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Outofstep - The Glock safety is rumor from what I understand. The new Glock 21SF has an ambi mag catch, but no external safety. The do make manual safety devices for certain LEO's in other countries, but they've never marketed one here and I have yet to hear anything saying they're definitely going to in the US. I'm like you, no flip-flap safeties on my damn carry guns! My finger is my safety!

AyeMate - Guns of that era weren't blued - they had a finish called 'Armory Bright'. It basically was brushed metal. Over the years the guns pick up a petina that makes them look blued. With the condition of that gun, I'd say either bluing it to replicate the petina or cleaning it up to look like the armory bright would both be about as bad as the other. If you want it to remain historical and maybe keep some value, don't mess with it other than clean it up. If you want to go and shoot it, do whatever - it looks like it's solid mechanically.

Oh, got one of the two uppers for my AR:
CMMG 14.5 Middy barrel with a permanently attached Phantom mated to an M16 slab sid upper. Still waiting on my 10.5" Noveske barrel for the SBR upper
 
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Negatory. I've already seen pictures of the Glock G19 with ambi release and safety. Glock reps have also already confirmed the new safety frames. Check Glocktalk.com for the whole poop on that.

The 21SF came out before (even though its just now being released) the safety frames.

I have no problems carrying the 1911 series even though they are safetied, but then again I practice having the safety off before the gun is completely out of it's holster.
 

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I'm not a die hard like "OUTOSTEP"
but I can respect him.
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i gues have me a .22 semi rifle that holds 13 rounds.... i think.

thats for mainly picking off birds, ground-hogs, raccoons , rabits. etc around the back yard.


an my baby,
is my 40 cal semi springfield with the clip that holds 12 shots...
see what happens if soomeone comes in my house...


Will
 

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was looking at this what do all you think

Heckler & Koch Mk 23
 

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Good gun. Big and expensive, but a good gun. What appeal does that hold to you over a regular USP or a USP tactical?
 

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hey, i'm thinking of the things i'm going to need to support my AR, today i'm getting a cleaning kit and a cable lock, but i'll also need a case. anyone have any opinions/suggestions for cases that would fit? i just want a soft sided one, preferably with mag pockets and a pocket for the cleaning kit, and price around or less than $100. Or could someone give me the dementions i should look for? with a mid lenth barrel the overall lenth is like 35in right? but how wide should the case be?


and its getting to the time to get my upper, i've picked out everyting(16in barrel, mid lenth, carry handle, NATO chamber) but i just dont know if a chrome lined barrel is worth it. the gun will be shot like once a month maybe so i thought just a steel barrel would be fine, but then i thought over long storage times maybe the chrome would be better for resisting rust? thoughts?
 

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my 14.5" barrel puts my rifle at about 34 1/4" with the stock extended. With a 16" barrell, you'll be looking for the 36" range with the stock open, and 32-33" closed.

you looking for a case similar to this?

http://www.amazon.com/UNCLE-MIKES-ASSAULT-RIFLE-Color/dp/B000KOOV1A/sr=1-4/qid=1169765791/ref=sr_1_4/002-7760699-8908847?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods

My friend puts his ar15 carbines in the shoulder bags for folding lawn chairs. They don't provide much protection, but they're very discreet. I laughed my ass off the first time I saw it.
 

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Squid there is no appel one way or the i was just looking around at 3 in the moring and thought i would share my find
 

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OK, cool. whatever tickles you the right way.
 

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i finally have something to show off. i went home this weekend for my dads b-day, and also managed to get this put together. was not hard at all, except for when i wasnt paying attention and tryed to put the rear takedown pin in the front takedown pin hole. doh! but it came out easy. next paycheck i'll be ordering my upper, my friend got a good price from a guy on AR-15.com so i think i'll look into that.

 

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would like a RRA upper. the lower is a double star, and all the guts and stock are RRA. i feel that the less i mix and match manufacturers the less chance of haveing any problems with fitment and such.

so yeah gotta see what my options are but i would like a RRA 16inch midlenth with a carry handle.
 

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In the EE at AR15.com one of the vendors has awesome prices on complete RRA uppers. ~400 bucks. Helluva deal.
 

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yeah thats what my friend did and thats what i'm looking into. i think theres like 4 vendors with about the same deal: big dawg tactical, leagal transfers, eagle arms(?), and one other that i can't think of.
 

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Nice thread.
 

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Home gun range...

Range fees and ammo are killing me, so I've been thinking about building a bullet trap for my basement (7+ yard range). I'm concerned about noise, odor and lead with a .22 pistol, so I've been thinking about buying a good air pistol.

Does anybody have any experience with a GOOD air pistol? I will buy a 1911 at some point in .45 acp, so I've been thinking about a Colt 1911-A1 for ~$235 with compensator. It's about as much as I want to spend, but I want something realistic in terms of feel and accuracy. Is this a good choice, or am I just better off spending the extra money to shoot a real gun at the range?
 
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Home gun range...

Range fees and ammo are killing me, so I've been thinking about building a bullet trap for my basement (7+ yard range). I'm concerned about noise, odor and lead with a .22 pistol, so I've been thinking about buying a good air pistol.

Does anybody have any experience with a GOOD air pistol? I will buy a 1911 at some point in .45 acp, so I've been thinking about a Colt 1911-A1 for ~$235 with compensator. It's about as much as I want to spend, but I want something realistic in terms of feel and accuracy. Is this a good choice, or am I just better off spending the extra money to shoot a real gun at the range?
Super Colibris or regular Colibris for 22 ammo. You can shoot them outside if you want, they are so quite. Well, actualy thats out of a long gun. Out of a pistol they are louder. I shoot them out of my AR15 (w/m261 kit) all the time and noone knows. Very quite.

CCI CB Caps are also supposed to be pretty quite as well. I haven't tried them though. Basicly anything subsonic in 22 is gonna be faily quite. The colibris are almost silent.
 

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I finally got my pistol back from Wilson Combat today. I have been wanting to be able to post to the official gun thread for so long, well now i can!

Here it is, my Wilson Combat Springfield 1911 A-1










I havent got a chance to shoot it, but the guy who test fired it at Wilson said it should punch the same hole at 50 yards. :naughty:

Here is the list of services I had performed: (parts & labor)

Armor-Tuff coating (two tone) $215
Install tritium night glow sights $175
Checker Frontstrap $175
Install ambedixtrious thumb saftey $120
3lb trigger job with ultralight hammer & sear $190
Install wilson combat barrell & fit bushing $270
Reliability package $100
Lower and flare back ejection port $65
Install Wilson extractor $55
Install tactical mag release $25
Install Wilson mag well & contour to frame $125
Install custom tune spring kit $50
Tighten slide to frame $100
Install full length guide rod & reverse plug $45
Install Flat mainspring housing $45
Wilson combat grips FREE!

Total $1775

Sorry, the pics dont do it justice!
Ryan
 

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damn, thats a sweet 1911. thats alot of cash into it.

Shytheed Dumas, how much are they charging at your range? i live right near the NRA headquarters and they only charge $15/hr for non members. but there are other places near me that want like 60$ every time we go.
 

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90T04 said:
I finally got my pistol back from Wilson Combat today. I have been wanting to be able to post to the official gun thread for so long, well now i can!

Here it is, my Wilson Combat Springfield 1911 A-1

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Sorry, the pics dont do it justice!
Beautiful piece of hardware. Looks like nice customization work.

Congrats!
 

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Thanks for the comments guys!

Well, I went to the range today. Needless to say, a good gun cant cure a poor shot! Heres the damage:

 

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A great gun might not cure a bad shot, but practice sure will and with a beautiful pistol like that I would be there just about every day. :)

Range fees are $9 for half an hour, and by God you had better not go 31 minutes. I'm trying to improve my shooting and that takes practice and at $20 to $30 per visit it just adds up. So I thought going to the range every couple of weeks and firing an assload of pellets in the meantime would keep the cost in line and still give me more than enough shooting time to start paying off.
 

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indoor range here is 8/hr per person. so 2 people sharing a lane (me teaching a friend) is $16 and you have to buy their ammo. WAAAY overpriced ammo. The closest VA game and fisheries pistol range is an hour and a half away. the extra gas money is def worth me being able to shoot my own ammo.

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1911s and AR15s are such money pits. The gun hobby gets more expensive than cars at a much more alarming rate. I've got more money in just mags and ammo than my entire MK3 and all of it's upgrades.
 

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Jeez. Those range rates are exorbitant. There's a 'free' one a little ways outside of town, but that one tends to attract people who really shouldn't be handling firearms. The other one is about the same distance away and is much better-controlled... at $10 for the first person, $9 for each subsequent shooter... per day. The guy who runs the range is also a class 3 dealer as well, but I'm not even going to consider an FA... way too expensive for my blood.
 

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sytheed, check this out if you wanna put a safe one in your basement.

the bullet enters through the ramp directing it into a drum that itll spin around til it loses velocity. keeps the bullet intact so you dont get the lead dust spray. all you'd have to do is install a vent to get rid of the powder smoke.
pretty good design, looks like top-notch construction
http://www.snailtraps.com/traps.php

check here for the specific gun types
http://www.snailtraps.com/quickRef.php
 

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OoS, whatcha think of the indoor bullet traps?
 

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could you build one out of some thick steel plate or is this one of those things best left to the pros? they arnt really complex.
 

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im not quite sure, but if i had to chance it id test the thing outdoors.
 

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whooo here it is. i was going home for an archery tournament on saterday and guess what happens to arrive just when i get there. you can see there is alittle bit of a color differance between the double star lower and the rock river upper. its more of a texture differance, the RRA upper has a finish that doesnt reflect light as much. but that doesnt really bother me. just waiting on a detachable carry handle and then i'll be breaking her in at no other range than the one in the basement of the NRA headquarters on the 25th of this month. awsome.



 

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Nice AR. thought about doing a flip-up sight vs the carry handle?

Ug - new Glock on the way for me. 21 this time.
 

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flip up sights seem to be the new hot thing, and theyer all kinda expencive. i kinda like the carry handle look anyway, would have gotten an A2 style upper if i could have gotten the same deal that i did on this one, but i couldnt.
 

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That's kinda what I was getting at. Flattops are great for putting optics (scopes, etc) on and I was wondering if you were going that route. And getting a flip up would be a good way to start down that path....but go with what you like! Out of the standard sites, i actually prefer the M16/M16A1 sites over the A2's Something about how the aerature lines up with my cheek mold. My M16 upper felt much more natural than my friend's A2.
 

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Owned a couple of fire arms is the past, M1A1, SIG 228,299 and an Egyptian mad AK-47, but by far my favorite pistol (hand cannon) is my .44 Desert Eagle, it's not practical to carry at all, just a whole lot of fun to target shoot and make a lot of noise. Never shot the .50, I'd like to try it but I'll stick with the .44
 

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Smeg! said:
Owned a couple of fire arms is the past, M1A1, SIG 228,299 and an Egyptian mad AK-47, but by far my favorite pistol (hand cannon) is my .44 Desert Eagle, it's not practical to carry at all, just a whole lot of fun to target shoot and make a lot of noise. Never shot the .50, I'd like to try it but I'll stick with the .44
I had one of those years ago chambered in .50 AE... Amazingly light recoil for the preposterous size of the round. I think the fact that the pistol weighed about 7 lbs when fully loaded helped. Stupidly impractical, but as you said, hell of a lot of fun.

The reason I got rid of mine was that someone offered me what I paid for it after it was a year old and the damned thing stovepiped more often than I'm willing to tolerate in any weapon, let alone a $1200+ pistol. My .45's never stovepipe and are all the fun I need.
 

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SC, thats shocking. i figured they'd try to tear your wrist off with the recoil.

oh, do you mind defining stovepiping?
 
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