My 2JZ swap Update

[drunk_medic]

Just thought I would put a little show-off/update on my so-called "progress" with the 2JZ swap. It's not real progress, since all I am doing right now is thinking about what I want and gathering the parts that I need for the swap, and parts for the car in general [which is semi-thrashed]. This is all cleaned up and re-posted from I-Supra.

Here's my little workbench with some critical parts:

http://members.cox.net/2jzswap/2jzparts1.jpg
So, there's a wiring harness, greddy boost cut controller, voltmeter, tach from a 1JZ [7k rpm redline], steering wheel spacer and quick-disconnect, 1JZ flywheel, US spec OBDI 2JZ-GTE 6-speed ECU, US spec 2JZ-GTE cams, and US 550cc injectors in the fuel rail.

http://members.cox.net/2jzswap/seat.jpg
Synthetic black, almost identical to Sparco Torino seats.. without any obnoxious brand logo or marking [I HATE almost all brand name markings on items!] 4-point racing harness with some TRD pads. Decent looking, functional, but not over-the-top.

http://members.cox.net/2jzswap/psline.jpg
Infamous 2JZ high pressure power steering line needed for 1JZ/2JZ swap in MA70 body:

http://members.cox.net/2jzswap/flywheelbolts.jpg
8 flywheel bolts. These will secure the 1JZ flywheel to the 2JZ crank.

http://members.cox.net/2jzswap/knob.jpg
This is the Greddy shift knob. Simple, classy, solid and threaded. No more loose, tacky shifter!

http://members.cox.net/2jzswap/loweroilpanbottom.jpg
This, minus the packing label and tape, is what you see when you change your oil. IF you do your own. No? Wuss..

http://members.cox.net/2jzswap/loweroilpantop.jpg
Here is the other side, the inside of the lower oil pan. On the left, you can see where the oil drain plug screws in.

http://members.cox.net/2jzswap/oilcooler.jpg
This is an el-cheapo oil cooler that I bought. It is rather large and thick compared to the stock unit. This is for retrofit, HOWEVER I may just buy a Greddy 16-row remote+relocation kit before the swap and hock this one later on.

[drunk_medic]

http://members.cox.net/2jzswap/oilpickupstrainer1.jpg
Bottom view of the oil pickup. This extends down to the oil pan for lubrication of the engine. VERY important part for how cheap it is!

http://members.cox.net/2jzswap/oilpickupstrainer2.jpg
Another view of the pickup tube/strainer.

http://members.cox.net/2jzswap/oilpanbaffle.jpg
This is the oil pan baffle. I don't know the EXACT purpose of this, but my best guess is to help guide the strainer, avoid so much splash/sloshing in the oil pan, and helping to keep the contaminants in the lower oil pan instead of letting them get up to the crank and bearing area.

http://members.cox.net/2jzswap/tanabewhole.jpg
Here is the muffler I intend to use, IF I don't decide to get a HKS Ti or BoostLogic and have it modified to fit.

http://members.cox.net/2jzswap/tanabeinlet.jpg
The inlet is 3.5", which is quite nice for flow.

http://members.cox.net/2jzswap/tanabeoutlet.jpg
Outlet - big enough to fist. I hope this doesn't sound too loud.

http://members.cox.net/2jzswap/throttlecable.jpg
Throttle cable. This is needed for the 1JZ swap. I heard that the 7M throttle cable can be use with a 2JZ, but I bought this in case my throttle cable is worn. Better safe than sorry!

http://members.cox.net/2jzswap/upperoilpanbottom.jpg
Here is the upper oil pan, bottom view. You can see where the lower oil pan bolts on. This is a must if you plan to buy a Toyota Aristo for your 2JZ needs; the Aristo oil pan is mid-sump - a different configuration, and it WILL NOT fit in your rear-sump Supra.

http://members.cox.net/2jzswap/upperoilpantop.jpg
Upper oil pan, top view. This is what bolts to the underside of the 2JZ block.

http://members.cox.net/2jzswap/wheel.jpg
Momo 4-spoke wheel and hub, from JZA70 Supra.

http://members.cox.net/2jzswap/bk.GIF

[Idealsupra]

nice collection of parts....i think my house is gonna start looking like that when i begin to gater parts for the project im planning on doing. :D

[Ckanderson]

holy fuck son! that must have cost a SHIT load of money!

[drunk_medic]

holy fuck son! that must have cost a SHIT load of money!

Not as much as the rest of the swap is going to cost. Then again, shouldn't be too bad after I get out of debt. There are MANY more parts that I am going to need, and this doesn't even count the upgrades that I want down the road - namely, an AEM EMS, wideband o2, and 720cc squirters with a SP63. I may even go so far as to go getrag with a TRD LSD. 1st and 2nd gear will suck, but from a decent roll it should own.

My goal is to have the 2JZ swap done a year from now.

[Jetfixr757]

Dude, just get a MK4 and be done. I don't like migranes that is why i got a MK3, i was going to do a MK2 with a 7mgte and then i started writing it all down and i got fed up and found a MK3 turbo.
Willam 89T

[drunk_medic]

Dude, just get a MK4 and be done. I don't like migranes that is why i got a MK3, i was going to do a MK2 with a 7mgte and then i started writing it all down and i got fed up and found a MK3 turbo.
Willam 89T

Just because you lack the resources and patience doesn't mean I am going to quit this swap. I love the 2JZ engine, and I love the A70 body. I also want something unique, but do-able. I am not a great fan of the Mk4 body style. Even if I was, I have enough money, time and research into this and couldn't turn back now if I wanted. I love the way my MkIII looks and feels. I'm not a kid OR some average ricer who has wet dreams of owning a JZA80 Supra and settled for a MkIII. Buying a Mk4 would have been settling for me. I've been moderating at I-Supra for over two years now and I seem to have plenty of support from the MkIII AND Mkiv guys over there. In fact, I believe you are the only person who I've ever heard discourage a 2JZ swap to someone who is capable of accomplishing it. I have done the research, I have the skills, the means, the tools, and I have the patience to get this done. I don't mean to sound like a d!ck, but please don't confuse my motivation with your lack of any of these.

[psifactor]

You have an awesome collection of parts going on. some of the things you have you really do not need to do the swap. Like the power steering line. I just had a custom one made that looks better, takes up less room and cost less. I got away with just using the stock 1j throttle cable but looks like you are just piecing together stuff for your swap.

You can get the ARP flywheel bolts from a 4age..i think theyare around 20-28 bucks, but i'm sure the stockers will do just fine. how much were the oem ones?

everything is just so clean and nice. do you have some pictures of the donor car? Projected finish date?

btw, you should let me test out your steering wheel to make sure it will work ;)

[Dirgle]

I'd love to do the 2JZ swap just for the challenge of doing it. Not because it's different, but because it's difficult. I love the 2JZ design, and firmly believe it was put in to the wrong body. MKIV is just an over grown jelly bean. The MKIII just has a look that is serious, sharp, and clean. And with the 2JZ engine, it would be the ideal combo of past and present. Props to you for taking the time to do it right.

[psifactor]

the 2j is great and all but it still does not seem to compare with how smooth the 1j rides. I'm thinking about putting a 2j bottom end with my 1j head but i have a feeling i'll be dissapointed with how it feels.

[drunk_medic]

I got away with just using the stock 1j throttle cable but looks like you are just piecing together stuff for your swap.

You can get the ARP flywheel bolts from a 4age..i think theyare around 20-28 bucks, but i'm sure the stockers will do just fine. how much were the oem ones?

do you have some pictures of the donor car? Projected finish date?


Here are a few more pictures.

Here is the car that will undergo the engine swap:
http://members.aol.com/stageiiisupra/91SupraT/rearleft.jpg

Low shot:
http://members.aol.com/stageiiisupra/91SupraT/rearunder.jpg

Out with the old:
http://members.aol.com/stageiiisupra/91SupraT/engineleft.jpg

Crooked intercooler - needs straightened:
http://members.aol.com/stageiiisupra/siderear.jpg

Sun shining to show off the pearl:
http://members.cox.net/jza70/Car1.JPG

Hood popped, not raised:
http://members.cox.net/irish-bastard/6.jpg

Inside, needs a little work:
http://members.cox.net/irish-bastard/7.jpg

Full loom:
http://members.cox.net/2jzswap/Loom1.JPG

US Spec Twins [converted to TTC]:
http://members.cox.net/2jzswap/twins.JPG

[1jzMoe]

hey man when you get done with your swap can u post it im am currently deployed and i am planning on swapping in a 2jz in my mk3 when i get back to the states and ill have alot of time and money to do it properly so anyhelp would be appreciated thank you

[bobiseverywhere]

If you can put together a total running cost as well. I would be interested in seeing how much to do everything. I want to see if it is worth it to. Stop my moddifing now and just save for a swap. I love the MKIII But would love to have a 2JZ-GTE Powerplant in the car as a starting point. Maybe you can put it in a Excel spread sheet and just update it when you get some parts.

I alwasy here everyone just shooting out numbers about how much it should cost. Since you are doing it i would like to see exactly how much it will cost and for what parts are really needed to get it done right.

I have only seen 1 MKIII where they were able to fit the stock 2JZ twins in i am not sure if they had to cut the firewall or do other extremes but i have only seen one. Other then that i keep hearing people say it can't be done and that you need to switch to a single. Thus rising the cost of doing the swap signifigantly

[esc]

Now does the 2JZ throttle cable work on a 1JZ?

Got a couple extra hundred bucks I can borrow? lol. Lookin good so far. Hope it all comes together nicely.

[drunk_medic]

I would be more than happy to help anyone trying to do this swap. Please remember that I am going off guidance from others, and when my swap is complete, I can only comment on my experiences, pitfalls, expenses and problems.
I WILL be doing a part cost tally when I am done, and I will document this swap EXTENSIVELY. The most documented 2JZ->MA70 swap around is by Arnout [supras.nl], and I want my swap to have about the same amount of documentation, but probably 2x the pictures.

As for the 2JZ cable working on the 1JZ - I cannot confirm this, but yes, it is supposed to work. Rick [1jz-gte.us] used a 2JZ cable for a 1JZ swap. The extra length of a USDM 2JZ cable compensates for the shortness of a RHD 1JZ throttle cable going into a LHD vehicle.

For the twins in the A70 engine bay, this can be done; some people have done it without any modifications; others have use a couple firm strikes with a small sledge on a certain parts of the firewall. Eventually I will get a single turbo, but that will be done in time. I want to get used to BPU power levels without killing myself before I go for the AEM, single turbo and that 500-700hp goal.

A deployed guy needing help? No problem, so long as I'm not deployed as well. Just so you guys aren't disappointed, military pay is good, but it isn't great for a project like this, so don't expect it to happen overnight. I don't plan to be done with this for a year, but I promise that it will be properly documented.

Now: Why? Why trade a 3.0 I6 for a 3.0 I6? Simple: better efficiency and survivability of the new engine, availability of parts from Toyota, availability and ease of 2JZ mods, the unique factor, and something to keep me occupied and motivated.
Why buy a J-Spec engine when you are just converting it to US spec?: The US spec is a better performer out of the box, and can yield more power on the stock twins and injectors. Peak and hold [low impedance] injectors are higher quality, and the cams are more aggressive; so why not just buy a US spec TT engine? They are more expensive, more likely to be beaten on, and with an Aristo front clip from Jarco, I will be getting EVERYTHING from that car. No half-assed clips missing pipes or with cut wires. An Aristo is also a sedan, and less likely to have been modified and beaten up or mistreated.

All of this will be covered when I throw up a webpage, but that's not going to happen for some time. If I DO have a page up in the near future, it will not have the amount of substance that I want.

For some people, keeping the 7M is a wise choice. I've just had a bit of bad luck with mine and I know that the grass is green on the other side of the moountain.

[1jzMoe]

to comment on drunken medic yes military pay is good and not great for a project like that but when your deployed with no bills or anything to pay off(oh and take full advanage of the soldiers and sailors act) ill have more than enough money have enough money now and im also a sargent in the US Army. but i have been through 2 different 7m engines and figured id try the project been lookng it up for a while and never got to it but i plan on buying everything new. New engine and everypart i use will be new so that i dont have to worry about if it was beaten on

[spipedong]

Who made those seats if you don't mind me asking?

Oh yeah, KDC-X915 deck? I've got the same one.

[drunk_medic]

I think the seats are LiteGlow. Synthetic black leather. They only cost about $350 shipped for both. Not bad for Sparco Torino knock-offs? They are wider than the stock seats though, and I am going to have to make custom brackets to mount them. Unfortunate; I had hoped they would just need a couple of holes drilled.

Yes, I've had that Kenwood 915 deck for 5 years now. It's served me well, but I think that after the 2JZ swap, I will put a little money into ICE. Nothing over-the-top, but I wanted to at least put a dash display setup for an AEM on a little LCD monitor above my steering wheel, and my sound system is aging. I can have a quick-view of all critical engine parameters.
I also plan to make a tray for a laptop of some sort, which can slide in and out of the glove compartment. That will be something that I will work on, since I have a spare glove compartment to work with and I am used to working with slide-lock trays. I just need a way to make it slide in far enough where the laptop can slide ALL the way in and can be closed up.
;)

[streetknight]

looks good seems liie a hard road, ahead but looks fun.

[Johnny Dangerously]

Lookin great Drunk Medic! its been a while since ive said anything to ya, but im glad youre incredibly patient with your car/goals. Only nothing but great things to come for you, my friend.

[Satan]

You're doing things the right way... having a PLAN is the most important part. I made hasty choices and it ended up costing more (time, resources, aggravation, etc).... however, it was mostly 'cause I wanted to be unique. So, I figured being the only MKIII with a 2J VVTi would be kewl... it is, but it was a long hard road. Good luck and don't get yourself frustrated by anyone else.

I am right along with you.... I could've bought a TT MKIV a loooooong time ago, but I love my MKIII. Now the GF has her NA MKIV, so I get to play with both.

[Shinobu]

Nice parts collection you have there. I can't wait to see it all come together -- keep us updated!

[Johnny Dangerously]

You're doing things the right way... having a PLAN is the most important part. I made hasty choices and it ended up costing more (time, resources, aggravation, etc).... however, it was mostly 'cause I wanted to be unique. So, I figured being the only MKIII with a 2J VVTi would be kewl... it is, but it was a long hard road. Good luck and don't get yourself frustrated by anyone else.

I am right along with you.... I could've bought a TT MKIV a loooooong time ago, but I love my MKIII. Now the GF has her NA MKIV, so I get to play with both.


not to mention your gf is hot, satan! :D

[Bahraini_Zupra]

hey guys sup ,

man u got the same things that i got except the interior but i got the 1jz 7k TACH :D
i got my 2jzgte auto from aristo also very low mileage with everything ecu and harness but i replaced my ecu and harness with us spec ones also 6pd us spec ecu :)
also i got my oil pan from 1jz that would fits my car but what i am missing now is 1jz trans i found few but need money go buy it lol ! also i am searching for 550cc and US spec turbos and the US SPEC resistor pack plus i got the maf ;)

good luck
ali

[MKIIINA]

not to mention your gf is hot, satan! :D
agreed! but cant wait to see what its like having that 2j in there w/ vvti

[Bahraini_Zupra]

Its not VVTI older aristos is none vvti like the one i got .

[1jzMoe]

hey question on that the vvti- would you recommend getting the vvti or not on the engine? and why? whats the difference? and would it be better to have a modified 2jz with or w/o the vvti

[Satan]

not to mention your gf is hot, satan! :D

heeeellll yeah!! :p She's so very kewl too! She's been trying to get into these forums all mornin'... so the compliment will be nice for her to see. She'd unintentionally lost alot of weight, before the last meet and some of her ASSets had shrunk some (wish I had that problem). So, she's been a bit self-conscious... Still a hottie tho :D


Back on topic....

As far as VVTi....

My ONLY issue with this setup is the availability of wiring giagrams and the ability to pull codes (does not have E1 and Te1 in diag block). The Aristos also came with an immobilizer. You need the front clip... ignition key, etc. Otherwise the stock VVTi ECU is worthless. You will never get it to run with it. The Supras came with an optional immobilizer and it doesn't seem to be too common, but I wouldn't know too much about that.

I think Ken's got the newer Aristo (JZS161) diagrams now, but not translated. So, you may probably have no issues there. Give him a call and see tho (tolbertautomotive.com). Cost me close to $300 to have the very small portion of the JDM Supra one translated.

The plus side is that these 2JZs are much cheaper than the other non-VVTis and they use a MAS/MAF. Supposedly they are hard to tune, etc. However, that really depends on your goals and $$$$. I don't plan to go over 400RWHP as it's going to be my daily driver. Also, VVTi should be a bit better on gas mileage and/or be a little more efficient at burning fuel at low, moderate, and WOT...

[14u2c]

updates please.

[drunk_medic]

I have none! I'm getting out of debt before I buy more stuff. Sorry, guys - this swap is going to take awhile.

[SupraMario]

lol hey drunk i think i found my donor. $4000 for a MKIV 1994 its T, and has getrag 6 speed in it, it was stolen and is in a junk yard, insurance company still has title to it. im going to see if they will take 2500 for it, its been in their listings for like 2 years now, they have dropped the price from 8K to 4k sence then. its 363 miles from my house too. woot. im freak happy.
hey when your out of dept, u going to be getting a aristo correct?
sad thing is i cant find a MKIII that is near me for cheap, (200-350) like blow engine, or no engine. i dont want an auto tho.
well let the phone calls begin. :)

-Mario

[RHDMA70]

nice...good luck. i remember when my garage looked like that...its a good feeling!!!

[lenny]

Do you know if you need different brackets if its from an Arristo?

[drunk_medic]

Do you know if you need different brackets if its from an Arristo?

The 1JZ engine mounting brackets for a JZA70 Supra are what you will need to use in order to mount the 2JZ engine into an A70 Supra. If you are '86.5-1989, I would recommend BIC 1JZ mounts.

I am currently on vacation. I was in Wyoming for about 2 weeks - I am now, and will be, in Arizona for another week and a half. When I come home, I'll see what I can do about at least getting the short shifter completed, and getting the 2JZ wire harness extended.

[BigTSetter]

Hey, if you're driving and want to stop by Denver, give me a call.

Bryan
303-726-6525

[drunk_medic]

Hey, that's a great offer - Thanks. Unfortunately, I've already passed through Denver and I have to say that it's a very nice area out there. Denver/Ft. Collins seem like high places on the "want to move" list.

[1989MKIII]

i just shutter at the tought of a 2jz motor pushing around 900-1100 HP in a MK3 would be like, i have been in a MK4 with 1153 and it was like a damn f14 jet takeing off (or what i could imagin it being like) it pulled like nothing else. man, when you get this thing done and everything. i wanta see dyno papers. BTW. sorry if i missed it in here, but what RWHP goal you got? let me know. i am getting ready for the 1jz swap to begin (dont have funds for 2jz) and i wanta do 400-550...


thanks
will be lookin forward to seeing this done


justin

[drunk_medic]

Beginning goal is BPU, but eventually I want an AEM managed 700hp car.

[drunk_medic]

Alright - I am back home from vacation now. Hopefully I can work on some of my projects more in the next week or so.

[drunk_medic]

Hopefully around the middle of next month I will have a nice chunk of change - enough to buy motor mounts and a radiator or bellhousing? Maybe. The question is: do I perform the swap on my '91T, OR should I buy an 87-89 with a thrashed motor for cheap to perform the swap on? This would certainly put some ease on the motor mount waiting times - fast for pre 89 engine mounting brackets from BIC, or it might take time for OEM Toyota 1JZ engine mounting brackets from elsewhere for my '91. Hrmmm..

Just so you know.. if I do get a pre '89 for the swap, it's keeping the front end, and getting an '89+ rear end and 3-piece wing.. however, I don't know if I want a hardtop to partially gut for weight savings, or if I want a full weight targa..

[drunk_medic]

Okay, yeah.. white or black 87-88 hardtop with 89+ wing, 89+ taillights and white package moulding if white. That sounds pretty bad-ass. Then again, even a primered, beat up Civic would sound bad-ass if it had a BPU or 700hp 2JZ in it...

[SupraMario]

Okay, yeah.. white or black 87-88 hardtop with 89+ wing, 89+ taillights and white package moulding if white. That sounds pretty bad-ass. Then again, even a primered, beat up Civic would sound bad-ass if it had a BPU or 700hp 2JZ in it...

umm i dont think it would fit.:biglaugh:

[mcpcola]

ok ok what the hell does BPU stand for ???????

[OneJoeZee]

basic performance upgrades

[drunk_medic]

BPU is the basic upgrades that the MkIV Supra guys do to their cars to maximize their turbochargers and injectors. While some have seen higher, on average, BPU'd Supras make 390whp. This is done with a Greddy Boost Cut Controller [get the model for the SW20 MR2], intake, 3" or bigger exhaust from the turbo back, and a boost controller.

Subsequent upgrades, noted by + [BPU++ etc.] grow until you replace the turbochargers - at which point you become APU, or advanced performance upgrades.

[mcpcola]

wow it is really amazing the different language between cars groups i came from the Evo/Lancer crowd now the wife DD bitch Jking. Anyhow i hope to order a 1jz soon man its going to be sweet

[Turbo Skegget]

Any news Drunk_Medic???

I havnt posted here before but I have read and collected info as Im also in the progress to put a 2JZ in my LHD -91 supra, and I have learned a lot from your posts. I hope you will get your car together soon.

[suprajr]

Hey awesome pics. I'm just starting my 2jz project. Can you help me out? I was wondering if anyone can tell me the thread for the parts I need to order and the part numbers. I know i definitely need the oil pan stuff. Can anyone help me out? Thanks.

[Zazzn]

This is a pretty sweet bulid up man.. .big dollers...

My firend just spent 500 bones for the pan assembly used... i'm so glad I got a 1jz form a supra.. made life SO much ealier...

[ColinMc]

Hey, I just have a suggestion for your laptop sliding try idea. I actually did the same thing for my old 7M...before tearing it apart again for the coming 1jz and RHD swap lol. Anyways, I used a Sony Vaio Picturebook. Super tiny laptop with a widescreen so it was really easy to make it fit and slide all the way in. I might have some pics saved somewhere on my pc, but I gotta hunt for em. I know the older C1 model Picturebooks sell for about 5 or 600 on ebay? Just figured i'd let ya know.


-Colin

[cruzinbill]

so is what im reading correct u can use 1jz mount to mount a 2jz

[jza75r]

Hi drunk medic
Do you have any udates on how your swap is going? Or better yet any pics?

[drunk_medic]

The swap is on halt. My life is going in a different direction. I am going to get out of the military in less than 11 months and my Supra is unreliable as all hell. I don't have the money to finish the swap and make it reliable right now, and I am not going to waste the cash making my 7M reliable. I am going to get out of debt [not too much further to go!] sell the car and save my money to buy something reliable that will last me and my wife during our transition and time getting settled. My little brother works at a car dealiership and can get me some wicked deals on trade-ins that they accept - I'm hoping to have enough money in-hand to buy a gas-sipping auto 4-banger with cash; not having a car payment is a nice feeling.
I will keep all of my 2JZ swap parts for either another MkIII or a SC300.
The plan is to keep the car for groceries and emergencies until I am really close to getting out of the military - then I will sell it. The movers will come, pack up the place and ship it all out of here.. then we will take a cab to the airport or car rental place, and I will re-locate to my new residence and new life, where I can breathe and not worry about deploying or worry about my bosses getting into every little aspect of my personal life [yes, they do that in the military].

Someday a damn 2JZ-GTE engine will be going in a car of mine, and someday I will have a nice bit of horsepower to put to the ground - but right now I need to pave the way for the future.

We will relocate to Yuma, Arizona so I can be closer to my family. I haven't decided if I want to work at a regular unskilled labor type job and go to school part time using the G.I. Bill or if I want to just apply for a Federal Job and see where it takes me. I might want to get a degree first - that should yield more money for me.
I am currently 26 years old and my goal is to have a job where I make between $60k-$80k a year when I am 30 years old [more would rock, but I don't want to push it]. With my work experience in the military, I have alot of skills that can make GOOD money "on the outside", and a degree can only make that salary go UP.

I need to see a career counselor SOON. I have too many interests and skills, and I need help narrowing down what I want to work towards. It is going to have to be something either aircraft, electro/photo-optical, electric/electronic or computer related. I have more skills than that, but those are the ones that I believe I would enjoy most.
I also need a job where I don't need to be terribly organized, or I need to learn how to organize - organization is my BIGGEST WEAKNESS!

...so THERE is my update! LoL :D

[s383mmber1]

wow, good luck with everything

[kysupra]

well i hope it all works out for you. sorry to here that you stoped the swap. good luck on the outside. :1zhelp:

[jdmk3]

Can anyone of you guys help me find a JZ series rear sump oil pan for my 2jz mk3 swap or part numbers? Thanks

[got_boosted]

Just because you lack the resources and patience doesn't mean I am going to quit this swap. I love the 2JZ engine, and I love the A70 body. I also want something unique, but do-able. I am not a great fan of the Mk4 body style. Even if I was, I have enough money, time and research into this and couldn't turn back now if I wanted. I love the way my MkIII looks and feels. I'm not a kid OR some average ricer who has wet dreams of owning a JZA80 Supra and settled for a MkIII. Buying a Mk4 would have been settling for me. I've been moderating at I-Supra for over two years now and I seem to have plenty of support from the MkIII AND Mkiv guys over there. In fact, I believe you are the only person who I've ever heard discourage a 2JZ swap to someone who is capable of accomplishing it. I have done the research, I have the skills, the means, the tools, and I have the patience to get this done. I don't mean to sound like a d!ck, but please don't confuse my motivation with your lack of any of these.

EXACTLY why I went 2JZ in my MKIII! I want the more advanced engine design, but I'm more in love with the MKIII than the MKIV.

I read the rest of your thread too, and I hope you get a chance to finish this someday!

Collin