Ideal Setup For the Supra

[Fuzz420]

Would would you consider, the ideal all-around sound system.

Im a fan of pioneer, so i would have pioneer deck. I would run either mb quarts or eclispe components for mids and highs.This is where it gets tricky, the subs. You can have two 8's,10's,12's or 15's.In this scenerio i feel the 15's would be over kill. One reason too heavy.Another the sub is big and "laggy" so if u listen to fast music with kick drum style bass your 15 inch woofer will be sluggish.

Me personally i like the bass of 12'driver,over 10'driver. i would choose 1 12 inch woofer. Propobly, a Resonant Engineering 12,even tho there customer service is fubar,there subs are top notch.A close second would be this small company Called audiocue, ive neverheard them,but them same like a well built sub (www.audiocue.com).* I tried to find there webpage, they may have went under*

To Power everything i would run a stout battery under the hood.I own a kinetik 1400, the pros love these battereys, and i love it too so i will stick with them(www.kinetikaudio.com).For the alternator i would run a 150+ amp alternator.For an amplifier, this is where it gets tricky. You can run 1 or 2 amps.Todays technology, they produce some real nice 5 channel amps.( 4 channel plus 1 sub channel).Or you can do the small 4 channel amp, along with a second class d amp.I would personally go with some Like this Hifonics amp(http://www.maxxsonics.com/hifonics/amps_zeus.html).

I would prolly run 1/0 guage with approprate fusing for the amp, and check the voltage with a multimeter under full volume to determine if i should add a capKiller( im just not a fan of capacitors).At this point if you need that extra tuning capability u can always buy a digital eq, but i would calling quites here.Most of the newer highend cd/dvd players have lots of options to play with.

So tell me what you have in mind.Discuss

[s383mmber1]

Im into heavy electronic music, so for me im going with two 8's.

10's are even pushing it for me!

[born2drv]

Another option if you want to keep weight down but also have a lot of woofer cone size for deep bass.... JL audio makes a 13w0 or something. It's a 13" subwoofer, that runs in very small sealed enclosures and has decent output, small weight and shallow mounting depth. I think I may end up going with a single 13" woofer, which will weigh much less then a pair of 12s, and will have the deepthroat sound of the 15 but not be too sloppy and more punchy like a 12.

[estrellainc]

yeah- i didnt like the sound 15"s give when i played a fast song, the bass sounds sluggish with the beat.

so when i tried 2 memphis 12"s, it had the thickness i wanted at the moment.

eventually i ended up adding a pair of 8" tubes and further divided the midbass/lowbass with the crossovers.

that helped me get a broad bottom end for the voice. the low bass was punchier. it didnt have to play as many hi-bass notes.

(i know... more pieces-more distortion)
it sounded clean when i tuned it.

after a while i wished idda kept 15" and just designed a tunable timedelay to give the bass a few needed milliseconds to catchup.
(didnt clarion make a time delayed surround processor?)

[Turbo. Targa. Life.]

Ideal setup? As in what I plan to purchase, or what I WANT? lol

WANT:
Eclipse AVN5500 H/U or maybe even a Nakamichi head...
2 Nakamichi 6 1/2 component sets in front soundstage only
2JL13w7's or even RE's
Amps--Undecided. If I go JL, 1000/1's
Fiberglass enclosure from front of targa holder to rear of front seats, fiberglass kicks, fiberglass dash, and center console.

PLAN TO PURCHASE:
Alpine 9830 (already have)
Infinity Kappa 12" DVC (older model with CMMD cone) already have
Alpine MD-350
Fiberglass Enclosure
Speakers: Undecided. Everything I like, is way too expensive. Probably a set of Infinity Kappa Perfect components in the front, no rear fill.

[WeDgE]

Bigger drivers are "laggy"? Hehehe...that's not true at all. :D

[s383mmber1]

Bigger drivers are "laggy"? Hehehe...that's not true at all. :D
Sure it is. You can't tell me that 2 15 inch subs are gonna keep up with 2 8 inch subs on a fast electronic song. Unless you were sarcastic.......

[Yellow 13]

Im using a cheap kenwood deck for now. I plan on getting a really nice pioneer.

For speakers I have 4" infinities all around (Pre 89 setup)

I plan on making a FG mold for the rear behind the backseats with (2) 8" subs and a decenct amp. I might also put in two 6X5"s in back somewhere.

[WeDgE]

Sure it is. You can't tell me that 2 15 inch subs are gonna keep up with 2 8 inch subs on a fast electronic song. Unless you were sarcastic.......


Sure they will. It's all in the install.

Now, if it were the mid-80's, then you'd have a point...but today's motor technology negates the whole "bigger drivers are 'slower'" mentality.

If ya don't believe me:
http://www.adireaudio.com/Files/TechPapers/WooferSpeed.pdf

[gixxer750]

Here is my setup. I've got a kenwood head unit(don't remember the model, but it doesn't matter) I've got an alpine V12 4(100X4) channel amp running 6.5 alpine type R components in the front, with 5.25 alpine type r components in the rear. I'm running an alpine type R sub in a large bandpass in the hatch with ports facing rear of car. That is run by an alpine v12 2 channel bridged(550 watts)

I think it sounds pretty damn nice on any type of music.

[WeDgE]

I wish I had the drive to get mine installed... :-\


Here's what's waiting to go in:

Alpine DVA-9860
Alpine H700
Phoenix Gold Tantrum 600.4
Phoenix Gold Tantrum 1200.1
BG Neo3 Planar Tweeters (A-pillars)
Peerless Exclusive 7"s (Kickpanels)
Stereo Integrity Mag D2 12" (Sparetire well)

[s383mmber1]

Sure they will. It's all in the install.

Now, if it were the mid-80's, then you'd have a point...but today's motor technology negates the whole "bigger drivers are 'slower'" mentality.

If ya don't believe me:
http://www.adireaudio.com/Files/TechPapers/WooferSpeed.pdf
eh, you may be right, im not a audio guy in the least! But i probably couln't stand 15'' subwoffers base. I have an 8 in my room without any amp and i think its alittle too much.

Ill stick with jsut speakers!

[estrellainc]

yes indeed. lotsa new materials out there. titanium was unheard/unthought of in woofers (not so long) ago. maybe cuz ribbon tweeters sounded mettalic then

imo- if ya got too much bass, turn down the bass on the EQ.

bigger speakers (could equal) bigger sound. (unless your Mr. BOSE i guess)

one of my favorite urei systems used a horn, 15" mids, 15"woofer, and was paired with 18" bandpass subs.
AWESOME broad sound and NO LAG IN THE BASS either. 1980's technology!

just a little info- do what ya feel is good for ya.

[fiyota]

I just finished my little setup today... It's just a temporary thing for now untill I get my car all fixed up (coolant/maybe bhg/valve cover gasket issues)... right now this is what i'm running

Sony CDX-GT500 head unit - NEW
Sony XM-1252GTR amp - NEW
1 12" JL w0 4-ohm... - NEW
2 4" components in the front, probably stock ones... - WAS IN THE CAR ALREADY
2 5.25" RCA components in the back - NEW (just dropped in, so I guess old owner swapped in some 92 speaker pods, my car is an 88!)
and an old XM-3020 amp under the passenger seat... powering rear speakers - ALREADY IN THE CAR

It's a mix of gear, sounds good for now... those JL w0's are amazingly effecient and are pretty loud and sound quite clean for only 125w RMS