Best Upgrade

[SupraChrisMk3]

Ok, here's my question. I have an 89 N/A 5spd that I know that I will end up doing a GTE swap at some point in the future. I would like some advice on what would be the best "semi" buget upgrade that I would still be able to keep if I did the GTE swap. I already have a Pacesetter 2.5" cat-back and am leaning toward doing a R154 swap next. Everything else is stock. I just need some advice as to what would be the next best step that I could still use if I did the GTE swap. Thanks for the help.:icon_bigg

[Yellow 13]

Intake?

[SupraChrisMk3]

Intake?

Sorry, yes I also have a K&N FIPK filter kit. Ooops, I forgot.:nono:

[s383mmber1]

Nothing too mcuh---jsut do the swap!

[Yellow 13]

Put your money into suspension:icon_bigg

[GotToyota?]

I say one of the best upgrades if you plan on staying N/A is definently suspension. If you aren't necessarily fast, at least you'll be able to take fast and sharp turns.

-Matt

[SupraChrisMk3]

I don't necessarily plan on staying N/A. I just want to know what mods I could do that I could still keep on if I went with a GTE swap.

[rot 90na-t]

definitely suspenstion and brakes... im goin turbo as we speak, yet im utilizing my tokicos n h&r springs, brembo rotors, and plan on gettin sway bars and new bushings all around VERY soon... u really cant go wrong with some sort of suspension mods..

[GotToyota?]

definitely suspenstion and brakes... im goin turbo as we speak, yet im utilizing my tokicos n h&r springs, brembo rotors, and plan on gettin sway bars and new bushings all around VERY soon... u really cant go wrong with some sort of suspension mods..
Word. Turbo setup is going down soon, along with all new suspension and brakes. It's almost gonna be like a whole new car.

-Matt

[SupraChrisMk3]

What about changing out the W58 for the R154? My W58 is starting to feel its age. I'd like to split it up, do the tranny swap first and then do the GTE swap because I probably won't have the funds to do both at the same time. I definately want to swap out the tranny if I do the GTE swap. Is anyone out there running a R154 in a N/A, and if so just curious if there is actually any performance gain besides obviously just being a much stronger unit.

[lanky189]

dont bother swappig the trans right now...if anything buy it and store it until you're ready do do the whole thing... putting the r154 in while the engine is in the car is a pain...not impossible..just uncomfortable... the guys here are right...suspension and brakes...the two best mod areas to go at very little engine wise carries over from turbo to n/a

[Yellow 13]

Im gonna be running the W-58 on my GTE lol. Other than being a stronger unit I dont think there is any gain. Alot of people complain that the R154 isnt as crisp as the W-58. But the R154 is a very reliable transmission.

[Yellow 13]

You could also get rons FFIM I believe that would transfer over. I plan on getting one in the next month or two.

[DEFIANT 7M]

Actually the gearing of the R154 will make any N/A quicker.

[tubbie]

Put in a nitrous kit. You'll be faster and when you go gte, it will transfer right over... :bigthumb:

[1TuffSupra]

If you swap in a r154 the gains will not be substantial in any car compared to the w58. If you are set on swapping to a r154 and then turboing your car then go ahead and buy it and do like lanky said and swap it once you swap the car to a GTE. But your money will probably be better spent on the GTE now, hell you will atleast enjoy it more than that new tranny. You wont need to swap until you hit about 300-350whp (atleast from what ive found) so if you do decide to get the tranny first, just sit on it until you buy the motor.

[bluemax]

I've done the HKS Sport exhaust, the expensive K & N filter kit (FIPK or something like that), sway bars, shocks, 245ZR16 tires and NA>T.

Of course the best performance was the NA>T.
But for me, the best NA mod was the suspension upgrade (Tokico TEMS, F/R sway bars, and 245ZR16 tires). The NA won't gain significant HP and torque with any of the NA basic mods.

[91T breezen']

If your N/A has an open diff, try to source a LSD from a 87-88 Turbo. 3.90 gearing I believe. 89-92's were 3.73, and my old 87 N/A, which will soon have a 1JZ, is sportin' a 4.30 LSD. Great for off the line punch, but murder on gas mileage and top end speed, unless your'e rollin' tires that are considerably taller than stock! Don't waste your money on N/A mods if you are going to turbo the car though.:nono: Once you are boosting, you'll will just kick yourself!:biglaugh:

[Nick M]

You could always fit a 1UZ from an SC400.

[supra-addiction]

definitely suspenstion and brakes... im goin turbo as we speak, yet im utilizing my tokicos n h&r springs, brembo rotors, and plan on gettin sway bars and new bushings all around VERY soon... u really cant go wrong with some sort of suspension mods..


your putting a turbo on a 7m-ge?
--->if i was to put a turbo on my 7mge
what are some things that i would have to change?
thanks.

[Supranforever]

Just search around on some of the threads here, Half na-t has been discussed a bagillion times man. :) Best mods to the n/a are infact the suspension/brakes.

[CRE]

Suspension, brakes, differential, wideband, Maft Pro, lighter wheels (if you're still sporting sawblades), kick up the timing just a bit.

[iwannadie]

im in the same boat with the na planning going turbo. i decided to do everything to get the car ready to handle the power now then actually add the power at the very end.

i started with a full brake upgrade, pads, rotors, lines, calipers. right now im doing springs and struts. next will be sway bars.

then i think ill do r154 just because i dont like auto anymore ha. at the same time ill go 1pc aluminum drive shaft.

after that im not sure, i basically want everything done to the car before i do the motor. i dont want to touch anything under the hood until the motor goes in then start adding under the hood.

[thechori]

Ok, here's my question. I have an 89 N/A 5spd that I know that I will end up doing a GTE swap at some point in the future. I would like some advice on what would be the best "semi" buget upgrade that I would still be able to keep if I did the GTE swap. I already have a Pacesetter 2.5" cat-back and am leaning toward doing a R154 swap next. Everything else is stock. I just need some advice as to what would be the next best step that I could still use if I did the GTE swap. Thanks for the help.:icon_bigg
well if you're going turbo, you're gonna have to get rid of the 2.5, it'll be too much restriction

[s383mmber1]

For NA-T information look at my post in the referance section.

ALSO view my build thread in the signature of mine.

7mge + a gte turbo and manifold = :evil2:

[Fuzz420]

1 piece aluminum driveshaft ftw!!!!!!!!!!:bigthumb:

[CF_Sapper]

supention and breaks and go out right now and tighten every bolt under the car it really sucks when the tierod bolt lets go
:nono:

[astigracing]

coil-overs, wilwood big brake, lightened flywheel, aluminum one piece drive shaft, light weight rims, new complete bushings, catback exhaust, cai.

the above mods will give your n/a great balance and descent power.

[935motorsports]

#1 Maintenance - It doesn't matter how fast your car is, if it doesn't run right or leaks oil. Fix all the issues related to the engine first, especially cracked hoses and o2 sensor.

#2 Brakes - You can't go fast if you can't stop. Make sure the braking system is in order.

#3 Suspension - Taking corners fast is very fun. Even without turbo, the supra is a great cruiser in the turns. A proper suspension setup can be a blast.

#4 Catalytic Converter - Yours is probabably old and clogged. Inspect it and replace/remove as needed.

I have had both a 400hp MK3 with stock tems and shitty brakes and currently a stock NA with coilovers and good brakes. I can tell you right now that the NA is more of a blast to drive. There is more to life then freeway runs in a straight line.

Probably the best NA mod I have ever done was replacing the factory converter. Maybe only in my case, but it was probably clogged. After replacing just that item, the car really woke up in the top end and was even more fun to drive overall.

[astigracing]

i remember gutting out my cc back in the days and paired it w/ an old school hks catback and header. surely felt that top end power.

my header was a pacesetter and i abused that sucker everyday.....finally blew a hg but never cracked that header.