charcoal canister removal

[jza70mk3]

would removing it cause the car to miss or idle wrong

[IJ.]

If you didn't vent the tank in some way maybe.

[cruzinbill]

ok ive looked at a diagram a few times now with this, isnt the vent line for the tank the bigline leaving the charcoal canister. because before i took mine off whenever i opened my fuel cap PSHHH now that i have it removed it doesnt do it. lol i even put it back on after a while and drove around it did it again so i was thinkin that a clogged charcoal canister is bad also

[IJ.]

Yes the tank only vents while the engine is running, the tiny vac hose on the cannister opens it to atmosphere.

I don't really understand why you guys are removing the CC as it doesn't affect performance in any way.

If it's for "looks" get the small JDM plastic cannister and hide it leaving the system functional.

[shaeff]

drill a hole in the gas cap, and put a plug on the end of the hardline coming into the engine bay near the exhaust side. problem solved.

-shaeff

[jza70mk3]

so then i does cause it to i removed mine for a cleaner engine bay

[johnathan1]

shaeff: I seriously doubt that setup is emissions legal in CA?

[IJ.]

Not to mention dangerous as it will vent raw fuel on a full tank when cornering.....

[supra90turbo]

I had removed mine and put a hose tucked into the fender, but perhaps I'll try to find a small one at the junk yard and hide it someplace. Any ideas on which one would be suitable, Ian?

[jza70mk3]

what if you get a vented gas cap

[IJ.]

Kurt: The JDM Supra's have a compact plastic one so anyone that has a half cut sitting around should have one!

jza: That would work as the have a one way valve.

[supra90turbo]

Excellent, man! I will have to try to remember that.

[jza70mk3]

I had removed mine and put a hose tucked into the fender, but perhaps I'll try to find a small one at the junk yard and hide it someplace. Any ideas on which one would be suitable, Ian?

what does this do for it and how do you do it john lunsford (jblmk3) did this similar but he put the hose next to the intake

[jza70mk3]

Kurt: The JDM Supra's have a compact plastic one so anyone that has a half cut sitting around should have one!

jza: That would work as the have a one way valve.


im confused what will work the drilling gas cap thing?

[IJ.]

A Proper vented gas cap.

[jza70mk3]

wonder where i can get one

[supra90turbo]

wonder where i can get one
What? Are you thinking out loud here?
If that was a question, it should have been followed by a question mark (?).

You can probably get one at a place such as an auto parts store. You will, however, need to bring yours in, and probably have to ask to see the vented gas caps they have in stock, and match yours up.

[Supra5MGTE]

I'm looking to buy some vented gas caps for my 4runner and mk2. for now I just leave the caps on on a tad loose.

[jza70mk3]

What? Are you thinking out loud here?
If that was a question, it should have been followed by a question mark (?).

You can probably get one at a place such as an auto parts store. You will, however, need to bring yours in, and probably have to ask to see the vented gas caps they have in stock, and match yours up.


someone alwasy has some remark dony they???????? yes it was a question!!!!!!are you happy now?????????

[shaeff]

woah, there... calm down. i thought you were thinking out loud too. haha. actually, i thought it was kindof funny. :) anyway. my method probably isnt legal anywhere. i also never run over a half tank, for reasons i'm sure you all can figure out. ;)

i used to have the steel line vented through the fender, but the cabin of the car started to smell like raw fuel, so i capped it off. :)

-shaeff

[Supra5MGTE]

so whats the best method? go find a vented cap at the parts store?

[billspreston01]

gee wiz...why don't you ever run over a half tank? too much weight? hahaha...you need more power then ;)

[jza70mk3]

leagle isnt a prob i have a guy that can inspect it no prob

[jester1341]

yeah my CC is removed to clean up and make room for my catch can

but i have not capped my line, i am interested in the JDM CC, anyone have this setup?? pics??
anyone got the vented cap from autozone/advance?? P/N?? price?

john

[jza70mk3]

did you vent your cap, also did your car start missing?

[jza70mk3]

what about where the hoses run to what should i do about them

[shaeff]

gee wiz...why don't you ever run over a half tank? too much weight? hahaha...you need more power then ;)

heh, but i'm already around 300rwhp or a bit more, and what better way to shave weight then to not fill your damn tank all the way? haha. (and i have a 4.3 differential, so it goes pretty good)

anyway, back on topic:

what i did when i removed mine was this-

take out cannister, take off vacuum lines going to the BVSV, (you can just leave it open, it'll be fine) plug the hardline on the firewall (or make an extension for it and put it going out into the fender), then vent the gas cap. done.

-shaeff

[jza70mk3]

cool. thanks!

[supra90turbo]

:phew:

[cruzinbill]

what actually happens tho if yost unkook the line and leave it there lol

[supra90turbo]

You fill the engine bay with dangerous fuel vapors, then wait until one of your plug wires goes bad and arcs out on the Valve Cover.

Then you die.

[cruzinbill]

Yesss i knew that would be said lol this whole topic and this is the first time finnaly mentioned what will happen. or might any way. I figured every one would have jumped on you will blow your car up bandwagon.
But they didnt. So my .02 is make sure you dont do as others did and go down further and cut it so it vents under the car. I got a vid somewhere of a supra when i lived in OK. A guy hit a speed bump and it sparked on his DP and caught on fire cause the line was next to it.
Ill try to find the vid.

[jza70mk3]

lol. i never thought of that!!!!

[bcg04]

You can get the Stant vented gas cap at Wal Mart.

Here is an idea that I use on my ride which involves rerouting the canister line at the source ( the gas tank) and routing it out by the filler neck in back, all in combination with the vented gas cap. Then no need to worry about engine bay.

http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1182

[Boost_happy]

I removed my cc and placed one of those small breather filters on the line. alows it to breath filtered air and it looks cool.

[shaeff]

I removed my cc and placed one of those small breather filters on the line. alows it to breath filtered air and it looks cool.

that's just as bad as directly venting it to the atmosphere. the vapors are still escaping under the hood, which is dangerous as all hell, considering the facts that: 1) the hot exhaust manifold/turbo assy. is right there, and 2) if a spark plug wire grounds out, you're toast, literally. :(

get a vented gas cap, and block off that line. eventually, (probably when it gets warm again) i'm compltetely removing that line from the engine bay, and venting it out to the back of the car, right from the tank. it's super easy.

-shaef

[Supra5MGTE]

do you have that vented stant gas cap part # ?? I wonder what PSI valve it has in it.

[jester1341]

i'm gonna deff run my line out the back or by the filler either way i should get it away from my broken spark plug wire[soon to be replaced, but did arc a few times :0] at least i took the metal pipe off the CC and routed the line out the stock hole the CC used in the wheel well

still a little more 'explosive' than i like to be most of the time

john

P.S. i already had one car catch fire on me...i don't need a 2nd[FC with leaky PD :( ]