Project Git 'er done!: Stages 1, 2, and now 3...

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Git 'r done!: Stages 1-2-3!

Ok. It's been a LONG time since I've had a build thread.
On my last thread, I really only got about a 3rd of the way towards my goals. I've owned my '88 na(now turbo) Supra since 1996, and in that time I've done a lot of mods,
and in the process, I've replaced about every part of the car, except body panels, dash and seats. So, I guess that means, I should replace the body panels, dash and seat!
I figure if I work hard at this thing, I can get it completely finished by late summer, which means I'll have at least 3 or 4 months of enjoyment out of it before
The world ends...
I will have 4 stages to this build, and unlike my previous A.D.D. attempts to improve my car, I will focus only on one stage at a time, in the following order:

1. Suspension and steering
2. Interior
3. Body
4. Drivetrain
I've let my A.D.D. force me to buy various items for the car, and thus have 25% of everything I need for each stage, but not enough to complete any of them.
But I couldn't help it- when I saw a bargain- I jumped at it, such as:
92 bumper assembly:



Hail damage-free front fenders:


Cunningham rods:


Borla ProXS muffler and stupid-big tips:


T4 manifold:


New turbo oil pump and oil squirter bolts:


New oem in the bag 88 7MGTE engine harness:
 
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I admit- ther'e no money wasted in doing it this way, but it doesn't get the car any closer to completion.
So without further ado, welcome to stage one!
Plans are as follows:
REAR:
Remove rear subframe
Repair cracks and reinforce
Install Nylon/ rubber combo spacers
Install ES suspension bushings
Clean and reinstall
Replace Eibach/ Koni setup with Megan street coilovers

Let's begin...

Jack her up:


Disconnect my old(to be sold off) 3"exhaust, and aluminum(NOT to be sold off) driveshaft:


Brakes bled out and disconnected, and e-brakes disconnected, time to lower it:


Pull it out:


Unbolt all arms, swaybar and diff from the subframe:


Stage 1 of stage one complete:


Here, you'll notice the previous crack that was welded on the right, and the new, improved crack on the left:


Top view of the crack:


You'll notice in a couple of the pics, you can see that i had already installed some of the ES bushings. now I just have to finish them up.
I also have the oem replacement spherical bushings for the lower arms, which aren't included in the ES kit:


Also, I have the BIC nylon subframe spacers installed, but they transmit too much diff noise. Therefore, I plan to cut down their thickness, to
allow the use of the oem rubber spacers as well.

That's it for now, next is to weld and reinforce the subframe, and cut down the nylon spacers.
I hope you follow along with this process, and keep me moving on it.
Thanks for looking.
 
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looks great cant wait to see more
 

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Tomorrow, I bring the subframe to work, and will repair and reinforce it.
 

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Looks like you have some good stuff in your posession! What's the plan with the seats? And just because I said the word "seat" doesn't mean you need to slack off and take a seat. We gota keep ya motivated!
 

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Today I brought the subframe to work, and repaired the crack, and also welded in a plate of steel and two tubular support braces, between the front and rear diff mount walls.
I will have some pics tomorrow. The welds aren't pretty, so i need to smooth some of them out with my angle grinder, then paint the subframe.

As for seats, I plan to have a full set of leather/ suede replacement skins made for front and rear seats. I don't want any aftermarket seats, I like the feel of the stock ones.
The carpet will be replaced with what ACC calls their ultra plush line; it's a cut pile nylon, but much denser than stock- more like current cars. It will also have mass-backing, to reduce road noise.
The interior will also get a new double din head unit with navigation and bluetooth, and a new shallow mount subwoofer, to go in the hatch area. Windows will be stripped of old tint, and new tint installed.
Dash will come out for the install of a new heater core and new AC evaporator.

But that's all stage 2 stuff. I'm still dealing with stage 1- the suspension. I was considering replacing all of the rear arms with Battle Version adjustable arms, but I realized that would be overkill; I want my car to simply be a comfortable ride with a sporty edge to it. My overall goal for the car is to make it look slightly modernized, but factory. Like- what if the MkIII was kept in production for a few more years- how would it have evolved? That's my aim.

I have to go out of town tomorrow night for work, and I won't be home for about 5 days, so reassembly of the rear subframe will have to wait. While I'm out of town, I'll be ordering the Megan coilovers, so that they arrive when I'm home and not before. Also, I'll probably replace both rear half shafts, since mine have over 300,000 miles on them. Then it's on to the front suspension. New steering rack, front urethane bushings go in, and new ball joints. I have already rebuilt the power steering pump, and installed a stainless PS pressure line.
 

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So, here's the welded and braced subframe.
I used 1/4" plate steel on the inside face of the forward wall, and then welded in 1" seamless tubing.
I've seen alot of guys go nuts with corner angle braces, and plate the entire forward hump, but I felt that this would be enough reinforcement for my purposes.





Still trying to figure out how to get the rear axles out of the hubs. After 25 years, it seems that they are welded in place!
I've tried a two jaw puller on the rear disc, with said disc bolted down with the wheel nuts.
And I've tried bashing it out with a 3lb hammer. Problem is, I don't want to ruin the thread area, so that I can return these as cores.
So if anyone has any suggestions, I'm open to them.
:)
 
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Yes, I did remove the locknut, and I did spray both front and rear with PB blaster and left it overnight, with ~500lbs outward tension on the shaft.
No luck so far.
 

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Looks good Diego! I need you to weld mine up if I keep her that is.
 

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Not too much new here, as I've been out of town.
Currently at a bed & breakfast in Nantucket- it's a nice change.
I did just order the Megan street coilovers, so hopefully, they'll get to my house in a few days, and I can post a few installed pics.
 

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Well, Got just a little bit done today, more tomorrow, hopefully.
With some helpful advice from Toyotanos, I finally managed to break loose both of my rear CV axles:



Ordered some new ones, as well as new wheel studs for the rear.
Also, I managed to pop out one of the rear spherical bushings from the hub. In case you're curious- this is what they look like inside:
Old and new:


New one installed:



Tomorrow, I will clean both rear hubs, degrease both rear brake cables, and install the last few Energy suspension bushings,
and the other side's new spherical bushing. Both the new axles and the Megan coilovers should arrive Monday. then it's reassembly time.
 
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Today:
Pulled out the last two hub bushings(the lower rubber and lower spherical) from the passenger hub, and cleaned up the hubs/ painted them.
Under all that dirt it was practically bare metal, so I just threw little black paint on them too keep em from rusting.
If you notice in this pic, you'll see that both hubs had paint numbers on them, indicating to me that both rear hubs were replaced at one point.
I've had this car since '96, so the previous owner(a woman) must have fu@%ed up the rear end somehow...


After paint:



I would have done more work, but the temp was dropping like crazy here, so I packed it in.
Picked up all new rear studs today, as well as ordered two new balljoint dust boots for my upper control arms.
Found out that they're available seperately from the arms, and my arms are both in good shape, except for the boots.
Part number 43324-14010, in case anybody needs some.
So now, I'm waiting on:
Two new axles
Megan coilovers
balljoint boots
Warmer temps.
I expect that I'll be done with the rear suspension by Wednesday or Thursday, barring any out-of-town trips.
Then it's on to the front suspension.
 
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After install of parking brakes, cables and new studs:



I sure hope the axles come tomorrow, because I'm running out of things to do back there.
Regardless, I guess i'll be reinstalling the differential, hubs and all arms to the subframe, so it should at least *look* like there's progress...
The only other cosmetic thing I want to do, is powdercoat the calipers.
 
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:)
Yay me.
Now I'm looking for some axles to show up...
 
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AArgh!
I started assembling the rear subframe today, by installing the arms, diff, and hubs.
Problem is- I soon relized that the halfshafts were going to hit the new upper subframe braces!
SO, I had to cut them back out. Now I'll have to weld in some new ones, slightly outboard from the original positions.

On a brighter note, I picked up my new upper control arm ball joint boots from Toyota and installed them:


Also, I asked the parts guy about ordering a new boot for the balljoints on the rear toe arms, but he told me that Toyota doesn't sell them seperately.
He DID, however suggest that I go over to Honda, and see what they had, since they did have boots to sell seperately.
Here's what I came up with:

Not the right shape, right?
Here it is installed:




That's more like it!

Then, I decided to install the new Megans on the rear:


That's all for now. Still waiting on the new halfshafts, but I almost have the subframe completed.
 
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I had a feeling those braces were going to hit. :(
 

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Live and learn.
The old ones are already out. just gotta buy some new stock to weld in.
 

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Not too much new here.
Went over to my friend's house this weekend, and he helped me to powdercoat by rear calipers red, and my rotor hats black.
Decided after disassembling the calipers, that I would go ahead and buy a couple of rebuild kits for them, as one of the slider boots had a tiny tear in it,
and both pistons had a tiny bit of rusty residue in them. After those arrive, I'll be able to finish the rear subframe and reinstall it. Then it's on to the front subframe.
 

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YaaaaaaY!!!
This is looking scarily similar to my build. Im'a hop along for the ride on this one, hopefully i'll be able to contribute somehow.
 

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very nice cant wait to see what else you do !
giving me lots of ideas for my supra build!
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Don't worry, people!
I haven't stalled out, was just out of town for 9 days.
Came home to a few boxes- two reman'd axles, and all new rear brake hardware.

Here's old and new axles. They gave me 333,000 miles, they've earned their retirement.

 
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New brake hardware. Didn't even know there were supposed to be wear clips on the back:




Still waiting on one more box for the rear subframe; a little DIY project for the rear bushings.

PS- in that last pic, I got a bit carried away with wear clips, and accidentally put all 4 on one side.
I've fixed that, though. :)
 
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Powdercoated rotor hats and calipers:

 
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The few comments on the forums that I've seen, seem to all be very positive concerning the fitment, so I'm very optimistic.
 

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No updates this week.
Spent $500 on furniture and $300 on new Khumo's for my daughter's car.
Still waiting for some urethane parts to come in before I show off pics of the reinstalled rear subframe.
 

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So here's what I've been doing today.
I had BIC nylon rear subframe bushings, but they were too noisy, transmitting too much of the diff noise into the car.
If this were going to be a track car, I wouldn't care, as they do take out all the slop, but this is going to be a road car for 99% of its life.
I tried Raptor racing for rear bushings, but they were out and didn't expect to be ordering a set any time soon. So, I decided to make my own.
Not bushings, mind you, just a replacement spacer to ADD to the originals. The rubber on mine was in great condition, they just weren't thick enough
to take up the slack. So I just used them as molds for the additional thickness of a liquid urethane spacer, in 80A hardness.

My original bushings:


Cut out some drink cups- perfect diameter for this project:


To make sure they didn't seep, I silicone'd the cups on:


I placed in sockets to match the center shaft size. Both the insides of the cups, and the sockets were coated with a PAM cooking spray:


Liquid urethane mixed with hardener, and poured, making sure to match the levels between the spacers:


Now, I just have to wait two + days for full curing before the subframe is reinstalled.
Then I finally go on to the front suspension.
 
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Here's one firm enough to remove from the cup:

 
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We'll see.
I checked the new spacers tonight, and they are almost fully cured.
They seem to be just slightly harder than the original rubber, which is what i wanted.
I have to go out of town for a few days, so I'll just let them sit on the bench, so I know that they'll be fully cured when I get back and install them.
 

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Getting there...



Subframe in, Shocks, Ebrakes, and halfshafts connected.
Tomorrow, I'll finish reconnecting the brake lines and driveshaft, and then I'll turn the car around so I can begin on the front suspension and brake upgrade.
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Rear subframe/ suspension: DONE



Oops- I guess I have to adjust the ride height back there...:biglaugh:

Next- the second half of stage 1: Front suspension

Remove front subframe
Remove upper and lower arms
Powdercoat lower arms and replace all bushings with Energy Suspension
Replace steering rack and tie rods
Replace steering rack bushings
Replace lower balljoints
Inspect upper A-arms, replace if necessary
Inspect subframe bushings, replace as necessary

And...rather than rebuild and powdercoat the original front calipers as I had planned, I decided to upgrade:




Front Cobra calipers and rotors.
 
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PS- A big thanks to Airhead04 for the Cobra brackets!
 

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Got some good progress done today on the front.
I started taking off front body panels to facilitate my access, as well as reduce my workload when I start on the bodywork stage:

Removed old busted Kaminari bumper:




Then the header panel, bumper reinforcemtent and grill:



Then the inner and outer fenders:



Then on to the front suspension. Apparently, my tierod ends and balljoints were more tired than I thought(they were all replaced about 8 years ago):


Looking pretty bare:


Also, my Cobra rotors showed up. Here's a comparison to my old rotors:



Now I'm waiting on the bracket kit for the brakes, and new balljoints to arrive.
Next, I have to degrease the lower arms, replace all the bushings with ES bushings. Some were pretty chewed up.
Then I powdercoat the lower arms and replace the steering rack and bushings.
 
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