How much have you spent on your MkIII

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I'm semi retired so I was
the Ho's ...

Never added up how much I spent but it was a LOT as I didn't cut a single corner.

Even spread out of the 13 years I owned the Fat Car it was still a bunchOcash.
I just had to say that I have never seen anything like your car was at any level. To say you didn't cut any corners is a gross understatement. This man's car was without a doubt primary in being one of the cars that insipred me and even though it's gone, it still inspires my car related activities.
 

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I am somewhere near 7500 including purchase price. It will be much more in the near future, but some of that will be recovered by the sale of things. Within the next year, I am looking at new wheels, paint and a new interior, along with selling my 1jz/r154 single turbo motorset and swapping a 2jz-gte "stock twin" auto in.
 

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Over two and a half years i thrown about 11000 lt, that's about 4500 usd, in my mk3. That's including simple needed repairs and another 7m with all the work.
 

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Just topped 20k into my car in 3 years (including the 6k purchase price). Almost all (except maybe 2k) is body and paint. I like new parts where I can.. and they are hella expensive and my mechanic abilities aren't up to par for me to trust myself doing the engine work.

A lot of people assume that a car like this is overexpensive. I dont think that. ANY car is a waste of money unless you have a classic car worth 60,000+ and can afford to store it in a humidty controlled storage area.. and at that point.. you probably arent someone who has to worry about money anyway. Also I think in about 5 years, the market for these cars will change quite a bit as people start collecting more Japanese/Euro cars (face it.. the classic US car crew is retiring.. lol). The kids that grow up in the "fast and the furious" age will have Supra stamped in their brain and the cars are dying quicker than being revived.
For repair costs.. bear in mind.. the brakes on a 1999 Chrysler 300M (17") cost over 650.00 in parts if you cheap out. You dont even want to look at repair costs on the newer vehicles when the engine dies prematurely or the automagic transmission with additional faux-shifing starts acting wonky. And good rims and tires can be done on a budget.. but proper ones are NOT cheap... and.. who wants a cheap Supra?

The real problem is, the car is undervalued because repairs are usually VERY intensive and VERY expensive (2 words that will crater most "hobbiests"). I could have bought a MKIV and been further ahead, however, I really dont like the look of them although the ride is much better. The MKIII is very unique and I personally can just stand outside and stare at it. Its like Opium. :)

Nothing cheap on the car except the selling price..

I researched the car for 2 years before buying (should have researched 4... ) and planned on putting roughly 36,000 into it when done. No disappointment here

Worth it? logically no.. emotionally ... very.

Oh forgot to mention.. my car is insured as a Collector's car.. I dont know about other areas, but in Alberta this is already classified as an antique. :)
 

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I just had to say that I have never seen anything like your car was at any level. To say you didn't cut any corners is a gross understatement. This man's car was without a doubt primary in being one of the cars that insipred me and even though it's gone, it still inspires my car related activities.
I think it's fair to say IJ *made* some of the corners, no? :)

Over two and a half years i thrown about 11000 lt, that's about 4500 usd, in my mk3. That's including simple needed repairs and another 7m with all the work.
From what I remember you saying in another thread about budgeting, that is basically a small fortune in your area, correct? That's some dedication!

Also I think in about 5 years, the market for these cars will change quite a bit as people start collecting more Japanese/Euro cars (face it.. the classic US car crew is retiring.. lol).
I'm not so sure I can agree with you entirely on that. My brother is only 23, and has had a 1964 Impala 4 door for some 4 or 5 years now, he LOVES that thing, and frankly... so do I. My car is more capable in nearly every respect, but it will never, despite all my plans, make me feel as 'cool' as riding in his car does. There will always be a market for classic US (well, classic anything) cars. The classic Japanese car is basically anything from the 60's and 70's though, and given time, cars from the 80's will be considered classic too. :)
 

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From what I remember you saying in another thread about budgeting, that is basically a small fortune in your area, correct? That's some dedication!
Well, roughly putt, it's worth about half a year of my sallary. For some people here even a whole year. Money isn't the real isue here. It's all about satisfaction. I don't regret any money spent on that thing.
On the side note, it's not that big sum of money. If you try to distribute it over more than two years. There are friends of mine that spent tripple or more on their cars. But those are purpose made for sports. Mine is a DD.
 

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I'm not so sure I can agree with you entirely on that. My brother is only 23, and has had a 1964 Impala 4 door for some 4 or 5 years now, he LOVES that thing, and frankly... so do I. My car is more capable in nearly every respect, but it will never, despite all my plans, make me feel as 'cool' as riding in his car does. There will always be a market for classic US (well, classic anything) cars. The classic Japanese car is basically anything from the 60's and 70's though, and given time, cars from the 80's will be considered classic too. :)
True, but the worthy oldsters that I grew up with are all above the 20,000 mark now (in any kind of shape) and the ultimate beauties are 100k+. Although, there are still some mide 60 ponies out for under 10k and the odd pre-72 Camaro for under 10k as well. They are excellent to own (my wife would love one.. she hates my car.. lol) but I have had 70's cars and as a project/hobby.. yes.. definitely. However, for drivability? nope. I hate how dangerous a nice MachI Mustang is on the highway with its extremely light backend. I also am too old to drive without shoulder belts.. the ones that dont retract are very restrictive.

Now... there are a horde of vettes that are buyable... but to me.. thats just an American Supra. :p
 

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True, but the worthy oldsters that I grew up with are all above the 20,000 mark now (in any kind of shape) and the ultimate beauties are 100k+. Although, there are still some mide 60 ponies out for under 10k and the odd pre-72 Camaro for under 10k as well. They are excellent to own (my wife would love one.. she hates my car.. lol) but I have had 70's cars and as a project/hobby.. yes.. definitely. However, for drivability? nope. I hate how dangerous a nice MachI Mustang is on the highway with its extremely light backend. I also am too old to drive without shoulder belts.. the ones that dont retract are very restrictive.

Now... there are a horde of vettes that are buyable... but to me.. thats just an American Supra. :p
All depends on where you get them. Brother paid something like $1500 for his car, and it's in pretty damned good shape. For that kind of price though, it's definitely a long term commitment and a good deal of restoration involved if you want a pristine car without paying out the ass up front for a car that's already been fixed up.

Oh, and I bet the Vette crowd would LOVE to hear you compare their halo car to a 'mere' Japanese sports car. Probably lynch you! :rofl:

Well, roughly putt, it's worth about half a year of my sallary. For some people here even a whole year. Money isn't the real isue here. It's all about satisfaction. I don't regret any money spent on that thing.
On the side note, it's not that big sum of money. If you try to distribute it over more than two years. There are friends of mine that spent tripple or more on their cars. But those are purpose made for sports. Mine is a DD.
I doubt you'll find anyone in this thread that does regret the money spent on their cars. Only regret I have is the interest paid on the credit I was stupid enough to use to buy parts for an engine I no longer have. ;)
 

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I doubt you'll find anyone in this thread that does regret the money spent on their cars. Only regret I have is the interest paid on the credit I was stupid enough to use to buy parts for an engine I no longer have. ;)
Although it was a learning experience, I really wish I went 2jz off of the bat instead of going 1jz.
 

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I wouldn't have minded a 2j, but when I was about to buy, a 1j setup they had (Jhot, RIP) caught my eye. Came with a spare R154 rather than the Aristo auto, had a lot less miles, and was in really nice shape, for roughly the same price. Not disappointed at all with the money spent on the 1j setup, keeps up (or at least kept up, I think Dustin has a good 160+whp on me by now) with anyone I knew without a monster 7m, so... yeah.

If I were doing another Mk3 fresh from scratch though, I'd probably go for the 2j. Ideally a VVTI 3.4, if my wallet were bulging. ;)
 

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Boss turbo; 1500
HKS exhaust; 730
Lipp Lex/550; 700
Toyota radiator; 500
GReddy profec b; 375
 

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I'm at 18k without the wheels, that i just spent another 3200.00 on, okay I'm definitely depress now :(
 

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I'm somewhere over $50k. About $10-11k this year, $8k last year and another $7K the year before. Mind you I've redone a few things along the way (got about $3k into my headlights alone) and I've had some major problems and set backs the last 3 years. Reality of it, I've stopped counting and I don't have a large chunk of the receipts I should have. My wife has finally put me on a $600 every 3 month budget for the Supra and I've already spent half of that in a the first month alone.

If you were to ask me was all the money and time spent worth it, I'd reply with a very happy "yup!"
 
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Just a small second mortgage on my soul.

But you do not ask the correct question....Which is....

How much money have you spent on your car and has it been worth it for the time that you have owned it?

Time in my car = PRICELESS! Worth every penny as is evidenced by the big silly stupid grin on my face every time I am behind the wheel!

It never fails to put me in a great mood!

I've owned mine for 22 years now. Original owner.
Hell yea! always puts me in the best of moods!
I'm in like 15k+car.. lol still can't drive it yet either >.< finishing the build almost their

noone should feel bad either... would you rather buy a brand new lets say Acura TL or a Infiniti for anywhere from 20-30k and have a brand new car degrade overtime?
or buy a fixer upper supra for 2-5k and spend your time and love over the years building up a amazing car making it Newer as time goes on :) plus Restoring what is soon to be our Classic Cars.. ouch 90-2011 21yrs just 4 more to go.
 

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After this rebuild im going to be up around 5k and then it will be just suspension mods left, weight reduction, wheels, and paint job. im hoping to be happy with my ride by 10k....
 

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I think most people's Supra experience (first timers...) goes kinda like this...

EXCITEMENT - you found it!!!
Disappointment - you found more than you bargained for...

I know of 3 instances where people have bought Supras just this year near me that have went like that.. one died about 1 week after purchase, one was going to pour tons of $$ into it... until the bill climbed over 3200.00 (and that was just teardown and diagnosis.. lol), and one bought, drove, died, sold.. 2 month time.

Now... my city has 1 million people... so.. I imagine that is happening everywhere.. to some degree. No idea how long it will take until people dont have the "cheap Supras" to buy anymore. I still kind of choke a bit when I see Rodel's car for sale for under 20,000 or the Cherry Widebody for 20,000. Those cars are worth well over 30,000 and they will be VERY hard pressed to sell at anything over 8,000.

In general, I find that the majority of Supra worshippers are under 24 (not all... just most) and are building careers, going to school, starting to consider families or having them already and they can't afford to spend 30,000 on a car with 70,000 put into it. So.. if your in a panic sell situation.. good luck. I personally would pay the 20k for the Widebody on in B.C. or Rodel's car. IF... I hadn't already put my car in the shop... just because I am sooooo much farther ahead doing so.

unfortunately.. you dont learn that until your swimming in the pool.
 

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I'm at 18k without the wheels, that i just spent another 3200.00 on, okay I'm definitely depress now :(
Don't feel bad man, the stance and look those wheels gave your car could very well be what makes a difference. Pricey for sure, but they're gorgeous, and fit the car quite nicely. I don't even like 19's, but you've made them work without looking silly.

I'm somewhere over $50k. About $10-11k this year, $8k last year and another $7K the year before. Mind you I've redone a few things along the way (got about $3k into my headlights alone) and I've had some major problems and set backs the last 3 years. Reality of it, I've stopped counting and I don't have a large chunk of the receipts I should have. My wife has finally put me on a $600 every 3 month budget for the Supra and I've already spent half of that in a the first month alone.

If you were to ask me was all the money and time spent worth it, I'd reply with a very happy "yup!"
$600 every 3 months? So... $200 per month, $2400 per year? At least from the sounds of it, you're a lot further along with the car than I am, it would take FOREVER to finish what I've started if I had to stick to that budget.

unfortunately.. you dont learn that until your swimming in the pool.
I think 90% of the problem with Mk3's is a general lack of patience by the people that buy them. I mean, I've been a Supra owner for nearly 6 years now, and my pinnacle has still been a relatively stock 1j with a decent suspension and tire setup. No more, no less. Had I been smarter with my money over the years, I probably could be done with my ideal Mk3 by now, but as it is, I'm still a couple years out I think.
 

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Around $6k. $300 for the car to begin with and north from there with the crate engine, rebuilt turbo, new carpet, new exhaust, and on and on and on. By the time I'm done (including paint), I'll probably have about $10k invested in cash. Personal time invested in putting her back in good running order I don't even want to think about (though I'm currently sitting at 3.5 years).
 

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Body kits/Custom Fabs/Paint: 10,000
Engine Upgrades/Electronics/Swaps NA-T: 20,000
System Upgrades/Interior Upgrade: 10,000
Wheels/Tires: 3,500
 

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Body kits/Custom Fabs/Paint: 10,000
Engine Upgrades/Electronics/Swaps NA-T: 20,000
System Upgrades/Interior Upgrade: 10,000
Wheels/Tires: 3,500
I would think the above is pretty well a guideline with the exception of the Engine upgrade and system/interior. Done properly you can probably cut that in half if you start out with the correct plan. Unfortunately.. those that keep with the entire project will probably meet that cost in the end. :)


... and be damn happy.
 

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Body kits/Custom Fabs/Paint: 10,000
Engine Upgrades/Electronics/Swaps NA-T: 20,000
System Upgrades/Interior Upgrade: 10,000
Wheels/Tires: 3,500
Suspension?

and $10K on the interior and stereo? Your car must have marble floors and gold plated speakers! lol.
 

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Including price of car, repairs, and upgrades... about $17k over 5 years. Thousands more in parts is on the shopping list.
 

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At one time, Toyota sold the TRD package that had a $7500 audio upgrade.
 

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It doesnt take a lot of money to build a decent Supra.
Ummm... no, but the factors are pretty rigid. Either you got a lot of skill and free time (and equipment) or you travel the money pit. And... there is a difference between "decent" Supra.. and your Supra. I have truly tried to plan and whittle the $$ down to make my car what I want and not break the bank, however.. I find that I have a few problems...

1. I dont have the time I need to do the work (unless I want this to be a 30 year project)
2. I wont cut corners unless its accidental (I didn't know better) or I cant see a better way of doing it
3. I dont have any body skills at all, cant weld, am a mediocre mechanic (I do a mean oil change, though...) and trust myself half as much as most shops I go to...
4. I want the car to match the picture in my head.

All of that combined = $$...

If I wanted to save money, I would have bought a new Chrysler...
 

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I have about 25k into mine and have about 3k left on my shopping list....I look at this car as a education. When i bought this car i knew nothing! I have done all the work myself and while i have had to fix things i screwed up, i feel confident to work on almost anything and have now worked at many shops and some performance shops all from experience i gained from this car. And really i could car less about all that, I still love the feeling of rolling in my 24 year old jap car laying down 500whp knowing that no one can touch me! (except gurley as of late..lol)
 

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I'm curious......everyone always says, supra owners arn't patient enough, don't do things right, supra's cost so much more than other cars.......

But do they really? If I had bought a similar car in 1990, I dunno what would be an equivalent boosted car from that year? And gone through all the same upgrades/attained the same power gains relative to stock. Would I really have spent way less?

I know this is hardly a typical example, but I personally can't name another vehicle that could take over 450hp for 15 years of it's lifespan through the stock powertain for that length of time. Nevermind at all AND be put through regular drag racing and general shit and abuse that I have ....

WITHOUT A SINGLE REBUILD or upgrade until just now my tranny is begining to complain as is my diff. But a corvette from 1990 (although not boosted so clearly not a fair comparison, i believe boosted cars in general are more expensive in every way to own/keep/upgrade/keep running at those higher performance levels)

But seriously, I would be interested in a no biased opinion here on something similar from any auto manufacturor showing costs etc. Cheaper or not, I honestly don't clearly know this answer. Anyone?
 

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and to comment on flateric's, the supra was intended to compete with the vettes, but i agree, i cannot think of any forein car...american build was the 3.1 i think it was turbo v-6 that went in the cyclone, typhoon, Gn and GNX, gta trans am pace cars
 

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In answer to Flateric, I cant think of a single one. However, I bought the Supra at the tail end of my "owning cars" lifetime. I considered many as well, vettes, older Camaros, Firebirds, etc (pre-70) and considered a new car (there are some "spiffy" ones out there), but in the end, I just remember all my multitude of cars I have owned. My first car was a 72 Corolla and I owned a few of them and then graduated to Celicas. Then 6 kids forced me into Mini-vans with the Odyssey. Throughout I have owned all different kinds (foreign and domestic) and I have never been happier than when I drove Toyotas. For me personally, thats the brand.

When I went to buy the Supra, I wanted a MKII originally, but failing to find one that suited my needs, I stumbled on a MKIII. Of all the Supra models, this one just seems to be the most perfect for my tastes and the turbo/targa was a bonus that I didn't even consider at first. However, I am not by any means "young".. as I edge 50 now... so comfort wise, the car is pretty close to being perfect, albeit it is a sports car. I believe the bulk of MKIII owners are initially young (pre-25) and buy them for the looks/power/status of the Supra name. Then they meet the demons and we can go out and pick them up for very cheap (which is another attraction for the young crowd). However, in the end, those of us who love the car and want it to be better than original end up spending as much as we would on a new car.

Now.. when I go out shopping for a new car (and I do occasionally.. just to see what they are producing..), even with all the bells and whistles and their advertised 300+HP... I see a lot of things I dont like about them. One being the fact that they are all meant to be driven a lot and be low maintenance until the 5-7 year mark. Then they are thrown in the jelly bean jar with all the rest of the jelly beans and their value is shot to hell and the repairs are just the same as what we face on building our cars.

I think that if you are a true Supra owner, you chose to be because
a. They are unique. (face it.. every time I hit the road I get people following me, the pump-jockeys have to always do the "walk-around" and I cant go on the highway without a car pulling up beside me to either "thumbs-up" or "lets go!".
b. They have potential. Choose what you want.. and build it. The car facilitates you.
c. They are unique. Did I mention that?

There are definitely "better" cars to buy out there (less headache), provided you understand how to maintain a car.. but there are very few of our cars on the road. 20,000 - 80,000 into it... to me.. is totally worth it. If you go for broke and pump a whole whack of $$ and time into the car, you will know whats under your butt pushing you along on the roadway.. you wont be staring at a car with a blinking light wondering.. "well.. wtf... ".

The Supra (for me the MKIII) is a totally worthwhile endeavour.. and other than my wife.. I have not met anyone who doesnt envy me owning mine. I think that says a bit.