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i recently got a CVA Buckhorn .50 cal muzzleloader..

basically the cheapest muzzleloader I could find, since I'm going to start hunting deer and turkey this season..

Squid does your dad ever shoot any of those civil war error black powder guns?
 

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no. those are purely for collecting, but he does restore them all as he gets them so they are 100% operational.

I still need to shoot my .50cal muzzleloader my Granddad willed to me - black powder day sound good?
 

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hmmmm....I've shot:

22mag that hits 4 of 5 thumbtacks at 100yds

357 "peacekeeper" revolver that was horribly innacurate

tec9 (a lot like the one pictured but without the vents over the barrel) with a laser sight that was completely useless. Anybody who's shot one would understand. Although you can litter a target with 32 rounds very very quicly.

those are just the amusing guns.

A friend of mine just picked up a beretta 92FS 9mm when he started the police academy. I shot it and it was nice. I think it's brushed stainless, has a nice feel. He shot marksmen in the airforce and the academy...but I outshot him. does that make me a marksman??? haha
 

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Here it is, my $100 Russian Makarov IJ70-18AH 9x18mm w/ Adjustable sights and 10 rnd. High Capacity magazine. Not a bad find for $100 me thinks.





This is my first weapon.
 

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I havent read this thread at all really but I thought Id ask. Im looking to get a Glock 9mm or something like that in a few months after my cars back on the road. Im curious as to what people think I should get, I want it for home protection and maybe weekend practicing sometimes. I know they cost upwards of $500. Where should I go, whats the best, what to look for?
 

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Iv had this question for a while and have asked many people what they think so im going to ask you guys

as most of you know the 9mm is a pretty usless calibar for taking some one down( as a military example) what do you think the US and or canada use and a standerd sidearm

.40sm
.45acp
10mm auto

or anything else you might prefure
 

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9mm is not a problem if you use the right ammo, and put two rounds center of mass, then finish off with one to the head. (allways train double tap, then final tap... LOL)

I've owned a Tarus PT92 in 9mm for years, and it's a great gun. Have a stock 15 round mag, a larger 17round mag and just bought a 30round mag for fun plinking. (I've put about 1500 rounds through this gun over the years, possibly more, and never, ever had one jam, or fail to fire.)

I've shot 9mm glocks, the GAP45 glock and the 40 cal version too.

My brother just bought the FN5.7 and it's a kick ass weapon. 20 rounds in the mag, awesome accuracy and that bullet is pretty wicked to body armor. (Heck, you can't buy the teflon coated bullets anymore, but they will go right through most kevlar based personal armor.)

Best part of this gun is the recoil... what recoil? (One of the things I like about my 9mm is you can learn to shoot it quickly and accurately due to the controllable recoil v/s say a 45 or other large bore pistols.)

I'm not saying you can't become accurate with larger guns, it's just not as easy to put 3 rounds into a target when the gun is bucking in your hands with every pull of the trigger.

Few years ago, I was shooting with a friend of mine at the dump.. (I love parts of Idaho, the dump is open year round, and there is NOBODY there after hours, so you can shoot up whatever is there that day. TV's, washers and dryers, old fridges and other cool stuff to shoot. Anyway, we were shooting this old fridge, and had just used a marker to outline some targets on the thing. I could put double taps into these 3" rings very quickly, but he was not because his 1911 was jumping all over the place.. we swapped guns, and suddenly I could not hit shit on the second round, but he became very accurate..

So, the 45 will only do it's job if you can keep it on target... LOL (Or hope to stop the bad guy with one round... good luck on that.)
 

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I didnt say i didnt like it but for takeing someone down its not very good iv seen guys take 3 shots like they were nothing mind you this guys were huge.:aigo:

oh shit just looked up the FN5.7 wow
 

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Nothing wrong with 9mm - especially a Glock. No caliber will work if you can't hit the target. ;)

Can't go wrong with a Glock 17 or Glock 19 for range work and home defense. Either will run around $550. The 19 is just a little smaller than the 17.

If you want to look into a bigger caliber, look into the Glock 29 (10mm), Glock 30 (45 ACP), Glock 22 or 23 (40 cal) or Glock 37/38 (45 GAP). All are good guns and are either full sized or just one step down. Try as many as you can and pick which one you like the best!
 

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I still prefer my .45

Low velocity with a lot of mass. They are sub sonic so there's rarely an overpenetration problem. Makes for a great self defense weapon. I'm using Gold Dot hollow points.

They have great expansion:



Makes for a massive wound cavity. A double tap center mass with these and there's nothing that's going to keep coming towards you.
 

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.45 > all. Stupid mistake to phase out teh .45 with the M1911.

I believe the US army should use .40SW. First off its a supereasy round to control. Will let the womens and the scrawny guys shoot well. 2nd its a bit more of a punch than a 9mm round.

3rd. Its badass.
 

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10mm > *.*

  • More energy at 200yards than a 45 has at the barrel.
  • Largest average recovered diameter of any handgun in real life shootings (larger than even .44magnum and .45acp). As in it leaves the biggest deepest holes.
  • Increases effective engagement ranges to over 75m.
  • True magnum ballistics (more powerful than 357mag) in an autoloader handgun.
  • Larger magazine capacity than .45acp
  • Largest grain range and loading velocity of any auto cartridge. 95gr to 240gr, medium game hunting loads to two legged predator loads.
  • The FBI determined that it was the “perfect” bullet, passing all of their tests at almost 100% every time. It stomped the shit out of the 9mm and 45acp.
  • The bullet was too powerful for FBI females and limp wristed little males.

Over penetration has never been an issue for any caliber, nor has it ever been a legitimate safety concern. First; an over penetrating CNS shot is still a CNS shot, the perp is dead. Over penetration simply leaves two holes to bleed out of. If over penetration occurs with a good expanding bullet, the wound channel is just that much larger. Also if a bullet over penetrates in ballistics gelatin, it simply means it can overcome intermediate barriers and still perform. Through the car door and still fuck up the baddie. There has only ever been ONE case where a police shoot out where over penetration harmed a bystander (went through the bad guy and hit an innocent), but it was not with 10mm. The innocent hit was not killed or even seriously wounded.

Under penetration however kills hundreds of police officers and civilians every year. This includes situations where the bullet lacked the energy to reliably and consistently score a CNS shot. Either being fragmented by denser muscle tissue, or deflected off of bones, or simply lack of energy required for penetration.

Under penetration will kill you, over penetration will not. Wanting a bullet to “stay in the target” and “dump energy” means nothing. You want the largest and deepest wound channel you can get. Simply, you want to take the biggest chunks out of a badguy as possible. You need velocity, mass, and a good quality bullet for that. 10mm has the best in all of those fields.


The only drawback of 10mm is it requires a larger frame size than 9mm. Recoil is comparable to 45, the same with price. It will never be as cheap to shoot as 9mm is, but then again neither will 45.


Is 10mm a good round for the military or police in general? No, because with PC bullshit you have to accommodate for the lowest common denominator. Women and small guys can’t handle the 10mm. They can’t handle the 45 either for that matter.
 

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i wouldnt say size just ability to shoot it my dads best friends wife is about 5' and can shoot a 45 better then most guys I know including me and my dad it doesnt matter about size just the ability of the shooter
 

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I personally want to get an AK47 or a US M3 "grease gun" but the damn gov't here in Japan wont let us have any sort of firearms.
 

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My dad carries a Colt 10mm Delta Elite. Nice pistol.



And amazingly the old man is still one hell of a shot at 68 years old.
 

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Back to the range in the AM with the G36 and the 1187 Deer (intruder) gun.
 

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well. the 36 is now confirmed as my carry gun. I've almost got my dad converted to a tupperware man too.

Glocks definitely had a corner on the market at the range today. 3 G30s, G23, G17 (my friend's), G36 (mine), and a G27.

No one quite knew what to make of my 1187. "Why does this guy have a shotgun on the rifle side?" BOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!! "What the hell was that........"
I just giggled and kept firing.
 

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I was always a big fan of 10mm but I read that .40 cal was a bit more practical. I like the idea that 10mm is used for Big game hunting though...that's damn impressive. :D
 

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My 1991A1 will be my carry gun when Jim Doyle gets replaced by Mark Green for governor in Wisconsin next month. Friggin Doyle vetoed concealed carry twice since he's been in office.Retard!:3d_frown:

My black powder pistol is an 1850 Colt Army replica but it is real fun to shoot anyway.:biglaugh:

Long guns from top to bottom:
8mm Turkish Mauser W/Redfield scope
Remington 1100 12 ga. semi-auto
Stevens 30-30 clip fed (killed 4 deer with it so far)
Ruger 10-22 for my son to learn shooting with.

I really want to add an FAL 308 to the arsenal as well as a Kel-Tek PLR-16 .223 pistol. Does anyone have or know someone who has a PLR-16? I have never owned any Kel-Tek products but owners on gun forums say they are good quality and lifetime warranty.
 

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HellsLegion said:
.45 > all. Stupid mistake to phase out teh .45 with the M1911.

I believe the US army should use .40SW. First off its a supereasy round to control. Will let the womens and the scrawny guys shoot well. 2nd its a bit more of a punch than a 9mm round.

3rd. Its badass.
here is where the mk23 and usp come into play :evil2:
 

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I've been thinking about picking up a pistol... and actually was looking at the Taurus 92 9mm for a first gun, but I was wondering... if I were to hit up a gun range, do they generally have... well, like rentals or something? So I could try out various guns, to see what I'm comfortable with?

I'm a total n00b with firearms - .22 Remington rifle is the only thing I've ever shot.

Show me where to start the path!
 

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So, the 45 will only do it's job if you can keep it on target... LOL (Or hope to stop the bad guy with one round... good luck on that.)
compensator? any takers? lol... just making a point that it can be controlled :) even without a compensator
 

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Adjuster said:
So, the 45 will only do it's job if you can keep it on target...
Any gun will only do the job if you can keep it on target. :p

Adjuster said:
LOL (Or hope to stop the bad guy with one round... good luck on that.)
And I love that line. I'd suspect one round would stop 99.999% of you guys (or me for that matter) with little problem.

And last, if you can't put a double tap center mass into a man sized target at normal handgun ranges (statistics show most shootings take place at distances of UNDER seven yards), you've got no business handling a gun in the first place.

Just my $.02, ymmv.
 

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Sorry for the off topic-ness but:

I've seen the "I miss IJ" thing twice, I can't find anything on the search...what happened to him?
 

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hey guys....the MK23 SOCOM is .45...not .40. The cal question is pretty moot. You shoot, you hit, bad guy goes down. done deal. anything above 9mm (sometimes .380) will get teh job done, so long as you do your part.
 

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Squid699 said:
hey guys....the MK23 SOCOM is .45...not .40. The cal question is pretty moot. You shoot, you hit, bad guy goes down. done deal. anything above 9mm (sometimes .380) will get teh job done, so long as you do your part.
that was my point :D... mk23 for .45 acp and usp for .40 cal... govt still uses both... not commonly, but they use them
 

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Speaking of the HK MK23... anyone ever get a chance to shoot one of those things?

I was impressed. Double-stack .45ACP, a little large on the hands but honestly I can deal with that just fine. A bit too large for CC work unfortunately unless you like shoulder rigs and coats all year round. But, wow. Accuracy was phenominal; I was hitting consistently out to about 50 yards rapid fire offhand. Felt recoil seemed a shade less than a full-sized 9x19mm, but most of that was due to its size. Nice pistol, but in some places they retail at prices that'd get you a cheap MK3.

And, Outofstep, your post piqued my interest in the 10x25mm round as far as a possible consealed carry gun goes. Might not be the most feasable thing in the world, but to me recoil isn't an issue unless we're talking about a big-bore Magnum like the .475 Linebaugh or the .500 S&W. I can rapid-fire a .45ACP M1911 and my Taurus .357 Magnum revolver offhand with reasonable accuracy and not really complain... 'ell, I loved the stout feel of the 1911, honestly. Any somewhat feasable carry guns in this caliber you could point my eye towards?
 

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Glock's model 29 is a good place to start. It's on the same frame as my .45 model 30. It's pretty easily concealed.
 
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well i just picked up a Mosin Nagan, or some variant there of.. 7.62x 54

quite a wild looking rifle..i'll get some pics up soon..

squid..a blackpowder day would be a blast.. could probably bring the wife unit along too as she enjoys shooting as much as i do
 

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lanky189 said:
well i just picked up a Mosin Nagan, or some variant there of.. 7.62x 54

quite a wild looking rifle..i'll get some pics up soon..
I had a Mosin Nagant Model 91/30 Sniper until about a year ago. I sold it to a friend of mine.

Fun old beast.
 
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mine was sporterized...
i hate it..the synthetic stock doesn't fit right..i'm gonna hafta find a wood one
 

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Since we're on the sporterized subject ... here's a couple shots of my 8mm. Story is, my Uncle 'acquired' it & did the sporterizing himself ... it was my deer rifle as a kid & when I tried to return it to him a few years back - he gave it to me :icon_mrgr


I know these things were made by the millions at the time - but I still think it's pretty cool that this one has the markings that it does. I had hell tryin' to get them to show up in a picture - but that little bird w/ spread wings is holding a swaztika(sp?) inside a circle.


 
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cool, i've always liked the older rifles...i'm gonna try and find an old Garand one of these days.
 

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Garands are a ton of fun Lanky!

Look into the CMP. The Civilian Marksmanship program. My dad and I have gotten 3 Garands from them.

I enjoy my K98 a ton yaitsme I pick them up all the time from Big5 when they get them
 

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this is a little off topic(in the off topic thread of all things), but i am 18 years old and recently did an AR build using a double star lower I got for $100 and a kit from sherluk for a total of about 545, what i found to be a lot cheaper than buying it built
 

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That's not off topic at all. That's what this thread is for. All of my ARs I built that way. Making your own gun is one of the funnest things to do.

Here's the best hint for building your kit (if it's not built yet). Cut about half a centimeter off of the front detent spring. It will still have plenty enough strength to keep the detent pin pushing and locking the front pivot pin. However, it saves hours and hours of frustration from having to chasing that fucking detent pin and spring around the room after it pops out while you tried to get the front pivot into place.

I tried it without trimming it on my first RRA built. FUCK THAT! haha.
 
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