Spartan living, or, "How to budget for a Supra project"

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Originally wrote this a LONG time ago for AZSC, figured I'd post up on here too.

http://forums.azsupracentral.com/to..._19003__hl__spartan__fromsearch__1#entry19003

I think it's time we all share advice and our collective experiences with Supras. Considering how many of us have been around the scene for so long, I think it would have been nice to have the knowledge I have now back when I first got into cars. So, without further waiting, my own example. Hopefully someone can benefit from the info!

Supras cost a lot of money. Ask anyone who's had a few over the years. Most of us don't really make a LOT of money, but we get by. That may be good and well and all, but how do you maximize your money and still live a balanced lifestyle? I'm kinda just winging this, so bear with me...

Table of contents (for this post anyway, didn't realize it would end up a novel haha)
-Number ONE: Daily Driver
-Number TWO: Diet
-Number THREE: Budget
-Number FOUR: Save Money
-Number FIVE: Set Allowance


***Number ONE: Get a daily driver. Do the smart thing, and buy yourself a reliable car, truck, or whatever, that can get you by in day to day life. While driving a Supra every day is fun, it is NOT an ideal situation to be in when you MUST rely on it for your daily needs. On that note, get something simple. The more simple, the more reliable, in most cases. It doesn't matter if it's slow, good looking, or even all that nice. Just so long as it's reliable. Best example I can honestly come up with is my 79 Celica. Slow, boring, some would even go so far as to say it's a 'granny-car'. Really, it is. I named it Ojii-san (grandpa, in Japanese) because it suited it. Gets decent enough mileage, and starts no matter WHAT the weather is like. Cost me all of $400, and costs about $100 or less per YEAR to insure. Basically, you want a proven vehicle for this task, as it is your NUMBER ONE priority.
Key points: RELIABLE, SIMPLE, CHEAP.

Meet those three requirements, and you have yourself the most solid foundation to Supra ownership there is.


***Number TWO: Diet. It's the little expenses that add up the most. Do you smoke? Try to quit. Do you eat out a lot? Try to pack lunches, cook at home more. Take a look at EVERY expense in your life, and try to keep track of just WHERE your money goes every month. A good way to do this is to keep your receipts from every time you spend money anywhere. For example, for you smokers, a pack per day costs you... what? I don't smoke, so I don't know, but I imagine it's not cheap. You could be spending $100, $200, possibly even more, depending on your habit/addiction. Eating out? That's about $5 a pop, unless you're eating off the dollar menu at Taco Bell... My brother is a good example of that one. He probably spends $100 a WEEK on just snacks and things at the convenience stores, even MORE if you count him eating lunch and dinner out on many days. A co-worker of mine is another good example. He LOVES his Monster energy drinks. Not for the caffeine, but for the taste, he says. Brings in a 16oz, and a 32oz (the BFC, for you Monster drinkers out there). Spends about $6-7 PER DAY on these things. Figure, even if he only drinks them at work, that's still 20 days in your average month. 20x6 = $180. I mean, it's cheaper than cocaine, but still...

So, learn to diet. Myself, I drink water. Tap water, at least up here in Wyoming, is great. Not only does it quench your thirst, but it's also good for you, and FREE. Drink all ya want big spender haha... As for eating, I pretty much eat whatever happens to be leftovers. When I was living on my own, I would eat mostly cereal, ramen, mac n cheese, pizza rolls, Little Caesers, etc... Not exactly a HEALTHY diet, but it was cheap.


***Number THREE: Learn to set a budget for yourself, and stick to it. I can't stress the importance of this one enough. Some of the most sound advice I've ever heard was from Andrew, about 4 or 5 years ago:

"Ten dollars an hour can be stretched to the moon and back, IF you know how to spend it."

How do you afford a Supra on that kind of money? It's really not that hard, if you're willing to cut back in other areas of your life. For example, learn how to save money in little ways.

Entertainment is a really good example. I could go on forever on how to save money by cutting out all but the necessities. Ask your grandparents sometime perhaps... Particularly if they lived through the 20s or 30s. How do you keep yourself entertained on a budget? The internet. Not is it only great (for porn! Haha, it's a joke, if you don't get it, look up 'the internet is for porn' on youtube..), but it's also cheap. Online gaming is a good way to pass the time until the next paycheck. Call of Duty on Xbox Live or Playstation Network is a GREAT way to kill time, if you're a fan of shooters. Not sure how much a copy costs these days, but you could literally play it for months, ask Clint. As much as I despise MMO's, World of Warcraft is another decent budget minded game to keep you occupied. Tired of paying for a cable bill? Try hulu.com. Watch all the tv you can for FREE. It's legal too! Music lover like I am? Try internet radio, such as pandora.com. There are always other methods of using the internet for entertainment, but I'll leave that for you to figure out.

So, $40 internet per month gets you just HOW much entertainment? Really, as much as your connection can bring into your house. Best investment/bill ever, in my opinion.

I guess a lot of you are probably more sociable than I am, but I live in Wyoming, where there really isn't much to do at all, so the lack of interesting ways to SPEND money actually benefits me. That, and being a geek with a collection of games and anime that I haven't gotten around to yet really helps. A bit of an idea of how to set a budget is a big help too. For example, this is how I did it:

-Total income = $xx/hour X 32 hours/week (for full time, figuring in an 8 hour allowance for unexpected expenses or sick days, etc)
-Total bills = $xxx. For me, that number is around $500-600/month, including phone, car payment, insurance, gas, food, rent, etc...
-Allowance = $xxx. Whatever you set aside for personal enjoyment. Remember, this is almost ALWAYS an unnecessary expense, but it makes life more enjoyable, so decide how much you can spare, because the rest goes to your Supra budget.
-Supra budget = Whatever is left afterward.

Take your Total income, subtract your total bills, and your allowance, and whatever you have left, goes to your Supra. smile.gif


***Number FOUR: Save up your leftover money. I know it's easy to blow it when you have money "burning a hole in your pocket", but there are always ways to get around that. Part of that goes back to DISCIPLINE. It's time to stop being a little kid and buying every little thing that catches your eye. I mean, that's all fine and well enough, but if you really want to build a Supra of your own, it's gonna take a bit of patience and discipline. How long it takes you is up to you.

For example, I just bought my 1jz setup. After shipping, it cost me about $2200. Took me about 6 weeks to save up that money. Where did my money go in those 6 weeks? In this order:
-Bills. Gotta take care of your responsibilities first.
-Daily driver costs. Gas, oil, etc. Gotta make sure that daily is kept up.
-1jz fund. ALL leftover money went into this part. It added up, and pretty quickly, too!

I would challenge ANY of you to save up ALL your money in that manner, for a 6 week period. Pay your bills first, make sure you can get to work (the DD expenses part) second, and your Supra (or any project car, really) third. 6 weeks really isn't that long, and I think any of you are capable of doing it. Depending on your level of patience, or goals, you might be able to (or might HAVE to) go for longer periods of time to get what you want from your project.

I mean, Number FOUR here applies to anything in life really. Buying a new car, buying a house, etc... Any major expense in life can be acquired if you can be self-disciplined. Think about it. Even at minimum wage, assuming you're working 40 hours a week, you're still pulling in a sizable amount. Might not seem like much, but assuming minimum wage is $7/hour, at 40 hours per week, 51 weeks a year (figure a week off for vacation or whatever), you're pulling in over $14k. Get a decent job, and you'll likely double that, or more!


***Number FIVE: Set an allowance for yourself. Seriously, life gets REALLY boring if you stay at home or work ALL the time, trust me. So, after you've figured out your budget, figure out a reasonable figure to allow yourself for spending. Remember again though, that the more allowance you give yourself, the less money goes to the Supra (see Number THREE above). The more you spend, the longer it's gonna take to get your Supra to where you want it to be.

Remember, you can build a Supra ANY way you want. However, they ALL require three things:

-Time
-Money
-Patience


I realize that this might be harder for some of you than others, but it's worked for me so far, and I really hope the advice can help some of you too, whether you've been in the game a long time running, or if you're completely new to the wonderful world of Supra ownership. Feel free to add anything that's helped you in your adventures with your Supras.
 
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You've inspired me (that and looking at the $5.71 in my bank account) to finally set a budget. At least the $6 bucks is black this time. :D

Good right up.
 

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Don't forget to always budget for a minimum of 20% in extra unexpected things like a crank pulley separating into 2 pieces while tuning on the dyno (costing an extra $400 when the budget was for only $1100). Shit breaks and you find things wrong while working on other projects.
 

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Yeah, I'm seriously doing something similar at the moment. Mostly living off turkey wheat sandwiches and water, while playing video games to keep me entertained in my free time. Even selling my DD supra for a Geo Metro.
 

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Don't forget to always budget for a minimum of 20% in extra unexpected things like a crank pulley separating into 2 pieces while tuning on the dyno (costing an extra $400 when the budget was for only $1100). Shit breaks and you find things wrong while working on other projects.
This is true, I figure I'm about 5-6k away from all I want to do with this Supra, but I'm guessing I'll end up spending closer to 7-8k before it's all said and done...

Yeah, I'm seriously doing something similar at the moment. Mostly living off turkey wheat sandwiches and water, while playing video games to keep me entertained in my free time. Even selling my DD supra for a Geo Metro.
Working a LOT also helps keep you occupied, as is my case. Between work and sleep, I have about 20 hours a week that I have to myself. Much of that time is spent here on SM. :)
 

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Figure it's a good time to bump this thread, I see a lot of new threads on here lately with some seriously disastrous direction in people's thinking concerning their Supras...

Anybody have anything good to add to this, feel free to do so!
 

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There's a lot of ways to save money. For me it was putting things into perspective. Use a website like mint.com. I realized I had spent $55 one month buying Dr. Pepper and gummi frogs at cumberland farms. I thought wow I pay that much for internet and its way way better value for what im getting. Sometimes you just need a little persuasion.

Set targets for yourself. Create a budget. See how much you can save every week. After that set a goal and stick to it. Set it realistically. If you can save 20k a year by only paying your bills, well guess what after a month you are going to see how hard it is. Cut back and be more conservative with your goal and you will be amazed at what you can do
 

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Well said. I'm currently working towards getting a house. At the amount I should be pre-approved for, it should leave me with about $700 free money a month. Most of that money goes toward the car these days, but with a house on the table, who knows. After my personal loan is taken care of (about 2 more years I figure), I'll end up with an extra $500 on top of that to add on the pile. But who knows what direction life takes ya sometimes, just gotta get into a good habit of managing your money if you ever want to finish your car. :)
 

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Try multiplying everything by 4!!!

I make sure I have money to pay my xB, infact I'm actually ahead on payments...

I also make sure I can pay the minimum on my credit card, plus the interest, plus atleast $100 more...

I cannot cook for the life of me, don't even ask..luckily my fiance can work a stove like no other, that helps me, and my step-daughter can whip up some mean breakfast when the need arises...

As for having a reliable DD, a Supra can fit the bill, but it must be bone stock, NA, and preferably, 5-speed (better gas mileage, plus they cost less to fix/replace if the need arises)...

my 92 is absolutely bone stock, the only mods are a sun shade, pre 89 euro signals with LEDs, yellow fogs, and some green LEDs on the inside, and some decent speakers with an okay head unit. I am saving up for a 2JZ-GE, which will also remain bone stock, and adapt my W58 to fit it. As tempted as I am, I will not turbo it, I will not get headers, I won't even get an intake, I am keeping everything stock, because it needs to be a reliable daily driver. If I need my speed fix, I have my 89 (which has been down for a year), which I have spent WAY too much on, and continue to do so.

But OP's tips are definitely good advice, and diciplining yourself to set aside a set amount of money each paycheck will definitely help..
 

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Razoe, for the reasons you listed above, my Mk2 is pretty much 100% stock. It's also 100% slow, but that doesn't bother me. I know that if I need it to, it will get me around if for some reason the Mk3 decides to not cooperate.
 

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Great now i have a better reason to stop smoking!!! Screw the health reasons... 4.89 + tax x 3 x 30= 450 a month i could use for my toy!! god just looking at that number for a month makes me ILL. May quit tomorrow will post a warning if so to avoid attacks on unknowing supra owners
 

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Dude, I love this!!! Haha, it was like I was reading from my own mind. :) I have always felt very justified by spending money on my toys, ie supra and motorcycle, because i choose not to smoke, drink or do drugs. I go to the movies, but that is about all for entertainment. I am very very frugal, but i spend a lot on my toys :) Thanks, i really enjoyed reading.
 

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Great now i have a better reason to stop smoking!!! Screw the health reasons... 4.89 + tax x 3 x 30= 450 a month i could use for my toy!! god just looking at that number for a month makes me ILL. May quit tomorrow will post a warning if so to avoid attacks on unknowing supra owners
Holy crap man, that's a lot of tobackey! I never realized how much it cost to smoke, quite glad I never took up the habit. I mean, you could smoke a set of decent tires a month for that much, and I would think that it's WAY more satisfying!

Dude, I love this!!! Haha, it was like I was reading from my own mind. :) I have always felt very justified by spending money on my toys, ie supra and motorcycle, because i choose not to smoke, drink or do drugs. I go to the movies, but that is about all for entertainment. I am very very frugal, but i spend a lot on my toys :) Thanks, i really enjoyed reading.
Same here man. Clean and frugal living will go a LONG way toward supporting your Supra(s). Glad you enjoyed it, I'm working toward buying a house right now, so a good chunk of my money that's been going to rent and storage will be going toward a mortgage payment, and I'll finally have my own garage too!
 

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Same here man. Clean and frugal living will go a LONG way toward supporting your Supra(s). Glad you enjoyed it, I'm working toward buying a house right now, so a good chunk of my money that's been going to rent and storage will be going toward a mortgage payment, and I'll finally have my own garage too!
That is excellent dude, congrats. I hope to be doing the same thing next year :) I got a real job in december, so saving is much simpler with a real nice paycheck every 2 weeks :)
 

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Holy crap man, that's a lot of tobackey! I never realized how much it cost to smoke, quite glad I never took up the habit. I mean, you could smoke a set of decent tires a month for that much, and I would think that it's WAY more satisfying!



Same here man. Clean and frugal living will go a LONG way toward supporting your Supra(s). Glad you enjoyed it, I'm working toward buying a house right now, so a good chunk of my money that's been going to rent and storage will be going toward a mortgage payment, and I'll finally have my own garage too!
how much were you paying in rent and storage?
 

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how much were you paying in rent and storage?
Roughly $100 for rent, as I currently live with my parents, and $125 for storage for a 12x20 unit. Mortgage payment is looking like it's gonna be about $850. A bit more, but everything is going to be much more accessible, and I'll have a lot more space. Win win if you ask me.
 

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It's interesting to see different situations ir different countries(especially talking about money). Also, different aproaches to problems. But yeah, you're right. You have to loose some, to gain some :)
 

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Yeah, learning about other cultures always rather fascinated me. I feel I have a pretty good appreciation for what I've seen of crowded homes, as I had everything I owned stuffed into an ~8x9 room, and now I have a ~1500sq/ft house. After seeing my stuff spread about the house, it's a wonder how it ever fit in the first place.

That said, this whole house thing has been a completely different beast, as far as finances are concerned...

As far as how you say that "you have to lose some to gain some", the way I look at it is just that you have to set priorities. I could care less (generally speaking) about what I eat, what I drink (water's still fine by me, and very very cheap), or how warm or cold it is in my house... I do it all for my car. :)
 

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I'm talking about the difference in salary and prices. For example, my monthly salary is about 800 dollars and that's considered somewhere average salary here. There are people that receive only 300 dollars a month. I'm giving you numbers in dollars, because giving numbers in my curency wont say anything to you. Most prices here are higher than in the states. People from other countries often don't understand how we manage to live here. Of course, there are other countries with similar situations or even worse, but i'm not talking about that now. For example, one liter of gasoline costs about 2 bucks. So, a full tank of fuell will be somewhere 1/6 of my salary. If you want to rent a flat, get ready to throw a minimum of 200 bucks without taxes. As i heard, food, electricity and other stuff are also more expensive here compared to the states. If you compare supra parts prices. They are the same if not bigger than in the states. So, lets say ordering mhg, gasket set, bearings and other stuff will set you back around 700. That's all monthly income. don't forget that you have to live and eat also.
 

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Wow that's crazy man. Makes me very thankful for what I have and I thought I barely got by. Hope it all works out for you sounds like it takes awhile to build a car over there.
 

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Wow that's crazy man. Makes me very thankful for what I have and I thought I barely got by. Hope it all works out for you sounds like it takes awhile to build a car over there.
You would be surprised to see what cars were/are built here :). People learn to improvise and solve problems in their own ways. Believe me, there are a lot of properly built cars here. For example, one of my friends is building 500hp 7m powered mk3 for drift. There are other friends with many built s13 and evos. They even managed to built a jet powered dragster.
 

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I'm talking about the difference in salary and prices. For example, my monthly salary is about 800 dollars and that's considered somewhere average salary here. There are people that receive only 300 dollars a month. I'm giving you numbers in dollars, because giving numbers in my curency wont say anything to you. Most prices here are higher than in the states. People from other countries often don't understand how we manage to live here. Of course, there are other countries with similar situations or even worse, but i'm not talking about that now. For example, one liter of gasoline costs about 2 bucks. So, a full tank of fuell will be somewhere 1/6 of my salary. If you want to rent a flat, get ready to throw a minimum of 200 bucks without taxes. As i heard, food, electricity and other stuff are also more expensive here compared to the states. If you compare supra parts prices. They are the same if not bigger than in the states. So, lets say ordering mhg, gasket set, bearings and other stuff will set you back around 700. That's all monthly income. don't forget that you have to live and eat also.
Definitely a different world here. Every state is different even, for example, for the same price I was renting a house in Arizona, I would pay to rent a 2 bedroom apartment that's 1/3 the size here in Wyoming.

However, they say that necessity is the mother of invention, right? Bet you guys have built some rather clever things out of a need to save your money for more important matters. I love seeing people adapt like that. :)
 

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Definitely a different world here. Every state is different even, for example, for the same price I was renting a house in Arizona, I would pay to rent a 2 bedroom apartment that's 1/3 the size here in Wyoming.

However, they say that necessity is the mother of invention, right? Bet you guys have built some rather clever things out of a need to save your money for more important matters. I love seeing people adapt like that. :)
You need to adapt and try to find solutions that works for you personally. Some solutions may not be acceptable for others. By the way, on the same note, i found a full bottom bearing set, piston rings and a full gasket set for 550lt (about 200 dollars). Japan products. It shows that you just need to search and you'll eventually find what you are looking for.
As for the projects here. If i'll find them on the web, i'll show them ;)
 

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I'm going to give this a BUMP for the month. The original post was really well articulated, and excellent advice for ALL... (not that everyone HAS to follow it, as there are those who can simply do what they please, but often TIME can then be the higher price, etc... BTW, that's not me, I have COSTS AND TIME issues, but I still do what I can!)

The most rewarding part of "the process" for me, having been driving Supras since my first, a MKII I bought back in '89 is the satisfaction I get from doing so much of the work on the car myself. Being a shade-tree mechanic at best, I fumble around with the wrenches and work S-L-O-W-L-Y just to try to keep it together, balanced and moving in the "right direction".


Once again Brad, your original post is excellent advice! I've done it "wrong" for most of the time... and would do well to apply your advice more diligently. That having been said, you are not yet into another Pandora's box of your life experience (I take it) that involves a wife and bunch of kids thrown into the mix to REALLY make things interesting!


Last thought:


When it comes to Fiscal Responsibility with a SUPRA, NO MATTER WHAT YOU MAKE, THERE IS NEVER ENOUGH MONEY AND TIME!:biglaugh:




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Well said Crisp, and thanks for the bump. I think people would do well to read my original post before deciding to buy a Supra (or most any 'project' car) in the first place, see if they're willing (or able) to sacrifice the money (or the time if they can't toss the money around).

To answer your question, no, I do not have a wife (yet), but the girlfriend and I have been together nearly two years now. Things are going pretty smoothly, but I'd rather be in a position that we're BOTH out of our personal debts (about 2 years left for both of us, realistically) before making a decision of that caliber. If the love is still there, and the relationship is still going smoothly, I could easily see the marriage thing happening.

As for the kid thing, I'd really hate to bring a kid into the world that we live in now, considering they'd have to grow up among everyone ELSE'S kids. Seeing THEIR kids is enough for me to say "no thank you, I've got enough crazy on my plate". Fortunately for us, she's of the same opinion, and smart enough to know that not everybody NEEDS to have children or is even cut out for parenthood. I know I'm not. I'd make a pretty cool dad, but the provider aspect... that's where I draw the line. I barely live comfortably enough to own a Supra, and I'll be the first to admit that I'm a selfish person, I don't think I'd enjoy life too much if I didn't have the freedoms as I do now. Judge me how you like, but at least I know where I stand. :)
 

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After reading all this (good "wise" post btw), and I had to put my 2 cents in.
I understand the budget part.. and I have 6 kids and 3 grandkids... which means I have been on old mother earth for a little while. :)

The baddest part about the MKIII is it attracts young'uns with a lot of hope for the beast on the road for peanuts (they sell cheap.. but.. for a reason). I wish I had read 2 years worth of posts prior to buying mine.. it would have saved me about 12,000.00

Knowledge is Power.. and $$. Too bad the new Supra owners dont find this forum BEFORE they buy. Some do.. but most dont.
And... be patient with your Supra. Its a finicky old girl who will reward you if your nice to her. Take the time to get to know her from bumper to bumper BEFORE you spend the $$. Dont go buying everything you just read of to get you to 800 RWHP.. because in the end (as I found out) someone left off about 10,000.00 worth of little parts.. hehe. Most of the "Big Guns" on SM know the cars intimately and understand what it takes to build it. Sometimes (perhaps most of the time) they dont want to go back into everything they learned and give you the extremely detailed version of how the car got there. So... dont be fooled by the "5 Minute Warrior" (a.k.a the "2000.00 Speedy Supra"). You cant push big numbers without big $$ and/or a lot of personal time.

Being realistic is key to happiness. Nobody is going to sell you a car that is super reliable and super powerful for 2000 - 3000. I meet a lot of younger folk here that find that out the hardway. The dream is there.. its achievable.. but you better have the road mapped or your gonna end up in the ditch really quick.
 

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After reading all this (good "wise" post btw), and I had to put my 2 cents in.
I understand the budget part.. and I have 6 kids and 3 grandkids... which means I have been on old mother earth for a little while. :)

The baddest part about the MKIII is it attracts young'uns with a lot of hope for the beast on the road for peanuts (they sell cheap.. but.. for a reason). I wish I had read 2 years worth of posts prior to buying mine.. it would have saved me about 12,000.00

Knowledge is Power.. and $$. Too bad the new Supra owners dont find this forum BEFORE they buy. Some do.. but most dont.
And... be patient with your Supra. Its a finicky old girl who will reward you if your nice to her. Take the time to get to know her from bumper to bumper BEFORE you spend the $$. Dont go buying everything you just read of to get you to 800 RWHP.. because in the end (as I found out) someone left off about 10,000.00 worth of little parts.. hehe. Most of the "Big Guns" on SM know the cars intimately and understand what it takes to build it. Sometimes (perhaps most of the time) they dont want to go back into everything they learned and give you the extremely detailed version of how the car got there. So... dont be fooled by the "5 Minute Warrior" (a.k.a the "2000.00 Speedy Supra"). You cant push big numbers without big $$ and/or a lot of personal time.

Being realistic is key to happiness. Nobody is going to sell you a car that is super reliable and super powerful for 2000 - 3000. I meet a lot of younger folk here that find that out the hardway. The dream is there.. its achievable.. but you better have the road mapped or your gonna end up in the ditch really quick.
For the TL;DR people out there, an old saying-

"you can only have two of the following three in a car: fast, cheap, and correctly built."
 

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For the TL;DR people out there, an old saying-

"you can only have two of the following three in a car: fast, cheap, and correctly built."
Or.. you can consider that you have 4 controlling factors ... SCOPE (how large your rebuild project is), COST (your budget), TIME (how long you will take and how much personal time you will devote) and QUALITY. You cant affect one without affecting all.

Decreasing any of the 3.. will decrease the quality of the end project. I didn't realise truly how much it takes to get the car to where I wanted it until far far into the project. However, that isn't just a truism for Supras. That's how it is for any car this age or older.
 
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Well said, and also true. Also it needs to be considered that these cars tend to snowball into MUCH larger projects than initially thought...
 

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Re-read the entire thread! This is STILL a VERY good read for ALL... ESPECIALLY NEWCOMERS!!!;)



-crisp
 

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Re-read the entire thread! This is STILL a VERY good read for ALL... ESPECIALLY NEWCOMERS!!!;)



-crisp
I still consider this thread among (if not) my best contribution to the Supra community as a whole. :)
 

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This is an awesome thread to read and live by, in my opinion.
Thanks man, it's worked for me for the last ~6 years of Supra ownership, but has further uses too. Produce more than you use, and you'll be in good shape your whole life. :)
 

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Well said, and also true. Also it needs to be considered that these cars tend to snowball into MUCH larger projects than initially thought...
I rarely quote myself, but man, was this a prophetic post. I may need to revisit this thread, with the things I've learned in the near-decade since I initially wrote it.

As always, feel free to add any advice that can benefit others in here, things your Supra ownership has taught you over the years.