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If anything I have been the complete opposite.
When I was younger in college I was not as active here or at least was broke and couldn't do much beyond drive the vehicle.

Now that I have some more $ and time to invest into this vehicle I am doing it right.
My co-workers do not believe how much time I am able to put into the vehicle even with a career and family at home.
You have to be willing to give up all useless television, video games, general lazyness and stay up very late working on the vehicle.
Most people I talk with don't have the self control or motivation to give up such things as TV, social media, drinking, ect..

As time goes on I see less and less interesting old vehicles on the road.
Will be a nice feeling once I am able to daily drive mine again, I see zero MK3's or MK4's on the road around here.
Too many good vehicles out there hiding in garages being neglected.
Cars are meant to be used as intended, not become a trophy that never sees daylight.

Other areas of the country do not match what is happening here, thank goodness.
I think rust is a big player in that where you are. Every time I travel to the midwest or east coast I think it's amazing how new all the cars are. I will never forget my first work trip out of college up to upstate New York. I saw current generation cars with rusted through fenders. That just doesn't happen in CO/AZ - not even to 15 year old cars. It's a totally different population of vehicles on the road.
 

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Yeah lots of people in the arid states that have no clue how to deal with rust.
They don't realize how easy they have it.

Come work as a mechanic in the rust belt for a few days, lol.
Experience seized bolts, on 4 year old vehicles.
 

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I'm back. It's been a while. Glad to see the site getting some attention, and I hope this can become me everyday place again. This thread is exciting, seeing so many familiar names beat me here
 
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Pirate, you're exactly right man. Motivation goes a LONG way. Took me two years to get mine to where it is now, and the only time I was playing videogames was when it was too cold to comfortably work out in the garage. The other 8 or so months of the year... figure I was working 15-16 hour days, between my normal job and the Supra.

Results speak for themselves though! :)
 

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First off, I'm glad to see Jeff is starting to take care of the forums now.

I had worried about this site and all it's information when activity here dropped off a couple years ago. Including me. I used to be on here everyday, but I hardly posted anything the last few years. Too busy with other things. Namely, I got a 4Runner and built that and have been enjoying the heck out of it. The Supra has spent a lot of time sitting, but I have no intentions of getting rid of it. I pulled her out back in April for the first time this year, drove her for the day and then parked her again. Since then the first time I drove it was two weeks ago. I'm trying to drive it once or twice a week from here on out, so long as the weather is good and she keeps running good.

As time goes on I see less and less interesting old vehicles on the road.
Will be a nice feeling once I am able to daily drive mine again, I see zero MK3's or MK4's on the road around here.
Too many good vehicles out there hiding in garages being neglected.
Cars are meant to be used as intended, not become a trophy that never sees daylight.
The last part of this is very true, and one of the reasons I'm going to start driving mine more. It's just hard when stuff gets piled up behind the car slowly which means you have to clear that out to even pull the car out of the garage, then the dust starts accumulating on the car and it looks bad, and the 4Runner is so much easier to drive. Just get in it and go. It's a compounding problem you really have to stay on top of.

I also agree with the comments on Tacomaworld. Tacomaworld has a great user interface in my opinion. It's easy to use on a computer, and even on a phone. It's the only forum I post on from my phone. No apps, just through Google Chrome, and it works wonderfully. I don't know if Supramania can be changed to a new more modern interface, or if that would even help traffic here. The difference is Tacomaworld has 170k members, and there were just over 100k MK3s produced starting 31 years ago. MK3s are pretty rare now, especially considering most car owners aren't part of forums. When I first got my MK3 in 2010 I would see one maybe once or twice a week. I knew where the 4-5 I saw frequently were parked either for work or at the owner's house. Now I don't know of any near me, and I've probably seen one in the last 6 months that wasn't mine.
 

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First off, I'm glad to see Jeff is starting to take care of the forums now.

I don't know if Supramania can be changed to a new more modern interface, or if that would even help traffic here.
It can get a more modern interface, and it will be shortly. I think it can help traffic here, but you're right, the number of cars keeps going down. Things like Tacomas and 4Runners are still being made, hard to compete with that, haha. I have some ideas though.

Jeff
 

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It can get a more modern interface, and it will be shortly. I think it can help traffic here, but you're right, the number of cars keeps going down. Things like Tacomas and 4Runners are still being made, hard to compete with that, haha. I have some ideas though.

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Sup Jeff, you took over the forums? Mike and Theresa still around?

Sorry for the late reply to you all, Jay, Tony, Jeff, ForcedTq( your on Reddit with me HAH).

Where the hell is Ian!?

I'm actually about to start building and getting mine back on the road again. Wife and I purchased an abandoned farm, and have been over the last 2 years restoring it and turning it into a equine and livestock rescue, so a ton of my money goes into it. Vet/Hay/feed/farrier/etc cost a lot. We currently have 11 horses, 3 pigs, 5 goats, 5 mini cows, 4 cats, a rabbit, and 6 dogs lol, so all my time after work is spent working on the place, I'm almost done building the 2nd barn and then I have 4 more run-ins to build out in the pastures. Lot's and Lot's of work. Good thing is I have a 2k sq ft garage that came with the place, concrete floors and a lift I'll be buying probably next year.

I do hope this place turns around because I do miss everyone and how fun it was back in the day. I'll be keeping this site on my pinned tabs now.
 

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What up Mario? Congrats on the huge property. Sounds like a lot of work for sure.
I'm really hoping to get my car started this Saturday. I keep trying to start it and it keeps going kaboom. I think my timing is off. I have my old tune put in the megasquirt but it still won't start. I'm checking the timing and recalibrating everything this weekend.
 

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Whats up SM!
I'm still around. I also got the site warnings a while back and wondered what was up. I don't know why all the pics in my thread aren't showing up anymore, I didn't make any changes..
I sold my Supras and my Celica. Got a few VW's, a BMW and just recently a Porsche. I guess I have a thing for german stuff.
Hope everyone is doing well!
 

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Mario, Mike pokes his head in once in a while, I can't recall the last time I saw Teresa or Ian, unfortunately. Place just isn't quite the same without them, I must admit. Glad to hear you're doing the ranch life. Not really my thing, but I do have a lot of respect for those that can and do, it's both damned hard and honest work.

Jay, how are things looking on the laptop? Any sync issues? Always liked the diagnostic side of Tunerstudio... hardly know what I'm looking at, but it feels welcoming all the same. :)

Buckshot, you moved on from Supras to German cars? I don't think you have a German thing, I think you have a masochist thing... :p
 

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What up Mario? Congrats on the huge property. Sounds like a lot of work for sure.
I'm really hoping to get my car started this Saturday. I keep trying to start it and it keeps going kaboom. I think my timing is off. I have my old tune put in the megasquirt but it still won't start. I'm checking the timing and recalibrating everything this weekend.
That sucks :( I'm really ready to start tearing mine apart and going single and push it to around 500 to the wheels and drive it once or twice a week to work lol. Sounds like you need a new tune though, as your MAP aren't you? Car should run without anything turbo wise on it lol


Whats up SM!
I'm still around. I also got the site warnings a while back and wondered what was up. I don't know why all the pics in my thread aren't showing up anymore, I didn't make any changes..
I sold my Supras and my Celica. Got a few VW's, a BMW and just recently a Porsche. I guess I have a thing for german stuff.
Hope everyone is doing well!
Bucks HOT Glass....what is up! Pics are probably from photobucket being jackasses, Imgur is the place to dump uploads now. You going to be looking for another Supra any time soon?

You know you could always do a BMW V12 swap into one. lol

Sup, your pics are dead. Upload them to Imgur, it handles all of Reddits traffic like a champ, so shit will be around for a good while.

Mario, Mike pokes his head in once in a while, I can't recall the last time I saw Teresa or Ian, unfortunately. Place just isn't quite the same without them, I must admit. Glad to hear you're doing the ranch life. Not really my thing, but I do have a lot of respect for those that can and do, it's both damned hard and honest work.
Well damn, that sucks, was hoping the old ass Aussie was still around lol. And yes Farm life is hard work, Pencil pusher by day, and working on the farm by night lol, hopefully soon it will be just maintenance mode and I can breathe easier when I get home every night.
 

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TE, you might be right about the Cayenne, but the old vw stuff is pretty forgiving. ;)
Pretty sure old VW's can be fixed MacGuyver style, but your insight about the Cayenne might explain the depreciation I see on those. Every once in a while, I think to myself, if I HAD to have an SUV...

...it'd be a Land Cruiser. :p

Bucks HOT Glass....what is up! Pics are probably from photobucket being jackasses, Imgur is the place to dump uploads now. You going to be looking for another Supra any time soon?

You know you could always do a BMW V12 swap into one. lol

Well damn, that sucks, was hoping the old ass Aussie was still around lol. And yes Farm life is hard work, Pencil pusher by day, and working on the farm by night lol, hopefully soon it will be just maintenance mode and I can breathe easier when I get home every night.
Yeah, Photocucket's greed really boned the internet... I'm really hoping the redesign of SM is photo upload friendly. I am on another forum (Retromags) and they host all their own content, due to a lot of issues with content hosts over the years...

If one were really intent on doing a V12 into a Toyota, they already did the hard work, the 1GZ-FE. There was one on Ebay a while back for $4500. ;)

And yeah, I miss Ian and the rest of the gang too. Hell, part of what guided my build, or at least the limitations of it, was the mentality of, "would Ian think this unnecessarily complicated or weird?" and it served me well.
 

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I still poke around sometimes, but don't have much to add since I sold my Supra (on BaT no less!). I have gotten pretty deep into autocross, and drive an S2000 in "STR class" in the SCCA solo rulebook.

Supras remain the only forum/group of owners that I've ever actually talked with and gotten to know to when I owned the car. All of my other vehicles (Hondas, Subarus, etc.) I've never bothered getting involved. I still have a lot of friends from my Supra days that I'm sure I'll be friends with long into the future. A new Supra doesn't seem in the cards for me however - my "taste" in vehicles has changed quite bit from when I had mine.

Side note though - it's awesome to see Jeff take the reins at SM and try to get it up to date, relevant, and virus-free. I'm sure I'll keep poking in my head in here from time to time. (Oh, and I can probably help a bit when people ask suspension questions. :))
 

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I still poke around sometimes, but don't have much to add since I sold my Supra (on BaT no less!). I have gotten pretty deep into autocross, and drive an S2000 in "STR class" in the SCCA solo rulebook.

Supras remain the only forum/group of owners that I've ever actually talked with and gotten to know to when I owned the car. All of my other vehicles (Hondas, Subarus, etc.) I've never bothered getting involved. I still have a lot of friends from my Supra days that I'm sure I'll be friends with long into the future. A new Supra doesn't seem in the cards for me however - my "taste" in vehicles has changed quite bit from when I had mine.
You know, a C6 Z06 would have been a smarter car for me than my Mk3, they fill very similar missions, and yet the Vette would have been done and reliable, out of the gate, for probably half of what I have into my Mk3, and an S2000, as I'm sure you're well aware, is a better Miata.

Yet, here I am, Mk3 in the back of the garage waiting on warmer weather (or me to scrap together money for winter tires), and daily driving a Miata... Clearly I make bad decisions with cars haha. I blame a lot of you for me sticking around the Supra world...

Nothing wrong with variety though! Any regrets on letting the Supra go, or does the Honda satisfy all the fun driving needs?

Te, I'm cautiously optimistic. Awesome truck so far!
I've heard it said that you can buy an ugly Porsche, you can buy a slow Porsche, but the one Porsche you cannot buy is a poorly built one. My limited experience with the brand suggests that is a truism.
 

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I absolutely love my 955.

Looks like it's time to rebuild the front diff, though. :)
 

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Yeah, Photocucket's greed really boned the internet... I'm really hoping the redesign of SM is photo upload friendly. I am on another forum (Retromags) and they host all their own content, due to a lot of issues with content hosts over the years...

If one were really intent on doing a V12 into a Toyota, they already did the hard work, the 1GZ-FE. There was one on Ebay a while back for $4500. ;)

And yeah, I miss Ian and the rest of the gang too. Hell, part of what guided my build, or at least the limitations of it, was the mentality of, "would Ian think this unnecessarily complicated or weird?" and it served me well.
Issue with hosting your own uploads? Bandwidth (space not so much anymore, as that shit got super super cheap).

What would IJ do? lol.

Mario, Miguel was doing the BMW V-12 in a supra thing for a while, ha.
Te, I'm cautiously optimistic. Awesome truck so far!
I thought I remembered someone on here doing the swap, wasn't sure though if I had just dreamed it up.
 

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Any regrets on letting the Supra go, or does the Honda satisfy all the fun driving needs?
So far, no regrets. It's a relief to not have a car that's *constantly* needing money and attention, for a driving experience that didn't really justify it (namely from a handling/autocross/etc. prospective).

The S2000 is also pretty much the best car I've ever driven, and relatively competitive in its autocross class to boot. My focus has shifted a lot towards improving as a driver versus "building" up a car; I could expand on this more, but I feel like I'm derailing the thread enough already. :cool:
 

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My goal is for the new forum to be much more content/media/photo-friendly, however as was stated, storage can be a concern for sure. As it stands, I don't think it would be too big of a deal for a while; at some point we may need to consider other hosting, but the forum isn't busy enough for that to be a big concern for quite some time.

More work will be done on this in a few weeks. Life is too busy right now to do much more than tinker with the new software.

Jeff
 

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Issue with hosting your own uploads? Bandwidth (space not so much anymore, as that shit got super super cheap).

What would IJ do? lol.

I thought I remembered someone on here doing the swap, wasn't sure though if I had just dreamed it up.
Perhaps I'm a bit technically challenged, but I wouldn't know where to look for hosting anymore. I'm not going to leave a computer on 24/7 to host some pictures, just not very economical. Plus, our max upload speed for the internet connection I can get is a joke. We're talking something like 800kbps. Given the size of pictures that I take, you'd be reliving the dark ages of 56k all over again.

WWIJD indeed. Hence I ended up with a dry sump 1j, because I never gave much thought as to why it is the only one in the world... apparently everyone else was smart enough to start with the 2j. :p

As for the V12 swap, someone on here was swapping a 1GZ into a Mk2. Not sure who, but I believe they were from Australia, because, really, where else would such a crazy idea come from?

So far, no regrets. It's a relief to not have a car that's *constantly* needing money and attention, for a driving experience that didn't really justify it (namely from a handling/autocross/etc. prospective).

The S2000 is also pretty much the best car I've ever driven, and relatively competitive in its autocross class to boot. My focus has shifted a lot towards improving as a driver versus "building" up a car; I could expand on this more, but I feel like I'm derailing the thread enough already. :cool:
Totally understand what you mean. I daily a Miata, and while the only mods to it (before the lift, but that's a different story entirely), are an intake and wheels / tires, there are many places where it is a much faster car than the Supra, despite having about 1/5 the power, and 360mm (combined) less contact patch width.

I love that about the S2000, that while they CAN be made better, they're a damn fine tool to start with for performance driving. Autocross is a new love of mine, starting earlier this year. Supra may not be the most competitive, but it is so much fun to drive that I don't care. I think once I get the driver mod sorted out, it has a chance to be somewhat competitive. It'll probably never be top rung, but I'm ok with that, as it is meant to be a road race car anyway. Let it stretch its legs, and I doubt many of the cars I've been cone competing with will really stand a chance.

Weird as this might sound, I tried to make the Supra as much like a Miata as possible, and it has worked out fairly well. Miatas can be thrown around, driven with the pedals and it is a LOT of fun, my Supra ended up with a very similar character, especially once I got the power steering sorted. :) Still, if the day comes that a nice blue on blue AP2 happens to be in the same room with me when I have disposable income to throw at it... an S2000 might be coming home.

My goal is for the new forum to be much more content/media/photo-friendly, however as was stated, storage can be a concern for sure. As it stands, I don't think it would be too big of a deal for a while; at some point we may need to consider other hosting, but the forum isn't busy enough for that to be a big concern for quite some time.

Jeff
Jeff, logistically speaking, would it be reasonable to host our build thread pictures here on SM? Or should we try to sort out other options on our own?

I'm considering putting my build threads into video format and uploading them to my youtube. I think that has a far lesser chance of being destroyed by yet another photo hosting site going kaput.
 

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Been here on and off for a few years now when I have to do some research.
Trying now to be a part of everything but it does seem a lil dead here now idk.
 
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Everyone goes to Facebook, Twitter,... I guess. Social media is growing up very fast.
Unfortunately, I don't like these places, all information is very crazy and you will not know whether you should believe or not.
 

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I think rust is a big player in that where you are. Every time I travel to the midwest or east coast I think it's amazing how new all the cars are. I will never forget my first work trip out of college up to upstate New York. I saw current generation cars with rusted through fenders. That just doesn't happen in CO/AZ - not even to 15 year old cars. It's a totally different population of vehicles on the road.
I live in this area and you are lucky to get 5 years out of a brand new vehicle before your fuel lines rot away due to the government issued corrosive agents they dose the road with. I believe it is a conspiracy to make you keep buying new vehicles and fund the government.
 

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What up Mario? Congrats on the huge property. Sounds like a lot of work for sure.
I'm really hoping to get my car started this Saturday. I keep trying to start it and it keeps going kaboom. I think my timing is off. I have my old tune put in the megasquirt but it still won't start. I'm checking the timing and recalibrating everything this weekend.
so.... I've been fighting some issues for a while (like 6 months) tracing and retracing wires. Turns out the polarity on the coil plugs were off on 2 coils, and polarity seems to matter.
 

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so.... I've been fighting some issues for a while (like 6 months) tracing and retracing wires. Turns out the polarity on the coil plugs were off on 2 coils, and polarity seems to matter.
Are you running the vvti 2jz-GE coils? The 2 pin's on those coils do matter. I followed a wrong wiring diagram on the 2jz coil mod and it sounded like a misfire and was very jerky at lower speeds but once each of the pins on 3 coils were switched around, it ran fine.
 

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I still lurk occasionally. I wrecked mine a few years ago driving on old tires. They had full tread, just too old and hard and I didn't realize it.

I would love a donor body or car, I went to school for automotive collision repair so if anyone knows of a cheap Supra even if it has been wrecked in the back, or side (mine needs the front clip basically) please let me know. less than $800.00 I am a buyer all day long for a 90+.

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