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Starting up my old thread. So the remanufactured rack I installed back in 2016 started leaking last year and its now at the point it needs replaced again. Does it even matter where I buy the rack at this point since they are all pretty much shit. Any suggestions would be helpful. I dont want a Cardone one after reading Piratetips old thread. Someone had recommended a a company in Detroit?

At this point rock auto doesn't even have them anymore. They just offer a rebuild service for $205 and Pep boys and Autozone dont even stock them.
 

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I haven't figured it out honestly.

I need to get another one too, but due to dead on center feel.

Toyota used to list a rebuilt rack, but I am not seeing it now.
Also I heard good things about detroit axle rebuilds, but they are quite expensive. ($650)

Its a crap shoot at this point, were SOL I think. :D

Do you have the rack with or without the dampener?
 

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I don’t know if they ship, but I’ve had zero problems with PPE. They charge you for the part +core and you give them the old one when you replace it and they’ll refund the core. It’s pretty convenient. I’ve gotten racks, alternators and starters from them.

http://www.performancepartsexch.com/
 

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I got mine off an ebay seller then sent my old one to a local rebuilder here in CA.
Ebay one is working fine for now so I haven't tried the rebuilt one yet.
 

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Lucky. Seems very hit and miss.

I contacted mavalgear to inquire about their rebuilds.
 

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I haven't figured it out honestly.

I need to get another one too, but due to dead on center feel.

Toyota used to list a rebuilt rack, but I am not seeing it now.
Also I heard good things about detroit axle rebuilds, but they are quite expensive. ($650)

Its a crap shoot at this point, were SOL I think. :D

Do you have the rack with or without the dampener?
With PPS. I would think this would be a great part for the heritage program. I bet I haven't even put 10k on my supra since 2016. That's a joke to me that its leaking.

$472 for the detriot axle rebuild. I don't mind paying if its a good quality part and will last a while.
 

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100% agree on the heritage parts.
If they offered a totally new rack, not a rebuild, I would buy it even if it was 800$.
I am so tired of shitty steering components.
 

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I don’t know if they ship, but I’ve had zero problems with PPE. They charge you for the part +core and you give them the old one when you replace it and they’ll refund the core. It’s pretty convenient. I’ve gotten racks, alternators and starters from them.

http://www.performancepartsexch.com/
I found this on the site but it says $100. Cant be accurate.

 

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I found this on the site but it says $100. Cant be accurate.

I’d call them. This place is where a lot of local shops, including some Supra shops, go to. They are definitely cheaper because they’re rebuilt, not new.
 

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After reading this entire thread, I'm not looking forward to pulling the steering rack. I have slight vibration in the front passenger side under braking that _seems_ to be getting worse. I've checked the both front rotors with a dial caliper and they don't seem warped. The whole knuckle assembly on both sides has some play in it without the rotor,passenger side being the most noticeable.

I've ordered new tie rod end for both sides just as a cheap quick fix to see if it improves.
 

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You might want to take a close look at the lower ball joints. They do fail regularly. Relatively easy to replace. I cannot imagine the rack is responsible for a vibration like that.
 

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Yea im not sure outter tie rods are your issue, Honestly sounds like rotors. Id go to Napa and try new rotors before I'd go down that path.
 

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I would agree that doesn't sound like a typical rack issue.
You could check the rack bushings also before you go and pull the entire thing as well.
 

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Install a hayden 1009 cooler. That will keep temps down. And use DexIII ATF only.
 

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You might still be able to rebuild the one you have. Is it leaking in the drivers side boot? Then the installation of the rack could have caused damage to the seal. Some people neglect to tape the teeth before pushing the rack through the cilinder and seal.
 

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I found someone that has an OEM 92 steering rack that was rebuilt. I figure this would be better than me buying another reman unit. Can anyone confirm a 92 rack with pps will work in my 89 with pps?
 

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It annoys me I even have to start this thread back up. I understand my car is from 1989 and I'll end up replacing most things at some point but what I don't expect to do is replace a steering rack I installed 4 years ago that has 10k miles on it. The rack leaves a puddle on my garage floor after driving and I have to fill the reservoir every other time I drive the car. The leaking rack is an aftermarket reman unit.

Long story short I paid $400 and bought an OEM rack that has been rebuilt and I am working to install it. I removed the reman one and I need to swap the inner and outer tie rods from the reman rack to my rebuilt OEM one.

As of now I am not able to break the any of the 4 inner tie rods loose on either rack. I assume there is thread lockers on them. My question is can I use heat to get them apart. My concern is heating the rack and damaging any seals inside the rack. Having never rebuilt one myself I am not sure of what type of seals are used.
 

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Use an impact gun with an inner tie rod tool.
It will break then free and not damage anything in the process.
Or use an open end wrench smack the end with a 6lb sledge if you have it out of the car.
Be sure to buy new inner tie rod lock washers, and stake them once fully tightened.
 

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Ok, thanks. Yes, it is out of the car. I was trying what you noted with a sledge hammer but I didn't have a big enough wrench so I had to use an adjustable wrench and it would open up on me when I would whack it.

I'm gonna need a bigger wrench......
 

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Yup an adjustable wouldn't work like you are noting.
 

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Get this harbor freight inner tie rod tool. Its cheap and does the job.
 

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Auto Zone / O Reillys, they loan tools with a credit card, every now and then they might have a tool that would work for what you need to do. Just return the tool in good condition and they'll issue a refund on your credit card, so you end up using the tool for free.
 

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I ended up getting 2 wrenches and a small sledge hammer to break the inner tie rods lose. I believe it was a 32mm or 1" 1/4 and then a 27mm. I had also rented a tie rod tool although I'm not sure how it works per my pic below. I know some of the other kits you rents like the one previously posted above have additional pieces so maybe I needed those. Also, can anyone recommend power steering fluid? I have been using Mobile 1 synthetic ATF. Also, could not find the copper crush washers needed for the DM high pressure line anywhere locally so I ordered more from DM. 20201107_123318.jpg