11 second Street Car

[theKnifeArtist]

how much would it take to have an 11 second supra on a 7m with a full interior. i really dont like the thought of gutting the interior, but this damn car is such a boat that it irritates me to hear my friend talk about these light ass cars with 4bangers pullin these impressive times. makes me feel like owning a supra is nothing special really. but it is! its a great car, but its so heavy!

[suprapower1221]

I hear you on how 4 bangers are putting down good times. My friend has a dodge neon it not even an srt. He spent $800 on a ebay turbo kit and its running 12's

[theKnifeArtist]

ugh its just not fair.

[jtamulis]

JT62 And the mods to support it, and drag radials, and you should be in the
mid 11s. The JT62 makes 500+rwhp, and with 425rwhp I've seen people hit
12.10 so 75 more HP should get you deep into the 11s.

Jeff

[tonysupra]

it will take many of thousands of dollars. i spent over 5000 in the past year just in mods. Maybe I just should of done a swap? But i love the 7m.

[GrimJack]

JT62 And the mods to support it, and drag radials, and you should be in the
mid 11s. The JT62 makes 500+rwhp, and with 425rwhp I've seen people hit
12.10 so 75 more HP should get you deep into the 11s.

JeffWell said - power and some way to make it stick.

[RacerXJ220]

power and some way to make it stick.

That is all.

Unless you put a 7M into a MK2, and I never considered it cheating, hehehe...

500HP in a 3000 pound car = 10's!

power and some way to make it stick.

^^^^^^ This still applies though....

[Sawbladz]

I saw a white Mk3 run mid to low 11's on Kuhmo Ecsta Supra's monted on sawblades. He wouldnt tell me what turbo he was running but it looked like something off ebay...nothing special. He also had a beefed up automatic.

Edit: full interior

[MRSUPRA]

My solution would be:
Bolt-on SP61GT- $1200
full exhaust- $750
Ebay intercooler with pipes- $400
550 cc injectors- $350, Walbro- $100
MAFT-pro-$500, boost gauge- $50
Clutch-$450, ETstreets- $300
Dyno tune- $150

=$4250. That should get you solid 11's with a good engine.

Most turbocharged cars do not have a stock turbo or fuel system with enough capacity to get them in the 11's. I can only think of 2, the EVO and MK4 supra. And they will only do that with lots of expensive supporting mods and crazy driving.

[QWIKSTRIKE]

Hell Joliroger4 ran 11's with a 60-1. I have a friend install a wolf v400 and pull 11.5 on a junk yard motor, and a 67mm turbo. So it depends on driver and tuning. Without a good tune or a good driver it will never happen

[QWIKSTRIKE]

My solution would be:
Bolt-on SP61GT- $1200
full exhaust- $750
Ebay intercooler with pipes- $400
550 cc injectors- $350, Walbro- $100
MAFT-pro-$500, boost gauge- $50
Clutch-$450, ETstreets- $300
Dyno tune- $150

=$4250. That should get you solid 11's with a good engine.
Most turbocharged cars do not have a stock turbo or fuel system with enough capacity to get them in the 11's. I can only think of 2, the EVO and MK4 supra. And they will only do that with lots of expensive supporting mods and crazy driving.

Pretty much the real dea,l and dont forget a good driver

[7Mboost]

60mm + turbo, supporting mods, d/r's, good tune

[themadhatter]

full 3" exhaust -750$
200 shot of N2O direct port-800$
good tires -(300-400)$
good clutch-450$
Fuel pump-???
And a strong motor I can see high 11's on a cold day with the car hookin right

[upgradedsupra]

I saw a white Mk3 run mid to low 11's on Kuhmo Ecsta Supra's monted on sawblades. He wouldnt tell me what turbo he was running but it looked like something off ebay...nothing special. He also had a beefed up automatic.

Edit: full interior


I would have to see a video to believe that and WITH the tires up close. Otherwise I call BS. I have had experience on those crappy tires.

Duane

[suprarich]

stock ct, 125 shot, auto, 3200 stall

[VanSupra]

To be able to do this time and time again you'll need unlimited funding, no conscience, and the ability to be able to drive your car with no respect for it at all even if it means total and utter destruction. I'm with upgraded on the Cumonthehoe sexta rubber on squawblades hooking into the 11's. You'll need et streets or drag radials atleast.

:)

[gilberjj]

there have been 2 guys so far try to "estimate" money-wise how much it will be to get a supra into the 11's. Those numbers are so far off, I've spent a lot of money on my car, and I'm still not there. They forgot all the little things that add up to be a lot of money and a lot of time. A built engine doen't mean $700 pistons. It means all the time if you do it yourself, and the machine work that goes along with that. Like boring and honeing is something like $100, plus getting your block decked is another $50-70. and if you need your crank turned thats more money. Plus shot peening your rods isn't done for free, and eagle rods are $475. all new gaskets (turbo gaskets, oil pan gasket, intake manifold gasket), all said and done probebly $100, not includeing a mhg $130 (which was left out). ARP hardware $175-200. Widebands $300-450, installed widband bung $40-50, suspension $600-$1000 (if yours is all wore out and soggy like mine), AFPR $250, oil catch can $85, some sort of bov $65 (if your cheap) $150 if your stubborn about quality. cams if you dare are $400-700. and if you really plan on running 11's, i doubt you're going to do it on a $450 clutch, im planning on getting a $700 hpf bronze. im not made of money, im 20 yrs old and a full time student at PLU. Im not pissing and moaning right now, but you gotta realize that there are a million unforseen expenses with our cars. however, done right you can have an 11 second car that you can ACCTUALLY DRIVE TO THE TRACK. if you are real determined on getting a cheap 11 second car, my neighbor bought a '72 nova with a small block in it. he had less than $4000 invested in that car. but he is still jelous of mine which is a low 14, high 13 second car. because i got good gas mileage, and turbo cars pull like raped apes...... ok.... ill get off my soap box now, but sit down and do a detailed budget, plan everything, and then double it...... just to be safe lol

[SupraDreamPDR]

power and some way to make it stick.

Without a good tune or a good driver it will never happen

i think these two statements sum up what is needed to get you into the 11's.

[7Mboost]

STEPS:
1) Sell house/residence
2) Go to Chevy dealership
3) Buy Corvette
4) Go to racetrack:biglaugh:

[nosechunks]

STEPS:
1) Sell house/residence
2) Go to Chevy dealership
3) Buy Corvette
4) Go to racetrack:biglaugh:

5) meet up with 34535626 other whorevettes
6) enjoy the 50 grand u just spent on 400 horsepower or even worse 80 grand you just spent on 505, when you could have used it to make about 1000 at the wheels plus tons of other shit to make your car diffrent and something someone will actually look at in the parking lot rather then skip over because theres another 456342 of the exact same thing. :biglaugh: i give respect to cars people spend THERE OWN time building, not someone who just happen to have 70 grand laying around.

what im wondering if the same origional question, but without nitrous and on pump gas (93 octane) and drag radials.

i have about 3 grand into my car now, between machine work, ross pistons, MHG, arp head bolts, maft and wideband. now i need turbo and fuel. im thinkin itll take about another 3 grand to get what i would need to go 11's on pumpgas without nitrous on DR's.

figure 1500 for turbo, 350 for injectors, 500 for a 3k stall converter, 200 for massive IC, 200 for piping, and that leaves 250 for a pair of big 15's with big DR's.

[7Mboost]

5) meet up with 34535626 other whorevettes
6) enjoy the 50 grand u just spent on 400 horsepower or even worse 80 grand you just spent on 505, when you could have used it to make about 1000 at the wheels plus tons of other shit to make your car diffrent and something someone will actually look at in the parking lot rather then skip over because theres another 456342 of the exact same thing. :biglaugh: i give respect to cars people spend THERE OWN time building, not someone who just happen to have 70 grand laying around.

what im wondering if the same origional question, but without nitrous and on pump gas (93 octane) and drag radials.

i have about 3 grand into my car now, between machine work, ross pistons, MHG, arp head bolts, maft and wideband. now i need turbo and fuel. im thinkin itll take about another 3 grand to get what i would need to go 11's on pumpgas without nitrous on DR's.

figure 1500 for turbo, 350 for injectors, 500 for a 3k stall converter, 200 for massive IC, 200 for piping, and that leaves 250 for a pair of big 15's with big DR's.

You show me a mkiii 2900 lb. Supra with ac, ps full interior, superior handling, 6 speeds and tourque from god. I like mk3's and i\t was ajoke but for the money you can't beat it.

[thedave925]

MK2. Swap and swap some more and throw all you can at it. It will give that vette a serious run for the money by the time you figure out how to blow 30 grand on a MK2

edit:
I'm outta line also. This isn't a contest to piss away money but to determine what it takes for an MK3 with full interior/accessories to do 11s and still be streetable. posts 4-6 said it on spot, regardless of funds. Supras rock, 'nuff said

[gilberjj]

MK2. Swap and swap some more and throw all you can at it. It will give that vette a serious run for the money by the time you figure out how to blow 30 grand on a MK2


ok.......... but i would rather have a car that has sex appeal, and will run for more that 5k miles at a time....... not saying it's impossible to make an incredibly fast and reliable mkII, but why would anybody do that. i understand making mkII's fast, but no prospective corvette buyer wants an early 80's car that needs a lot of work to make it fast. i plan on twin turboing a corvette someday, and i have an mkIII right now. i have no desire for an mkII, cause ive seen only a few that look decent.... and not a single one that looks better than mine, IN MY OPINION

[thedave925]

Its cool. I get that vettes are dope, nearly every year is great for its time. I already edited above ^ :) This threaded started out about Hp.

[jtamulis]

For those that haven't driven a 7M-GTE MKII. I've said it before and I'll say
it again, I took ONE ride in Chris Parvin's 425rwhp MKII and I started taking
my 454rwhp MKIII apart to build one. A nice MKII with a 7M cannot be beat
bang for the buck by much of anything, we've trounced vettes vipers porches
MKIVs, you name it. best 1/4 mile time was only 12.3, but with a 2.1 60' time.
but the trap speed was 124 (which is LOW 11 territory). Shitty 14" tires makes
a car not hook up, ever, but burnouts at 70+MPH is kinda fun too.


Jeff

[americanjebus]

For those that haven't driven a 7M-GTE MKII. I've said it before and I'll say
it again, I took ONE ride in Chris Parvin's 425rwhp MKII and I started taking
my 454rwhp MKIII apart to build one. A nice MKII with a 7M cannot be beat
bang for the buck by much of anything, we've trounced vettes vipers porches
MKIVs, you name it. best 1/4 mile time was only 12.3, but with a 2.1 60' time.
but the trap speed was 124 (which is LOW 11 territory). Shitty 14" tires makes
a car not hook up, ever, but burnouts at 70+MPH is kinda fun too.


Jeff

^ he's got a point, i got to ride in a 400hp 7m mkII at pacnw nationals this year with joe and HOLY shit is it different than any mkIII, it did a 12 sec pass the day before and had me making serious offers on local mkII's in my area.

[WeDgE]

i have no desire for an mkII, cause ive seen only a few that look decent.... and not a single one that looks better than mine, IN MY OPINION

You really haven't seen any nice MKII's then. :icon_razz

[nosechunks]

You show me a mkiii 2900 lb. Supra with ac, ps full interior, superior handling, 6 speeds and tourque from god. I like mk3's and i\t was ajoke but for the money you can't beat it.

i was just joking back, its all good.

but im just showing the point that ull spend 50 grand on a 400 horsepower car or 80 grand on a 500 horsepower car with A/C PS and a full interior but u cant take the same money and make a supra equally fast or faster while still retaining A/C, PS, a full interior and out handel a corvette? im planning to run 11's and the only thing i dont have from that list is the A/C and its because it didnt work when i bought my car so i just ripped it out. and as far as handeling, unless they build an autocross track in NY i dont really have to worrie about it THAT much.

who needs A/C anyway, well for a sport roof equipped car, if its sunny enough out to require the A/C idk about you but im taking the roof off lol.

and so what if its not 2900lbs. thats why theres a turbo, turn the boost up.

im sure you could build a 10 second street MK3 supra with a 7M runing only on pumpgas and drag radials for 40 grand.

[QWIKSTRIKE]

5) meet up with 34535626 other whorevettes
6) enjoy the 50 grand u just spent on 400 horsepower or even worse 80 grand you just spent on 505, when you could have used it to make about 1000 at the wheels plus tons of other shit to make your car diffrent and something someone will actually look at in the parking lot rather then skip over because theres another 456342 of the exact same thing. :biglaugh: i give respect to cars people spend THERE OWN time building, not someone who just happen to have 70 grand laying around.

what im wondering if the same origional question, but without nitrous and on pump gas (93 octane) and drag radials.

i have about 3 grand into my car now, between machine work, ross pistons, MHG, arp head bolts, maft and wideband. now i need turbo and fuel. im thinkin itll take about another 3 grand to get what i would need to go 11's on pumpgas without nitrous on DR's.

figure 1500 for turbo, 350 for injectors, 500 for a 3k stall converter, 200 for massive IC, 200 for piping, and that leaves 250 for a pair of big 15's with big DR's.


Not to mention you see that Z06 2006 vette I was rompingon on my way to Englishtown Race way park this fall. Not to mention blackdevilsupra and nofear6235 and me all romping a c6 vette on our way to my dyno meet.

[Boost Lee]

stock ct, 125 shot, auto, 3200 stall

^That's what I'm talking about. :biglaugh:

Seriously though. MDC's Garrett LS600 Turbo (fatass turbo with amazing spool time), Bunch o' fuel, Bunch o' boost, Good Tuning, MickeyThompson DR's & a 4200 stall....and you are sooooo set for 11's. :icon_bigg

[suprarich]

I wasn't kidding, all you need in a mk3 supra to run 11's is the stock block and head, some upgraded fuel, a maft pro or VPC, the STOCK NON UPGRADED CT, some exhaust, and a litte nitrous. A 3200 stall converter and tweaked tranny. Don't want nitrous, then and upgraded ct will do it.

3500 bucks or less for 11's

[Boost Lee]

^^I know you aren't kidding, Beavis. ;)

I drive an Auto. I'm aware. :)

As for this sudden talk of a 7M powered MKII...

Fuckin' A man...If you haven't had the pleasure of riding in one, DO IT.
Even with simple BPU mods, it's no comparison to a MKIII with gutted interior.
It's just not the same.

gilberjj - I understand it is entirely your opinion...but homeboy nailed it....

I don't think you've seen very many nice MKII's then. ;) There are SEVERAL MKII's out there that I would take over my MKIII in a heartbeat...and I'm in :love:LOVE:love: with my Supra. :)

Jeff

[Mr.PFloyd]

yay my 2cents now! :D i've seen many 5 spd supras run with just about 2000 dollars put into them. upgraded ct-26, walbro, afpr, slicks, lexus maf, intake and a ddp with a healthy engine puts them into 11's. its been done boys.

oh and mk2 IS cheating :rofl:

[Boost Lee]

yay my 2cents now! :D i've seen many 5 spd supras run with just about 2000 dollars put into them. upgraded ct-26, walbro, afpr, slicks, lexus maf, intake and a ddp with a healthy engine puts them into 11's. its been done boys.

oh and mk2 IS cheating :rofl:

MKII might as well be cheating, lol. It's waaaaay out of our MKIII league. ;)

^^^You forgot bigger injectors. :icon_bigg

[7Mboost]

i was just joking back, its all good.

but im just showing the point that ull spend 50 grand on a 400 horsepower car or 80 grand on a 500 horsepower car with A/C PS and a full interior but u cant take the same money and make a supra equally fast or faster while still retaining A/C, PS, a full interior and out handel a corvette? im planning to run 11's and the only thing i dont have from that list is the A/C and its because it didnt work when i bought my car so i just ripped it out. and as far as handeling, unless they build an autocross track in NY i dont really have to worrie about it THAT much.

who needs A/C anyway, well for a sport roof equipped car, if its sunny enough out to require the A/C idk about you but im taking the roof off lol.

and so what if its not 2900lbs. thats why theres a turbo, turn the boost up.

im sure you could build a 10 second street MK3 supra with a 7M runing only on pumpgas and drag radials for 40 grand.


Its cool man I would much rather have an mk3 as well.

[Boost Lee]

^^Agreed.

Actually, one big reason that I wouldn't want to own a Vette if I could afford it is...

Sure...having it would be awesome and all...but what happens if you're sitting at a light one day...and rest assure, a MK3 pulls up with heavy lope and some fatass tires on the back......and then you get your $80,000 dollar doors blown off...and then you'll feel stupid.

Afterwards, that MK3 owner will make a "Kill thread" talking about how this deutchbag in the Corvette had this stupid look on his face.

:rolleyes:

For THAT reason...I'll never want to own a $40,000+ sports car from the factory. ;)

Jeff

[WeDgE]

Afterwards, that MK3 owner will make a "Kill thread" talking about how this deutchbag in the Corvette had this stupid look on his face.

I did. :icon_razz

[Boost Lee]

^LOL, exactly.

And just as I said...for all you could've known, that guy you raced in the Vette was probably thinking, "Man, I just sold my MKIII Supra for this $70,000 piece of junk that just got smoked by a car made in the 80's. I suck at life."

:-p

[7Mboost]

^^Agreed.

Actually, one big reason that I wouldn't want to own a Vette if I could afford it is...

Sure...having it would be awesome and all...but what happens if you're sitting at a light one day...and rest assure, a MK3 pulls up with heavy lope and some fatass tires on the back......and then you get your $80,000 dollar doors blown off...and then you'll feel stupid.

Afterwards, that MK3 owner will make a "Kill thread" talking about how this deutchbag in the Corvette had this stupid look on his face.

:rolleyes:

For THAT reason...I'll never want to own a $40,000+ sports car from the factory. ;)

Jeff


Then your like wow I have enough money to buy a c6 z06 so he goes to Lingerfelter or just does the usually 300 shot and long tubes, and still has money for a hooker at the end of the night.

[Boost Lee]

^Uhhh....Okay.

:confused:

[7Mboost]

^Uhhh....Okay.

:confused:

lol:biglaugh:

[Boost Lee]

^^Shut up. I'll freaking hurt you.

:D

[7Mboost]

^^Shut up. I'll freaking hurt you.

:D
OK lets settle this like men, whoever gets a red Supra first wins OH INYA FACE lol:biglaugh:

[Boost Lee]

....Who says I don't have another red Supra?


;););)











Well, I don't.


:eek3:



;)

I did buy one awhile back, but she was a parter'outter. Okay, stop spamming this thread or I'll........I'll........

Yeah...:)

[gilberjj]

man....... you guys keep raving about these 7m mkII's. well......... ive never acctually been in one, and sure there are some clean ones, but as clean as ron ramirez's???? <http://www.7mpower.com/ron_ramirez.shtml> (check it out) I don't know, I'm really not one to care THAT MUCH about looks. i still have the stock 4x4 looking suspension!!!!!!!! lol its super soggy. i would love to ride in an 11 second mkII. However........ I have ridden in a bpu MKIV. Now THOSE are nice. and they are proven 11 second cars. I want one of those!!!!!!

[jtamulis]

A 425rwhp MKII will flat out run AWAY from a BPU MKIV. Have done so MANY times.


***EDIT if you can get traction***

[Quin]

^LOL, exactly.

And just as I said...for all you could've known, that guy you raced in the Vette was probably thinking, "Man, I just sold my MKIII Supra for this $70,000 piece of junk that just got smoked by a car made in the 80's. I suck at life."

:-p

I laughed so hard when I read that I swallowed my gum and shot Dr Pepper out of my nose all over my monitor lol

MkIIs are the ugliest damn things in the world, next to SUVs. MkIs were pure sex though, my dad had one when I was a little kid... Ran the engine just shy of half a million miles (5m, last six months of the 81s had them, thought I should mention it) til he smoked a deer coming back from Bloomington one night and totaled it. Everything under the hood ran fine, I think he had to replace the clutch ONCE. :cry:

Edit: No offense meant to MkII owners, a Supra is a Supra but as far as it goes in-family... :-P

[gixxer750]

add one more 11 second mk3 to the list.... details and vid coming soon.

[Boost Lee]

Who's keeping track of 11sec MKIII's? 11's are old news. ;)

Just messing with ya, but yeah, congratulations! :)

[gixxer750]

hey.... I'm halfway between 11's and 10's ;)

[tekdeus]

I own both a Mk2 and a Mk3. Although the Mk2 would be insane with my 400hp 7m, it wouldn't be the smooth, quiet, high-speed stable car my Mk3 is. My Mk2 feels scary at 112 mph, but my Mk3 is just getting started at 130+ and is SO stable. In a perfect world, I would swap my 7M into the Mk2 and 2J my Mk3 and enjoy both! ;)

[Zazzn]

I would have to see a video to believe that and WITH the tires up close. Otherwise I call BS. I have had experience on those crappy tires.

Duane

call bs all you want! I seen it in person.. this was on an upgraded CT too! It's an AUTO and he consistantly gets 1.8 60's on thouse tires, he's gone low 11's snice upgrading the turbo to a larger one and putting on some MT slicks.

BTW it's not full weight it's an NA-T hardtop with auto and 7m..

I don't believe a word that comes out this guys mouth but I saw the tiems for my self... He was spanking us all at the toronto meet..

His auto is now bulit and he has a PTE 72 in there, and claimed to dyno 600 WHP. We'll see how dep in the 10's he gets before they toss him out for no cage.

[Wills7MGTE]

A guy near st louis has a silver mk3 targa leather full interior with just over 600 rwhp and a 5 speed r154 and he runs 11.2's all day at gateway last time I saw him, car was sweet looked stock other than rims and the massive exhaust and boost gauge, thing ran awesome, was loud as hell, and squatted like a bitch.

[gilberjj]

haha, that reminds me..... all this talk about expensive factory cars..... i was at a car show and there was this salesman standing by some of the new 04 cobras. (this was back in 03) i didn't know much about them, but i'd heard that they could run low 13s in stock form. so this salesman looked confident, and i asked him what those cars run in the 1/4 mile. without even skipping a beat he says, "they are in the 5's"..... so i repeated myself, no quarter mile.... and he says, ya they are real fast, they run the quarter in 5 seconds. I laughed in his face and walked away. i didn't even have a responce for a stupid comment like that..... some ppl are so ignorant and don't even know it

[Boost Lee]

^^But itzzz got duhh V8'zzzzzzz.....Fo sho'zzzzz. :-p

If it would've been me, I would've asked him what the 60' was.

Response - "Awww, It's real fast, It's .0032 of a second."

I love retarded salesmen. I use to frequent Dealerships and BS with the salesmen and pretend to be an uneducated and didn't know a lick about cars.

At a Mitsubishi dealership, looking at one of the new Evo's, I say, in sarcasm, "So what do we have over here?!"...and he says,

"Oh, this is our Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution.......*pause*............it's actually a Subaru Impreza with Mitsubishi badges on it. He then proceeded to tell me they ran 11's if that wasn't ridiculous enough.

:nono:

[whenmunkysfly]

^^^how is it that people can be so ignorent. Thats almost as bad as when i went to NIX99 and saw a jdm 2jz swap there and asked the guy how much and he said "$6000"
me "wow why so much"
him "because its a rare engine"
me "no it's not i can get a jdm engine on ebay for $1500"
him "but the jdm mk4's came with a 1jz this is a 2jz"
me "no they didn't"
*i pull out my laptop with anytime internet*
me "see"

why work at a toyota junk yard if you don't know shit about them.

[Boost Lee]

^That would be a sign for me to just turn away and leave the junkyard then.

Even though I know what I'M looking at...If the f*cktards working their don't realize what they're working with, I'm either, 1 - Getting ripped, or 2 - Getting something that was abused/damaged/etc.

Oh well. We can't all be......*perfect*........:D