Obama to attempt to silence gun blogs by way of ITAR

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Of course the idiots in Ohio that keep electing his ally liberal re-publican John Boehner are as much to blame as to why he is not yet impeached and removed to jail over his many high crimes.

ITAR is the weapons side of exporting commerce and requires State Department approval. Click here.

"In their current form, the ITAR do not (as a rule) regulate technical data that are in what the regulations call the 'public domain.' Essentially, this means data 'which is published and which is generally accessible or available to the public' through a variety of specified means. These include 'at libraries open to the public or from which the public can obtain documents.' Many have read this provision to include material that is posted on publicly available websites, since most public libraries these days make Internet access available to their patrons.

"The ITAR, however, were originally promulgated in the days before the Internet. Some State Department officials now insist that anything published online in a generally-accessible location has essentially been 'exported,' as it would be accessible to foreign nationals both in the U.S. and overseas.

"With the new proposal published on June 3, the State Department claims to be 'clarifying' the rules concerning 'technical data' posted online or otherwise 'released' into the 'public domain.' To the contrary, however, the proposal would institute a massive new prior restraint on free speech. This is because all such releases would require the 'authorization' of the government before they occurred. The cumbersome and time-consuming process of obtaining such authorizations, moreover, would make online communication about certain technical aspects of firearms and ammunition essentially impossible."
 

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Good luck enforcing that nonsense. An easy work around would be for forums to make tech sections 'private' or force you to enter your country just like alcohol sites require a birthday.

Stupid stuff and won't stop anyone who cares enough to use the info maliciously.
 

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Stupid stuff and won't stop anyone who cares enough to use the info maliciously.
They are well aware of this. They aren't after the ones who use the info maliciously. They are after their own law abiding citizens.

"Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry."

Welcome to post-constitutional America.
 

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I've been dealing with ITAR and EAR regulations for a long time now. ITAR and EAR regs have nothing to do with Obama, they were around with Bush, and are to prevent US arms technology leaking out to adversaries. So much misinformation in all of these posts.
 

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Good luck enforcing that nonsense.
I guess you missed the last 6 years of our government committing crimes like "Fast and Furious", which was an attempt to drum up support to repeal the 2nd amendment by saying look at the gun problem and all the crime. That is only scratching the surface.

ITAR and EAR regs have nothing to do with Obama
Well, he is the Chief Executive of our government and ordered DS to do what he is not otherwise authorized to do. He is back trying to go through the back door what doesn't go through the front. All politicians do it to some extent.


they were around with Bush, and are to prevent US arms technology leaking out to adversaries.
And he is going to use it to stop fire arms blogs, which are a haven of information on political goings.

So much misinformation in all of these posts.
Which parts? You think the article is incorrect?