"Turbo A" Replica?

[RogueSteel]

Does anyone know what I would have to do to my 7M to have it replicate the Turbo A stats?
I am doing a swap regardless, but I'm contemplating inbetween the 1JZ-GTE VVT-i, 2JZ-GTE, 7M-GTE"U", and the 1UZ-FETT[SC?] :3d_frown:

Whatever gets the most votes wins, so vote and keep an eye out for the build thread. :icon_surp

[martin p]

Turbo A= different 3000 pipe(larger bore and different design) different throttle body(larger bore) runs Map not Maf So no AFM,i think the turbo is slightly larger too (not 100% sure on that). unique body graphics and rear badge, anthracite colored saw blades,

Oh and right hand drive.:naughty:

[RogueSteel]

Well I'm not going RHD far lol. so more like LHD Turbo A Knock off -_-

[Boostedmkiii]

You would have to find the different parts listed above... (good luck)

There were only a few differences

[Neodeuccio]

Stick with the 7m.

[Boostedmkiii]

Forgot to ask: is there a reason one of your options isnt a 1jzgte (non vvt-i)?

[RogueSteel]

Forgot to ask: is there a reason one of your options isnt a 1jzgte (non vvt-i)?

Realistically it's what I might end up with, I just didn't like what I heard about it's stock low end performance. :3d_frown:

And Neo- my 7M is an N/A with 225 on it :1zhelp:

[IJ.]

Why the fascination with 20+ year old technology?

If you built a Group A replica it would make sense.

[RogueSteel]

I've got a 20 yr old budget :)

[IJ.]

I've got a 20 yr old budget :)

LOL'd :D

So a Geo Metro and 2 minute noodles?

[RogueSteel]

LOL'd :D

So a Geo Metro and 2 minute noodles?

Sure, if I can put 42 PSI through the T66 with no compression in pistons 1 and 3 I'll rock the MSG noodles :3d_frown:

[IJ.]

In all seriousness a 2JZ-GE NaT makes a lot of sense in your position, might want to consider that an option.

[RogueSteel]

In all seriousness a 2GZ-GE NaT makes a lot of sense in your position, might want to consider that an option.

I had that priced out as follows

2JZ-GE-$999 + Shipping
'86-'89 1JZ/2JZ swap motor mount brackets - $149
'86-'88 solid motor mounts- $120
1JZ/2JZ to W58 Bell Housing- $335
1JZ/2JZ W58 Flywheel- $275
ARP 1JZ Flywheel Bolts- $30
ACT Stage 4 W58 Clutch Kit - $470
W58 Transmission Rebuild Kit-$210
GREDDY Speed Cut Defender for 1JZ/2JZ- $75
2JZ-GE Complete Engine Gasket Set-$295
Total = $2958

It really does seem pretty good, but I know that setup needs some tweaks. Care to bring it into proportion lol?

[IJ.]

The beauty of it is it'll run fine on the 7M electronics until you can afford management down the track so makes a good bare bones type swap.

The other choices will need a big investment in time/cash to make run at all.

[RogueSteel]

My 7M harness is on its way out :/
So I'll grab another one get it fused, and throw in a 2JZ, seems logical.

[IJ.]

Added an option to the poll :)

[Keros]

In all seriousness a 2GZ-GE NaT makes a lot of sense in your position, might want to consider that an option.

Why would he want a V12 that's nearly impossible to find?


ooooooooohhhhh, you meant 2JZ-GE, not 2GZ-FE.

I wonder if that guy putting the 2GZ into the MkII ever finished...

To add in my opinion on the topic, follow the road most travelled with a JZ swap if you're not electrically inclined. Almost every aspect of the swap is well documented, so it's not rocket science. Otherwise, roll the dice with a 7M build.

Going with a twin turbo 1UZ will involve a rediculous amount of custom fab, alot of headaches, set backs, and creativity. A 7M build or JZ swap will only have alot of these things...

[IJ.]

Why would he want a V12 that's nearly impossible to find?


ooooooooohhhhh, you meant 2JZ-GE, not 2GZ-FE.

I wonder if that guy putting the 2GZ into the MkII ever finished...

LOL :p
(It's a 1GZ-FE)

[RogueSteel]

Time to troll the FS section for a 2JZ complete long block xD

EDIT: The poll results are incorrect, it seems to have mistaken IJ's vote to have a value equal to "One"

[JDMMA70]

its not a turbo A without a 7M!

[RogueSteel]

its not a turbo A without a 7M!

Ok, find me a 7M-GTEU with an R154 and an ECU and harness and I'll do it. :icon_surp

[kwnate]

Ok, find me a 7M-GTEU with an R154 and an ECU and harness and I'll do it. :icon_surp

Do you know what the "U" stands for?

[1SLW7M]

http://1uzsupra.com/

complete 1uz swap into a mk3... not exactly turbo a replica but the motor has some crazy potential.

[Sside]

its not a turbo A without a 7M!

x2:: snowart ::

[Boostedmkiii]

its not a turbo A without a 7M!

True.

[RogueSteel]

Well the question was regarding the Turbo A thing, but im not saying "I want a 2JZ Turbo A" I know better.

[JDMMA70]

Ok, find me a 7M-GTEU with an R154 and an ECU and harness and I'll do it. :icon_surp

All 7M's are 7MGTEu's. Just putting that out there.

Look on the firewall of an JDM Ma70 the engine code for all of them is 7M-GTEu

[RogueSteel]

Ah ok good to know, just curious could i run a 2JZ-GTE the same way I would run a GE NA-T?

[70dreams]

yo i love the response ive got a 20yo budget and truth br told what is old is dtill ney in certain sapects if you really look at the big picture of things. and 1jz non vvt-i is such a great feature

[*james*]

I wouldn't call it a turbo-A replica without the turbo-A features on a regular mk3, right?

[JDMMA70]

I wouldn't call it a turbo-A replica without the turbo-A features on a regular mk3, right?

If the features are there it still wont be a legit Turbo A but itll be as close as you can get. If you wanna get real close. need a hardtop MK3 manufactured between August 88 and November 88. Turbo A's were manufactured in September or October i cant remember exactly. Youll need one with gray leather interior. And paint the car black. Bilstein shocks, and TT-R springs (Same thing as the turbo A springs) powder coat the sawblades black. a map based fuel management system. make the throttle body larger somehow, larger 3000 pipe and shave off the "3000". Bigger turbo. the Turbo A intercooler is bigger dunno how youd go about that. Cams are different to my understanding. (Can someone verify). Folding Mirrors (LHD Euros), JDM/Euro foglamps. Decals, and emblems. Momo steering wheel, and shift knob. Then id think youd have something as close to a turbo A as you can get.