How to fit a 6.5" door speaker????

[tekdeus]

I may be able to get my hands of an old set of top-notch MB Quart 6.5" door speakers. Is that the factory size for the 91-92's? I was wondering, is the metal of the door the same, just a different speaker enclosure/grill? Any way that I could make the bigger size fit? Anyone fit a speaker bigger than 5" into the old 4" location? Any help would be rad.

[ross1]

from what i understand all you have to do is get the speaker pods from a 91 or later

sorry it's not much to go on but...
ross

[wingman]

that's the easy, and probably best way. I imagine if your skilled with a saw and have some MDF lying around you could whip something up, but when I went that route i found 6.5 was just a little bit too big to mount it on one layer like in dylan's how to (he used 5" IIRC)

[CRE]

For a clean install and to avoid the possible issues of clarity, I'd lean towards getting speaker pods and door panels from a '91+ donor. If I were to go the make my own route I'd rather build a FG enclosure myself versus leaving the rear open.

[shaeff]

i made custom mounts out of an old erector set. it works like a charm.

the "speaker pods" from a '91 car are really just brackets, not so much pod-like as you'd think... i'll stick with my free erector set. ;)

-shaeff

[lagged]

<---91-92 speaker pods on the way

[born2drv]

i got some heavy duty image dynamics 5-1/4" speakers with a large magnet and they just fit with a custom wood baffle.

if you get heavy duty 6's or 6-1/2's just be careful they may not fit, even in a set of 91+ speaker pods make sure to measure the depth it will hold and go from there.

[tekdeus]

Does the 91+ door panel offer a bit more frontal clearance? Perhaps I could space it out a bit to clear the depth of the magnet. I may me able to pick up an old set of high-end MB Quart 6.5" which are quite beefy and deep.

i got some heavy duty image dynamics 5-1/4" speakers with a large magnet and they just fit with a custom wood baffle.

if you get heavy duty 6's or 6-1/2's just be careful they may not fit, even in a set of 91+ speaker pods make sure to measure the depth it will hold and go from there.

[CRE]

i made custom mounts out of an old erector set. it works like a charm.

the "speaker pods" from a '91 car are really just brackets, not so much pod-like as you'd think... i'll stick with my free erector set. ;)

-shaeff

LOL... I love it. I didn't know they were that different from the 4" pods. Anyone have a pic? I'd like to put some 6.5" in my car.

[shaeff]

the '91-'92 door panels are identical to all other door panels, except that the opening for the speaker is just wider. (you can do this yourself with some metal snips of some sort.

CRE, if you look on ebay, they pop up quite often. i can't bring myself to buy them when my erector set works just fine. :) by the way, i've got 6.5" rockford fosgates mounted in my doors. :)

so, in short, i suggest:

widen the hole for the speaker to let more sound out, which would essentially make youre pre '91 door panels identical to the '91-92's, and

make your own mounting brackets. :)

-shaeff

[supra90turbo]

IMO '91-'92 speaker grilles look all wrong...
The earlier grilles flow better with the cars interior.

[lagged]

IMO '91-'92 speaker grilles look all wrong...
The earlier grilles flow better with the cars interior.

yeah they do look like a bit of an after thought, but hey form follows function right? :icon_bigg

[tekdeus]

Thanks for the info. Which model are your Rockford speakers? Just wondering about the depth which will probably be the issue with a pair of MB Quarts.

the '91-'92 door panels are identical to all other door panels, except that the opening for the speaker is just wider. (you can do this yourself with some metal snips of some sort.

CRE, if you look on ebay, they pop up quite often. i can't bring myself to buy them when my erector set works just fine. :) by the way, i've got 6.5" rockford fosgates mounted in my doors. :)

so, in short, i suggest:

widen the hole for the speaker to let more sound out, which would essentially make youre pre '91 door panels identical to the '91-92's, and

make your own mounting brackets. :)

-shaeff

[wingman]

a little crude i know, but this is a bit of today's handywork:

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/3852/dscf03318yb.th.jpg (http://img117.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf03318yb.jpg)

i've still got to make a metal support bracket where I chopped the door panel, I think that's one reason it sounds just a little bit funky (not to mention the fact It's not enclosed). That and it's a cheapo Xplod, so I didn't expect magic. I can turn my stereo up a good 25% higher now without running into major distortion....now my system is composed of 2 6.5's and a head unit instead of just 2 4's LOL!

[aljordan]

The only thing I don't like about the 6.5's in the doors on the pre91s is that I think it muddies the treble. I would like to stick a flush mount tweet just above the speaker.

The tweet on the 6.5 is covered up by the metal door. I might take a dremel to the metal around the door panel tomorrow. maybe. or I'll just drink beer all day.

[lagged]

or I'll just drink beer all day.

i vote yes.

[trydrew]

I did Dylans mod last week and put some stock Nissan 6'' (IIRC) up there. Just cause i had them, blown to shit stockers, and some let over MDF.

I didnt have to cut any metal, just wood. The sound isnt awesome, but its good enough.

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/8231/dscf14430dv.th.jpg (http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf14430dv.jpg)

[lagged]

seriously go with the stock 6.5 inch speaker pods if you can find them. i got mine from lenny (thanks again)! and they are great. i havent installed them yet, but they fit 6.5 inch speakers and tweater, so you can use component speakers instead of two way speakers which sound aweeeeesome.

cant wait to get my car running again with these.

[ericshere03]

<---91-92 speaker pods on the way

If possible could you take a few pics of the soeaker pods, i have a pair but am very curious as they dont have any backing! so i assume all the sound will fill the door, not the cabin and also water will easilt be able to get into the back of the speaker, how did toyota fit these? did they put plactic on the cavk or am i missing a piece? i was thinking of using dynamat and stick it to the back to insulate and keep water off.

[lenny]

i have a set for sale..92 6.5" speaker pods :)

[ross1]

lenny: how much?

ross

[lenny]

150 shipped

[yaitsme]

150 shipped

Your PM box is full ... payment's on it's way !!

[WeDgE]

What is the max depth of speaker you can have in the pre-91 doors (haven't taken mine off to measure yet)?

[iwannadie]

i got 6x9 sony speakers on my doors. used the door pull handle space to mount the speakers. relocated the window controls down and out of sight. it doesnt look that amazing, but i like it enough.

[CRE]

i got 6x9 sony speakers on my doors. used the door pull handle space to mount the speakers. relocated the window controls down and out of sight. it doesnt look that amazing, but i like it enough.

:ttiwwp:

[Allan_MA70]

anyone got the part numbers for the 6.5 speaker pods?

[lagged]

the cygnus site does :)

i think they go for 220 each from toyota... something like that.

[Allan_MA70]

that would be with the oem speakers yeah?

[89jdm7m]

http://gallery.sanitylapse.com/v/supra/thumbnails.php?album=158

:)

[lagged]

that would be with the oem speakers yeah?

yup, they come as an assembly with speakers.

[bwest]

I fit a set of 6.5 mids in my 88 doors years ago w/o the toyota pods. here is how i did it (in a nutshell):
1. measured distance between door and door pannel with speaker out.
2. cut a backing plate from 1/2 ply.
3. cut hole for speaker.
4. drilled holes in backing plate to fit toyota holes in door (from stock speaker pod)
5. mounted plate and speaker (no fit :3d_frown: )
6. cut spacers to fit between door and plate (between .5" and .75")
7. check speaker fit (fits - magnet clears door and big hole in door)
8. check door panel fit (no go :runaway: )
9. trim backing plate where it touches door pannel
10. re-fit door pannel (it fits, whoopee)
11. turn on stereo. sounds shitty :rant2: ....why?
12. take door panel back off, seal the air gap between backing plate and door with wall foam. trim as needed.
13. reassemble.
14. turn on stereo. fuckin rocks!!!


notes: this is a 6.5" CDT 2 way comp sys. I have the tweeters mounted in the kick pannels. It sounded like crap (before the foam) because the speakers were firing free air, and there was too much turbulence around the cone. by sealing around the plate with foam, the whole door becomes a figurtive box (we all know how boxes effect cone excursion and control movement) and cleans up the sound significantly. before anyone rags on me about using 1/2" plywood for a speaker mount, it was all that i had (1) and it has two layers of fiber glass on both sides to stiffen the wood and help dampen plywoods high resonent freq...believe me, it made quite the difference.