed out many of the sharp edges on the chambers to reduce places for hot spots to occur w/o killing the squish areas. Also un-shrouded the valve seats to smooth flow into and out of the cyc, and remove any potential hot spots too.

I was worried that it would make the engine run uneaven as I had no way of making each chamber exactly the same, but my eyeballs, and patience. (I think I'm pretty close, the engine runs nice and smooth.)Then I coated the chambers with the same coatings used on piston crowns... (And the valves, and the exhaust runners etc.)

I think with the GT42 on there, your cams and head mods bolted onto the hand selected block/crank etc. it will make 1000rwhp with the right fuel, and tune. (Now, the question is, can the rest of the chassis take it. :))

When are you going to do your brakes? I just got done with mine, and it was partially a need, and partialy a safety item. (At these power levels, the stock brakes give up pretty quickly, you can get to 140mph inside of 15 to 20seconds, and that's easy to do pretty much getting on the freeway, or passing other traffic.) Then you have to slow it down, or run over the cars in front of you :) LOL

[group a supra]

suspension and brakes had a mil warm over before when running t04e ie drilled rotors fast road pads and konis all round
but now we are having 355mm discs with six pots up front
we have no abs :icon_bigg
will have tein ra's
ss support bars
roll cage
adj wish bones up front
anti roll bars of course
and 285's up back with 265's up front
and front and rear strut brace's

[SupraMario]

How much this thing going to be worth when your finished with it GPA?

[group a supra]

what in resale terms or what it owes me

[group a supra]

right today have cut rest of tubular manifold up and welded the edge of the flanges together in position with turbo on now turbo is of i will have to start making up all the pipe work man this job is going to suck wish it was left hand drive would be loads easier no pas rack or breaks to worry about

[siman]

right today have cut rest of tubular manifold up and welded the edge of the flanges together in position with turbo on now turbo is of i will have to start making up all the pipe work man this job is going to suck wish it was left hand drive would be loads easier no pas rack or breaks to worry about


thats one thing I NEVER thought about....the right hand drive supra's have the steering rack and turbo crap all on the SAME SIDE....that does have to suck! :icon_surp

[group a supra]

siman its a knightmare but nearly ther now t4 flange welded in location to the body start on the runner tuesday when flexy tube is here in 1.5 inch gonna make em fit in that then mandrel bend them
so tommorrow im going to startt seam welding the shell so i dont miss any bits when making the rollcage a feel a monster spawning in the uk as my mate put it the other day :evil2:

[siman]

so your basically making your own Group A racecar essentially?

One question, how did you get that motor? where did you get it? :icon_surp

[group a supra]

siman you pretty right there but mine wont have any restictions hence the power we is going for the engine came through a tuning company that only does toyota i am friends with the owner he has friends in motorsport and ther just happened to be enough spares to build a last one so as to speak gpa engine only thing i dont have is the sump cause i had not the money at the time wish i had found the money now

[group a supra]

decided not to seam weld shell cause we are going to be there for ever so the roll cage should do enough to stegthen up the shell hopefully.
my flexy pipes to help fab the runners still havent turned up what a surprise but my ally 4 inch elbows for the induction system should be here tommorrow so by tuesday of this week might be getting somewhere
so to kill time we have been doing the old faithfull job of continuing with the new wiring loom what a week

[group a supra]

havent posted for a bit caus waiting for bits to be made but have been busy wiring for those of you that remember how much wiring goes behind the das and fenders check out my new slimmed down loom this is as custom as it gets just waiting on my new fuse box now

[williamb82]

looks baddass, but, question i have, is what are you gonna run for drivetrain to hold 1000rwhp? what trans? and what diff?

[group a supra]

well as far as transmission goes sticking with r154 going to put rps twin plate carbon clutch and flywheel in will shot peen selector forks cause that is the only real weak part as far as i know
diff wise uk ones were better spec so already have oil cooler fitted as standard on the top so should be ok
touch wood

[group a supra]

sorry not posted anything intresting recently been tied up with work and waiting for parts to turn up still.
but little mod today decided to make a new j-tube block of plate just to get another small iritating job out the way decided to go stainless hex bolts to match cam covers and tidy things up also been researching ignition system looks like we are going 2jz coils thanks ron r for the inspiration there by the way and motec cdi 8 ignitor to fire them as it links straight to my m48 ecu any sugestions or thoughts would be appreciated

[group a supra]

no posts recently as been busy racing my zx6r on the track and waiting for parts but at last they have started to turn up custom fuse box has arrived means can start to get move on with the wiring

[group a supra]

started to paint some of the inside now so that can start putting the dash and appropriate parts back in as start to finish of the wiring going with satin black on the inside although i am stopping with 206 on exterior
have now found a home for the new fuse box sat outside as we speak waiting for courier to turn up with all my new wires so can get wiring then hopefully we can get back into some progress again

[IJ.]

GrpA: Good to see it going forward again!

[group a supra]

ij yeah i know just pissed of with waiting for things to turn up :1zhelp:

[IJ.]

Yep know how that feels!

I took 6 weeks off work to do mine and due to parts delays it just didn't happen! ;)

[group a supra]

my problem is i only have one day a week to work on it and if stuff dont arrive im back another week :cry:

[group a supra]

had some more parts turn up today likw wires so have started wiring up my motec at last will post some picks of that soon also had my carbon breather tank turn up and my ex nascar pas resvoir which i think is quite cool as per usual any opinions always appreciated

[IJ.]

GrpA: Does the PS reservoir have a filter screen in it?

[group a supra]

ij wtf is a filter screen when its at home :biglaugh:

[mdr40z]

hmmm, I kinda like that 'log' ffi, you think it'll flow well?

[IJ.]

GrpA: LOL if you look into a Toyota Reservoir it has a fine mesh screen at the bottom to stop large particles getting into the pump!

I run the plastic NA reservoir on mine and was pissed it was $300+ for a new one so spent hours cleaning it out! ;)

[group a supra]

mdrz. it ought to flow well it is 4 inch all the way through and is a massive ammount bigger air capacity than standard
ij. i'll have to check properley it is baffled internaly though

[LuvMySilverSupra]

that is just fuckin incredible. that's shit people on here dream about. even with all the money, some of those things would still be out of reach. thanks for keeping us updated on this....just truely amazing!
+1
-john

[group a supra]

luvmysilversupra
thanks for the compliment incidently it is taking all the money i have and ithink i still have 18 months of work ahead flat out buying parts i will be updating monday / tuesday on motec wiring for you all and other little bits hoping to order gpa turbo duct of geff tuesday so but thats 8-10 weeks delivery but ill see what else i turn up :naughty:

[IJ.]

GrpA: LOL first page of the Supra Manual "Some assembly required"

second page "Warning Money Pit inside" :)!

[group a supra]

ij lmao

such a poetic truth money pit at least you know where to put your wages each month i have now set up direct debit to my engine bay :biglaugh:

[IJ.]

ij lmao

such a poetic truth money pit at least you know where to put your wages each month i have now set up direct debit to my engine bay :biglaugh:
ROFLMAO! :biglaugh:

I need to hook up an EFTpos access point in the bay!!

[group a supra]

i like that ij good idea let me know what the cad drawings look like:biglaugh:

[group a supra]

TONIGHT

got some more motec wiring done and have now found a home for the old motec also all there is to do know is to put on the connectors :1zhelp:

[group a supra]

today

we have rejigged manifold a bit got enough clearence for a radiator now and my fuel tank breather has turned up horaaay :biglaugh:

[group a supra]

ij you wanted to know where the pipe work was going to go well here you are enjoy:biglaugh:

[jt2ma71]

NICE!! Very good work, nice welds too :aigo:

--Ron

[group a supra]

nice to have your approval ron as you are the master so as to speak thanks:icon_bigg

[IJ.]

GrpA: Beautiful work!

I'm still waiting to see where/how you're running the 4" back into the GT42! :)

[group a supra]

ij thanks im glad you like it all will become clear as we get closer to the intercooler but first i have to order it .
ITS GOING TO BE BIG VERY BIG :evil2:

[IJ.]

LOL yep the DD of IC piping ;)!

[group a supra]

core size 24"x12"x6" :biglaugh:

[IJ.]

core size 24"x12"x6" :biglaugh:
WOW Radiator going in the Hatch? ;)!!

You don't have AirCon do you?

[group a supra]

no ive checked it will fit about as tight as the turbo was hoping to order it next month rad will be where it is:biglaugh:

[Slow66]

yeah, it should work....my core is 30x14x4.5,and i got her to fit....and since yours shoudl fit between the framerails, it should go no problem. Hopefully you'll be left with more of a bumper than i was....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/Slow66/IMG_0188.jpg

[group a supra]

slow your right there but i kinda like the look of yours :naughty:

6" deep one will flow 1350cfm so it should be about right for the job :evil2:

[Adjuster]

I think with cores that size, the front bumper/reinforcement bar is not needed for crash protection. The huge size of the core is an excellent impact absorber, and will crush and slow the car down pretty good I'd think. (Especially if you use the stock frame horn mounting points like the old impact bar did, tying the front frame rails together.)

I'm using a smaller FMIC, but have the oil cooler welded up to the end tanks. (About 1/2 inch of attached metal on each tank, otherwise the oil cooler is 1/2 inch away from the intercooler so there should be minimal heat transfer. Also the cooler is on top, and behind of the FMIC, so heat rises, and airflow should be taking any heat away from the FMIC v/s heat soaking it from the hot oil cooler.

If I had just cut the bumper out of the way, it all would have fit in there no problem, but I wanted to maintain what I could of the bumper. I've since realized that to get more airflow over this, the bumper is going to have to be modified, but I want to try and keep the external "look" stock, and undercut the cover/impact bar to make it a bottem breather. It should draw more air up and over the core/cooler yet not look like it has some huge FMIC on there. (Sleeper aspect of my car is somewhat important to me.)

It is tempting to just ditch the setup I have, and go with a huge 4" thick core. (6 inches is even better, and provide better ground clearance due to a lower overall height needed to flow the same amount of air.) That being said, I'm nowhere near exceeding the 750cfm rating of the core I have now. (1350 is awesome.)

One thing to keep in mind. You do need some air for the radiator/condensor. I'm running my AC, and I have used a stock oil cooler for the PS system. I have a fluidyne radiator, and in traffic, with the AC on, the stock fan(s) are not getting the job done. (This is 103f temps.) I changed out the clutch on the fan, but I think the one I got is not much better than the one I had. (New they are too much :) ) The car does not overheat at any speed so far. (With the lower cover in place. W/O the cover, it did climb slightly at over 100mph, but I stopped since I really don't want to overheat the car.

Are any of you guys going to run a custom air dam or splitter/defuser type front undercover? I'm still kicking around the idea, and with the bottem breather mod to the front bumper, it would help to force more air through the radiators/coolers than without it. (And it should make the car more stable at higher speeds too.)

[group a supra]

slow66 where did you get that intercooler from looks familiar in core size

adjuster we have already lost front and rear bumper inserts (crash protectors) any way on mine we are going for as light as possible all round in the quest for street car quick quarters but i will be putting the stength back in in other ways roll cage etc so that shouldnt be issue
as for 1350 cfms going to that size as 4" pipe work from turbo through cooler and also tb so it would be shame to have smaller cooler that is not up to the job
in regards to heating i will go electric water pump adjustable range so again that might solve your problem also :icon_conf

[Adjuster]

Hmm, more flow at idle speeds with the electric pump might just do it, and you remove the drag on the motor at high speeds when you do not really need 6500rpm of drive speed on the water pump. Nice idea.

Is the pump temp based, or are there other parameters like engine rpm or boost levels? If you could "Pre cool" your engine just before you make a run for example by dropping the coolant temp to 160f v/s the normal at 180f? Just a thought. (Don't want to run at 160 all the time, you lose some gas mileage at the colder temps IIRC.)

I think the V8 pumps I have looked at just flow at a pre-set rate all the time.

To replace your stock pump, are you just going to leave one there with no impeller to maintain the pully location and fan drive, or are you going to block off the pump location with a plate and define your own pully and belt routing setup?

[group a supra]

going to use davies craig pump

flows 20-110 litres min (300-1650 gall hour)
dash board controller set temp at what you want when you want
and will block of the current hole
nice at least dont need thermostat
combine this with fly rad and twin fans it will be as good as it can get you might say. :naughty:

[IJ.]

Another fine Aussie product ;)!

[group a supra]

made in australia abused properley :arcadefre in england:icon_bigg

[IJ.]

My first Water to Air IC had a small Davies Craig pump on it but the new big one uses a Bosch pump!

I've looked at the DC EWP's a few times but like the big arse Engine fan I just bought for summer in traffic!

[group a supra]

yes but we are both building different machines so fan suits yours sorry big arse fan suits yours aussie pump mine so same car different machines same outcome proper car:biglaugh:

[IJ.]

LOL not to mention you guys don't suffer weeks of 40C days during summer!!

Yet another aspect of your build I'm really interested in seeing how it works out!! :)

[group a supra]

your intrested to see how it works out so am i where am i going to get 40 degree c :slap: days from

[IJ.]

ROFLMAO nah ignore the 40c days thing I'm just interested to see how the overall concept works out using the EWP on such a monster!

[group a supra]

monster my cars not ugly :biglaugh:

i am also intrested to see how it works out
i think it will work out quite nicley :naughty:

[IJ.]

LOL The Car if left more or less stock body is beautiful but the motor is the creature from the black lagoon on steroids :D!

[group a supra]

roflmao again :biglaugh: i tend to look at like the film aliens

if only they knew what was going to happen when it hatched:evil2:

[IJ.]

Or maybe "The Toxic Avenger" ;)

[group a supra]

i can't believe i am sat at my computer at midnight on a sunday roflmao again

:1zhelp:

still not sure what to do with the dash yet might go full spa set up

[IJ.]

i can't believe i am sat at my computer at midnight on a sunday roflmao again

:1zhelp:

still not sure what to do with the dash yet might go full spa set up
Is that what Ron has?

[group a supra]

no they are individual digital race gauges ie each one has pressure and temp read out for oil or as my boost gauge that was using had boost and inlet temp really nice they are but expensive

[IJ.]

LOL it's only money ;)!

("another wheelbarrow of cash to the Black Supra please")

[group a supra]

good job my mates gf owns skip hire company saves buying so many trips with the wheelbarrow :biglaugh:

[group a supra]

have just finisher modding the first intercooler pipe and i have to say i am mighty pleased with it
we are going to run the same 4" pipe work all through
today have got blow off valve welded on as well using mickalor supra clamps which are renowned for their strength in holding high boost levels but i have incorporate as per the original gpa cars a bar to stop the pipe blowing on the off chance (no pun intended there) i will use these throughout the induction system as a way of trying to increase reliability on what will be such a highpower street car any thoughts on what i have done are always appreciated no matter how small :icon_bigg

[IJ.]

GrpA: Beautiful and I LOVE the strap!
(Only thing I would have done differently would be to either mount it in line with the TB or make it a triangle with 2 bolts on the TB so asthetically it's more pleasing to the eye!)

Can't wait to see the rest!

[IJ.]

This is what I have in mind>>

http://members.optushome.com.au/ianj/platet.jpg (http://members.optushome.com.au/ianj/plate.jpg)

[group a supra]

had already thought about it that is why i offset it to one side incase i decided to do just that :evil2:

[group a supra]

lack of updates as waiting for parts at min:1zhelp:

[IJ.]

If nothing else building a Supra teaches patience :)

[Oper8or]

Man from what I have read you guys have more patience more then any I have seen. Envy ,,, drrooolll ,, sigh.

[IJ.]

Op: LOL every time I'm impatient it ends up costing me a bundle so patience is a good thing :)!

[SupraMario]

i feel like im reading a on going novel of a car every time i read IJ and Group A's build up, very beautiful written and hard to put down.

[RacerXJ220]

I can't read :wtf:








But keep the pictures coming please :biggrinki

[IJ.]

I can't read :wtf:








But keep the pictures coming please :biggrinki
LMAO I always try to include lots of pics! ;)

[group a supra]

oper8er without patience this simply would not happen as ij say it teaches you to be patient :icon_conf

d34dc311 i am sure that ij appreciates your compilments as much as i do on our er expensive novels sorry i keep forgetting the spell check for typing errors though :1zhelp:

racerxj220 i will do my best with pictures :biglaugh:

but today good news my rear light bulb holders have surfaced from suzey which means i get a bit more wiring done this week and i have also ordered a further 4 4" 90 degree alloy bends so can get some more induction system done when they turn up
unfortunatley they are not readily avaliable like stainless so when the odd one appears i jump on it but they dont turn up very often in mandrel bent form
:3d_frown:

[group a supra]

look what turned up today :naughty:

4" ally elbows now one can get moving again

horrayy:icon_bigg

and no taking the piss out of kitchen sink :1zhelp:

[IJ.]

mmm big shiney bendy bits :)!
(this is the section I'm really looking forward to seeing pics of!)

[group a supra]

this is the section i am also not looking forward to doing :biglaugh:

[IJ.]

ROFLMAO! bring on the pics!

I noticed our Turbo Supplier saws off the V Band flange on the 42 comp outlet and welds on a normal one! (I'm guessing it uses 3" pipes)

[group a supra]

4 inch ij :biglaugh:

[IJ.]

LOL but the hole in the Compressor Outlet is only 3" ;)

[group a supra]

3.25 to be precise sir :naughty:

today ordered few more bits

weld on filler cap for fuel tank
battery box
new terminals and relocation cables
aircraft stlyle toggle switch and puush button starter
carbon sheet to make new dash cluster
new terminals for sensors on ecu loom
bonnet pin set
and that was another $500 ers

oh and a pulp fiction bad mother fucker tan wallett :biglaugh:

[IJ.]

ROFLMAO!

Check this out! (http://www.gcg.com.au/Catalogue_Menus/Garrett%20Ball%20Bearing%20Turbochargers/garrettbb_gt42r.htm)

[group a supra]

had thought about it as did that on my to4e but 90 degrees bend

but im going 4 " v band as there will be enough pressure to fill the pipe work at the end of day it starts of smaller in the turbo dosent it

thought my wallett was fitting for the car you think :naughty:

[IJ.]

Only thing I'd be concerned about would be the actual Gas Speed through the Pipes at the CFM you'll be flowing might give perceived lag.

re Wallet: ROFLMAO you own a Supra what do you need a wallet for you know you'll never have money to put in it ;)!

[group a supra]

well did some research and that seems to be what peter blach is running on his mkiv with 1150 rwhp similar set up :icon_conf

[IJ.]

what sort of RPM's?

[group a supra]

around late 7 early 8 shit ill have a look wont be min

[group a supra]

all the power was between 5.5 and 7.5 k tailing of to 8k so will be abot right with my cams :icon_bigg

[IJ.]

Should be real "interesting" :D

[group a supra]

that is what is what i was hoping as he runs mid nines on the 1/4 any way must go and get the angle grinder out ill post updates in a bit :naughty:

[group a supra]

right today also got the ginder going and managed to cut the majority of the tubes in the upper section up ready for welding

ij i know you wanted to see where these were going well here you are brother :biglaugh:

[IJ.]

Looking good! :)

[group a supra]

today

well few bits turned up
dumping ign barrell for the panel system
bonnet pins not stopping red will be black
battery box also going black
fuel neck for my custom tank
and 3 metres of 4" alluminium tube
:icon_bigg
:1zhelp:

[group a supra]

nothing to report other another $500 spent on bits of crap like wires and shit again :dunno:

[IJ.]

GrpA:LOL funny how it all adds up!

I tried to advise someone contemplating a 1JZ swap to allow at least an extra $1000 for "small unexpected crap" as it always happens, the budget falls over as soon as you turn a wrench!

[group a supra]

how right you are brother :3d_frown:

[group a supra]

today


abflug turbo a duct has arrived hooray and thanks to jeff at hpf

[IJ.]

Didn't you already have one Steve?

[group a supra]

no i just had a big hole in my bumper :biglaugh:

[group a supra]

today

i have spent an entire day making some of the custom loom of my new fuse box

good news is i now have brake lights and wipers

bad news is headlights go up and down as they should but dont light up

doh

so i think i have cocked up the wiring of the retractor unit to the lights.
so more wiring this time next week
:1zhelp:

[IJ.]

LOL Steve so now you have a big neat hole in your bumper :)!

[group a supra]

well no got to get new bumper the hole was to big but i wanted a greddy gracer anyway :icon_razz

[IJ.]

bugger! :(

[group a supra]

thats nothing drilled holes in bonnet for latches in wrong place today new bonnet :3d_frown:

[IJ.]

FUCK :(

that would make me cry.........

[group a supra]

its ok i wanted a carbon one to go with my bumper :icon_bigg

[IJ.]

LMAO ya need to post that up in the "You know you're a Supra owner when" thread!

When you use brainfarts as an excuse to buy new parts ;)
(I sometimes wonder if it's a subconscious thing we want parts but the old part needs to die first?)

[group a supra]

sorry there hasnt been any posts recently but i have been making a new wiring loom for the lights pps wipers and so on so there hasnt been much to report but i have started on the new instrument cluster with carbon look for all my spa digital gauges to go in so couple of pics of what im up to :naughty:

[SupraMario]

hey i want some video of your rebuild also,

[group a supra]

todat been making some more carbon for the dashboard and ordered the ultimate in tachometers

the spa tach and combined speedo $1000 ouch will post up pics when arrives but in mean time boost gauge is in as is the dash again at last :naughty:

[group a supra]

dont know whats up with camera ill go take them again

[group a supra]

photos stage 2:biglaugh:

[IJ.]

Very nice! :)

Only suggestion I can make is if you can get some tube that fits over the boost gauge cut it on an angle so it tilts the gauge up and to the right so it's a little easier to scan while driving! (Things are gonna happen FAST in this thing!)

[group a supra]

i use to have it in that position befoe and cause im short it is actualy easy enought to see but good idea ian

[IJ.]

LOL ditto on short!

I put mine in a pod on the steering column as it's real hard to focus on anything but straight ahead when on boost! :)

[group a supra]

i wont know which gauge to look at when its finished anyway there will be that many bearing in mind they are all dual gauges that i will be using :icon_bigg

:1zhelp:

[IJ.]

The "0 > Loss of licence" gauge of course ;)

[group a supra]

lmao again :biglaugh:

[IJ.]

"Honestly officer I was only doing 60"

DOH damn I was looking at the Tach and that was 6000 in top ;)

[group a supra]

time to worry is when it's 8000 in top :naughty:

[IJ.]

Ran the numbers on mine and 8000 = 213 mph/345 kph!

[group a supra]

yep i think i should have the power just need to bolt everything together bit better than standard for that sort of speed my target is actually 210mph but i might up it to 225mph :naughty:

[IJ.]

Bugger that! ;)

200+ takes some serious mods to the structure in front of the car they tend to fall apart!

[group a supra]

ian just you watch this space there is always a reason when i spend this much money are gauges everthing has to be

RIGHT :icon_bigg

[IJ.]

Ahhh now it becomes clear!
(bit of a tip clean and RTV the plastic inner front guards to the outers)

[group a supra]

Well something like that or along those lines anyway just trying to work out where the rear diffuser is going to come from :icon_conf

[IJ.]

Custom tank with it built into it?

[group a supra]

problem there ian is the tank is going inside :nono:

[group a supra]

TODAY

new rev counter and combined speedo turned

now this baby is $1000 in the uk but it does do everthing

ie.
0-60
standing quarter times
switch colours of the needle with the shift lights it has
hall effect sensor for speedo drive
and so on apart from wiring itself in aint lot it don't do

[IJ.]

Flat floor and the fuel cell/difuser outside?

[group a supra]

plenty of time to decide on those issues yet keen to get the interior and intercooler side finished by christmas or at least that is the target

[IJ.]

Good stuff Steve I LOVE the multifunction gauges means less clutter!

375 gauges is all well and good for the young guys but you can only look at 2>3 while going fast ;)!

[group a supra]

plus with the dash i will have accuraccy is guaranted:naughty:

[group a supra]

TODAY

been little busier doin other stuff but got some done

finished of pipework from turbo with the exception of an elbow that needs to be done that is the final connectin piece before secret spec intercooler is ordered :naughty:
then all the induction system can be boxed of so as to speak

[group a supra]

TODAY PART 2

also plumbed in my combined tach and speedo the worlds most expensive dashboard has begun any comments appreciated
ahhhh i still have protective film on dash panel till finished in case you all wondered why finish is't good :biglaugh:

[IJ.]

Wow Steve!

I'd never have believed the 4" IC pipes if I hadn't seen em! ;)

Dash is coming along nicely!

[group a supra]

strange how everything else now seems so er small :biglaugh:

[IJ.]

LOL you'll start "IC Pipe Envy" ;)

Based on my research the 2.5" pipes I used are a perfect match for my application.

[group a supra]

that would be about right cause i went 2.75 workin on 500-600 hp but when i worked how much i was gonna need for a 1000hp 4" appeared to be the size all round :icon_conf

[group a supra]

mmmmmmmmmmm

had me new engine mounts turn up today all the way from australia
yyyeeeeehhhhhhhh

quality i have to say was superb as these were a custom one of job :icon_bigg

[group a supra]

so in regards to the mounts thanks ian
yo da man :biglaugh:

[IJ.]

Steve: Consider it a good karma thing from the fuse panel cover :)!

[group a supra]

no problem ian

just over week to pay day now

can order some more stuff then :icon_bigg

like rest of me dash

[IJ.]

LOL don't ya love Parts day ............ummmmm I mean Pay day ;)!

[IHI-RHC7]

Holy Hell Grp A!
I can't believe I haven't seen your build up until now.....
I'm quite litterally speachless. But that's what keyboards are for.
Fantastic work...

[group a supra]

well thankyou prehaps now you have seen it youll pop in and drop some reviews on my build :icon_bigg

[IJ.]

Steve: Sort of surprised there's not more input in this thread!

Then again if you look at the stats in mine there's only a few other regular posters! :)

[group a supra]

yeah i know was begining to wonder if it was just you and me for a bit :biglaugh:

[IJ.]

:yelrotflm !

I'm sure it's not just you and I Steve!!

Guess people are just a bit shy about jumping into a rebuild thread!

I really like any input at all in my thread even if it's a bit OT as I'll always steer it back sooner or later!

[group a supra]

well maybe it's cause i havent got to the wheel big brakes and engine bit that most people understand (pics) as maybe design and electrics is a bit technical for those less educated in building monsters :biglaugh:

[IJ.]

Dunno Steve sometimes I post stuff I think will get interest but all I hear is tumbleweeds rolling by! ;)

I now have 64 posts in this thread!

[group a supra]

well your input is always appreciated brother :icon_bigg

[IHI-RHC7]

Well, It's looking fantastic Steve, I usually only check in mkiii tech, so that's why I didn't see it for so long. Once I get some cash, I'll have my build thread, but for now I'm in school and everything is halted. But I only want 650-700 whp. so it won't be anywhere near as fancy as yours is.

[aye mate]

Hey I think I found your IC piping coupler when I was at work today.








Kind of a crappy pic but it was 7am and with my phone.

[group a supra]

ihi appreciate the thoughts keep dropping in its about to get intresting now ordering intercooler next week and rest of gauges which between them totals er hang on $3400 dollars

:icon_bigg

aya mate i like the humour and keep droping in also loads gonna be happening in here there is another of $20,000 in parts to drop in the car yet as money comes in

hopefully i'll finish my dream spec in 12-18 months cause it aint goin on the road till it's done :biglaugh:

[group a supra]

right had the designs for the intercooler through the email yesterday

so hopefuly this will be ordered and sorted by tuesday

it will flow 1347 cfm and is more than capable of supporting well over 1000rwhp and having seen the work of these people i am inclined to believe them
so heres pic of the design as this is a custom job and also pic of some of there previous work

[aye mate]

Shee.....6'' thick? That'll cool it down right nice.

[group a supra]

Shee.....6'' thick? That'll cool it down right nice.

well that was the idea or to get it as close to amb temp as poss my previous hks could only get it down to 45 cel on a good day with the t04e and i would like to see 20 cel on a cool day so this is the starting point have a few more tricks up my sleeve yet :biglaugh:

[IHI-RHC7]

I'm telling you, get a freon charged IC.
Just route your stock AC compressor to it. ;)

[williamb82]

lookin good man, cant wait till i have all the stuff i need to start putting mine together.

[group a supra]

alternator goes where a/c was ihi but a nice idea all the same

[IJ.]

What AR's on the "WindMill" again Steve?

[group a supra]

william thanks keep droping in any thoughts are apreciated

ij hot side is 1.06 cold side .60 why whats your thoughts bro

[IJ.]

Was just wondering if you'd gone for the Big Arse AR or not ;)

[group a supra]

well it is big arse on the hot side anyway :biglaugh:

the rest of my dash will be here within 48 hrs i have just been informed as they are finishing the build on the last gauge today an will be shipped promptly
WWWWWHHHHOOOOOOOOOO

wallet disagrees and swears at me

[IJ.]

Nah the BA one is 1.22 ;)!

[group a supra]

Nah the BA one is 1.22 ;)!

so that means mine is only a propeller of the titanic big ass one is the windmill :biglaugh:

[IJ.]

LMAO nope yours is a WindMill the BA one is a Nasa WindTunnel! ;)

[group a supra]

lmao ian


TODAY

decided to fit the engine mounts as been busy doing general day to day stuff you know

only got turbo side done as spent couple hours driving round to get the bolts i wanted and it is more difficult tochange mounts with the engine fitted especialy if it live on your drive and not in a garage but one is done maybe went ott onte bolts as they are ht steel m16 so had to drill bits of the alloy mount out and small amount on the subframe to accomodate

and to add insult to injury (lot of cuts whilst fumbling around) tak of the bracket to gearbox but it came of in two pieces :cry:

[SkyHawk Ecks]

Bah, you don't need those silly brackets!

[group a supra]

lmao again this a comedy thread i reckon

kind of figured it might be worth putin anothe on with the power i'm gonna have;)

[billspreston01]

well...if your intercooler isn't big enough to cool that baby...you could always shoot for a cry02 setup. With everything they carry now I'm sure you can get the temps down. Fuel bar cooler, air intake cooler before and after the intercooler, and a large intercooler sprayer...you'd be lucky if you weren't shooting ice out your tailpipe :) (j/k)

http://www.designengineering.com/products.asp?m=sc&cid=1

[group a supra]

bill had thought about this was thinkin intercooler sprayer and fuel bar -10 as the inlet system is only avaliable in 3 " and i have 4" tube that rule that one out but was considering it might see what the inlet temps are first when it is running in much distant future:biglaugh:

[IHI-RHC7]

So how steep of an angle is it from your compressor outlet to the IC plumbing, is it sharper than a 90?

[group a supra]

So how steep of an angle is it from your compressor outlet to the IC plumbing, is it sharper than a 90?
it is a dead 90 but it is very tight so i'm going to get my mate to do me a 4 section lobster weld special so that there is no leg on the bend

[billspreston01]

i'm sure by the time you get the car running they'll have the stuff you need. Or I'm sure you could fab it up

[group a supra]

i'm sure by the time you get the car running they'll have the stuff you need. Or I'm sure you could fab it up

in all fairness you are proabaly right if i wanted i could fab it up but i am gonna wait and see though i think ihave made my mind up that i will go with the fuel cooler for definate

[group a supra]

ian here's one for you which holes in the block have which thread for my oil readings

my new oil pres/temp gauge will have the following

temp 1/8" npt
pressure 1/8"bsp

what do you reckon :naughty:

[IJ.]

Steve: Very nice!
and YES you do need those wing brackets (not sure if Ecks was joking or not)

You have 3x 1/8Bspt holes and 1x 10x1.25 parallel holes for oil pressure.

Temp's going to need an adaptor from the water neck size that uses a crush washer to your Npt fitting. (I'm using the stock sender so haven't even looked at the size)

[group a supra]

Steve: Very nice!
and YES you do need those wing brackets (not sure if Ecks was joking or not)

You have 3x 1/8Bspt holes and 1x 10x1.25 parallel holes for oil pressure.

Temp's going to need an adaptor from the water neck size that uses a crush washer to your Npt fitting. (I'm using the stock sender so haven't even looked at the size)
dont suppose you would be good enough to have a look for me ian cause i'm useless at determinig threads