eraezer - Supra MK3 -89 -Swedish Build

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Re: eraezer - Supra MK3 -89 - Current state: The work has begun

-:|Update - 2008-01-03|:-

Some more work has been done :)

The supra is now on jackstands and the wheels are off. Almost all interior is out and so
is the sound deadening (not on picture).

Some more things that are not on picture is that the rear brakes, rear struts, bolts between
the propeller shaft and diff and the bolts between the drive axles and diff are out.


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Most of the interior is now out




It's up in the air and the wheels are off




Here you can see how I placed the jackstands and that the exhast is down


Pic of the rear right "wheel house"


The rust I have found ...rear right




...rear left




A sensor on the thermostat housing that has an broken vacuum connection :-/
 

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Re: eraezer - Supra MK3 -89 - Current state: The work has begun

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Today I had to take a break from all the studying (have an exam tomorrow) so I went to the garage :)
Had some lunch and removed the rear subframe :)


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The rear subframe is down






Managed to remove some bolts before I went home


Some pics show that most of the sond deadening is gone







It's a bit dusty in the garage
 

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Re: eraezer - Supra MK3 -89 - Current state: Removing rust

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Did some more work on the subframe today. But I'm having some problem removing one of the bolts
holding the diff in place and the bolts holding the lower control arms in place are stuck.
I also removed the rear bumper.


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A bit more stripped subframe


Found a bit more rust








A pic of the rear with the bumper of
 

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Started the work against the evil rust today. Drained the fuel and removed the fuel tank to
avoid any fires and explosions :)


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Marked some rust to cut away


Removed the fuel tank


Cut away some rust


Started cleaning the right rear wheelhouse


 

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I don't like rust, so I started cutting it away today.


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Cut away some more rust










Some of the pieces that I cut away
 

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It was time to bite the bullet and start welding.
I got started on the part around the filler neck pretty ok but when I took a break from that
and start inside the wheel house it got bad :-/
My welder didnt want to work like I wanted it to, I got alot of spatter on me which left burnmarks
on my stomach, arms and legs and I kept hitting my welding helmet on everything.
So I called it a day and went home. Better luck next time... I hope.


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Started making a copy of the wheel house that goes around the filler neck


Started welding together a rust free wheel house....but it didnt go so well


 

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Re: eraezer - Supra MK3 -89 - Current state: Removing rust

Man that sucks,a lot of work to fix.Good luck with the repair,glad to see it being done right.How are all the floors and everything?Here's a couple pics of mine when I started stripping it down.Kudos on all the work,the undercarriage is a bitch to strip,let alone repair.



I was surprised/amazed that my fender wells were that clean,especially being a Michigan car most of its life.
 

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Re: eraezer - Supra MK3 -89 - Current state: Removing rust

Keep us updated. FYI the sensor that is broken has broken on my car 3 times i keep getting them from my local junkyard but now i cant find any more, they are all broken.
 

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Re: eraezer - Supra MK3 -89 - Current state: Removing rust

nice to see somebody else taking the plunge with a rusty supra....mine was a bit worse, but I must admit, I didn't do the bodywork myself. Nice work.
 

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Thank you guys :)
So far it looks like the rust liked the rear wheel houses to much to go anywhere else, which I'm glad for.
Now it's time for another visit to my supra...there will be an update up later tonight (swedish time)
 

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Now I'm done welding the top part of the plate that I started on the last time.
It still looks like rabbit shit, but it seams to work...atleast I hope so.

Then I did some more work on the plate that goes around the fillerneck.
I cut the hole for the opening and put it in place in the car, holding it in place with
the gromet. I still need to do some more work on it before I can weld it in.
I also want to primer the outside of it before I weld it in.


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Fixing the hole for the fillerneck




Fitting the plate around the fillerneck








Painted some primer on the inside of the first plate


Finished welding in the first plate, but it looks like rabbit shit
 

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Re: eraezer - Supra MK3 -89 - Current state: Removing rust

Looks like something i need to get started on. lol Very nice work. I think I'll subscribe to this one. :icon_razz
 

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So, I tried a product called Label Off and it worked extremly good on the sound deadening mats.
The idea was also to try it on the undercarriage paint since both are based on asphalt,
but it didnt do much good. I then removed the remaining undercarriage paint in the right
rear wheelhouse oldschool style ;) grinder with an rotating wirewheel.


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I cleaned up a little bit :)


The rear right wheel house is alot cleaner








Found some more rust


Label off work done on the right and still working on the left side
 

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My arch dilemma is holding me back a bit. I want to cut away more rust and weld in new steel.
But I need to change my arches and depending on the way I will take to solve this problem I might
make it harder if I repair to surrounding rust. The best way is to weld in arches from a healthy
supra.
So whiel waiting for some answers regarding some arches from another supra I'm removing undercarriage
paint.
This time it was time to do some in the rear left wheel house.
I started with a heat gun and something to scrape with, then I use the grinder with a wirewheel.


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One of my favorite tools


The rear left wheel house looks a bit better now






Found some more rust
 

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Re: eraezer - Supra MK3 -89 - Current state: Removing rust

it looks like you a trying to mig with flux core wire? no gas? definatley need to invest in some..
what did you use to remove the sound deadening in the car?
 

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Nop, I did use welding gas (Mison 18), but I was working against gravity and it was hard to reach and therfor the result :/

I first used a gasket scrape with a hammer and then I'm using a product called label off to remove the remaining stuff.
 

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Today I worked some more on the rear left wheelhouse, most of the undercoating is gone there.
I also cut away some rust that I will weld the next time I'm there.

When taking apart the rear subframe before I had a problem with one of the bolts holding the
diff in place. The nut that is inside the subframe rotated with the bolt.
So I did some cutting and welding and now the nut is locked in a correct position and can not
move. I will weld back the pieces I cut off when the primer is dry on the inside.


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Subframe before


Subframe after some cutting


Subframe after some more cutting and some welding


Did the same on the other side of the diff


Primered


A magnetic earth spot, just bought it


Rear left wheelhouse






 

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The idea was to go to the garage today, but after picking up my mom at her job the outer
ball joint went on the DD volvo :-/
 

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the mazdas over here are for women to drive.:biglaugh:
I tried to get the woman to drive my mazda but she's too scared of it.

Looking forward to the HX52 that you are going to bolt onto that old 7m :)

Can anyone tell me what type of trigger pattern the 7m uses? Our swede will be needing an engine management system for his upgrades at some point so I had better make sure mine works with it :)

Fred.
 

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hey man, nice to see you here, welcome.

haha lol, don't know about any HX52....maybe one of those HX55 that are lying around in school ;)

The 7M uses a cam pos. system, so I will mount something on the crank.

As soon as your system is ready to be installed in cars I will install it in both of my cars ;) (since the third is a carby.).
 

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Hello,
it's soon time to start clicking on those buy buttons in the webshops.
But since I'm new with 7M-GTE and the whole supra scene I would really appreciate if you guys could give me some help.

I currently don't have the money to do an engine build right now, but there are some things I need to fix with the engine.

I need to order new bushings for both front and rear and I think I'm going for Energy Suspension poly bushings.
But I also need to change the rear subframe bushings and the idea is to make them in the lathe in school,
does anyone have messurements for these?

I need to change the valve cover gaskets and re-seal the oil pan so I will take out the engine and do some cleaning.
What else should I be doing while the engine is out?
The HG has been changed in a shop by a previous owner, but I doubt it's MHG and I don't think they used ARP hardware.
Should I change to ARP head studs now? MHG now or wait?

I have been reading on forums to gain some info on how to treat this car, but there are still some question marks.
For ex. there are many companys out there makin stainless braided brake lines, but is one better than the other?

Regarding the gaskets, should I just buy a headgasket kit to get all the other gaskets? if so which one?

It would be great if you could help me with the question marks.

I will be ordering these parts from webshops in the USA to save some money so it will take about two weeks before
I get all the stuff and it would be nice if I at that point don't realize that I'm missing something.



What I know I need to change:
bushings, front and rear: Energy Suspension
Brakelines: ?
Sparkplugs: NGK BCPR7ES from ebay
Ignition wires: ?
Valvecover gaskets. ?
center valley gasket.
Seal for the oil pan.
vacuum lines.
Timing belt. Gates
Gearbox oil. Redline MT-90
Diff oil. Redline?
Hood struts. 935 Motorsport 2* $19.99
Heavy Duty Shifter Sockets. Marlin Crawler
Heavy Duty Shifter Seats. Marlin Crawler

Thank you in advance.
 

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Re: eraezer - Supra MK3 -89 -Swedish Build- Current state: Removing rust and buying p

62 views since my post and 0 replys :(
 

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Re: eraezer - Supra MK3 -89 -Swedish Build- Current state: Removing rust and buying p

Seem to have a good start on your list.Might want to think about getting a full gasket kit,sucks to not replace one and have it leak.Are you planning to get/already have a metal head gasket?
And,on your bushings,be aware the energy's come with all but two bushings,these two on the rear arm to spindle,the one there is a ball and socket,instead of a standard bushings.This is the bushing here.
 

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hi, thanks for your reply :)
then I have a follow up question, does it mather which gasket set I go with or are they all the same? Felpro, stone, toyota oem...

I'm not shure on what to do regarding the HG :S
As I said it has been changed, but probably not with a MHG.
Let's say that there is no problem with the current HG, can I then change just clean the surfaces and install a MHG? or do I still need to redo the surfaces?

Can I buy those bushings separate?
 

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My advice : Don't open the engine until you plan to do everything at once, just drive it.
Secondly : Don't take it off the road to do that, get another 7m and take your time building it up in your garage while you drive and enjoy the car.

As for the CAS vs crank thing, I'm still keen to know what they have in them stock. Chances are it's the same as all other toyota engines and the F2T but it may not be.

I'll find the subscribe button now so I don't forget.

Fred.
 

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hi, thanks for your reply :)
then I have a follow up question, does it mather which gasket set I go with or are they all the same? Felpro, stone, toyota oem...

I'm not shure on what to do regarding the HG :S
As I said it has been changed, but probably not with a MHG.
Let's say that there is no problem with the current HG, can I then change just clean the surfaces and install a MHG? or do I still need to redo the surfaces?

Can I buy those bushings separate?
The Toyota oem set is the best,but pricey.Heard a lot of good about the Stone set,and personally have had good luck with the Fel-pro.
In order to use the mhg you have to have the block(w/timing cover) and head machined to a finer finish.
The bushings are available separately from toyota,~$35 each.
 

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toy_fanatic78: then I will wait with that bushing.
Fred: I will follow your advice, but not completly :) Since I'm replacing the VC gaskets I will check the valve clearance and re-torque the head bolts.

Updated buy list:
bushings, front and rear: Energy Suspension from Zankoku, $120 total
Brakelines: Techna Fit +PCV Smoke from horsepowerfreaks.com $125
Sparkplugs: NGK BCPR7ES from ebay OR NGK Iridium BCPR7EIX from 935motorsports.com $49 ??
Ignition wires: NGK Wire set from 935motorsports.com $69 OR MSD 8.5mm set from 935motorsports.com $80 ??
Head Gasket Set: Stone from 935motorsports.com $149
Spark Plug Cover: LIPP from Horsepowerfreaks.com $35
Timing belt: Gates from Driftmotion.com $75
Heavy Duty Shifter Seats. Marlin Crawler From driftmotion.com $12
Heavy Duty Shifter Socket. Marlin Crawler From driftmotion.com $6.50
Shifter gasket: Toyota from Horsepowerfreaks.com $0.97
CT26 Rebuild kit: From driftmotion.com $79.99
Bimetallic valve: From driftmotion.com $49.99


Oil setup:
Oil cooler: B&M SuperCooler BMM-70272 8"x11"x1.5" from Summit $109.95
Fittings: -8 AN from summit
Oil filter adapter: Canton CTR-22-595 from summit $59.95
 

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any more ideas about the list? ...I have an update to post if you do ;)
Now it's not that long til I can work on my supra again. I'm having an exam on thuesday and directly after that I will fix the balljoint on the dd volvo out in the cold. Then I will race to the garage and get some work done :p
 

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-:|Update - 2008-02-02|:-

Got started with the welding in the left rear wheelhouse :)
There is still some work left before the inner part of the wheelhouse is done.
There is no more an opening for the stock antenna ;)
I also did some more welding on the subframe. When thats done I will grind down and add
reinforcement plates there so I don't have to do that Later on in the project.

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Done!...or maybe not


Welded atleast :)


Left rear wheelhouse






No more stock antenna


Still need to do some work around the diff
 

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hey man great job on all of the work. I redid my supra the exact same way you are. mines still not quite done but its getting there. you know how it is, all of that rust repair takes its toll on you. check out www.por15.com from what I've read it seems to be one of the best rust preventer you can buy.

Here are a few quick pics of mine:



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Hey, thank you :)
So what did you decide on what to do with the arches?
Do you have a project thread somewhere?

I have seen por15, but I have never tried it myself. I have tried Hagmans epoxi primer. It's 2-comp. and I like it alot. On one of my cars I have a couple of places where I have painted with this paint and there is nothing ontop of it....no rust! and I painted it on during the summer in 2006. Since then I have painted almost everything with it.
The only problem with it is that it's yellow and my other car is white :) So it's white with yellow spots.
So I think I will continue with this primer since I like it and it's easy to buy.
 

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-:|Update - 2008-02-14|:-

I couldnt stay away from my supra anyomore, I had to visit it :p
The car I'm using has a bad C.V. joint and I can't repair it until I have
written the exam on thuesday. Luckily a friend who I share the garage with gave me a ride.

I continued working the undercarriage with the wire wheel and found some more rust that
I need to cut away. But to get to it I had to remove the fuel and brake lines.

Does anyone know the thickness of the beams that now are open on my car?
I forgot to take messurements while I was there.

While removing those I found that the replacing of the brake lines by the shop was not done
properly. They had spliced the line right after the engine bay.
When it's time to install the fuel and brake lines I will install brand new ones.

Later when I was tired and it was time to go home I tripped over a jackstand which jumped up
and hit the side skirt on my friends car :(
It was an accident but I will take care of it.


Pictures:

Found even more rust




Removed the fuel and brake lines






Finally managed to removed the elbow




Removed the ignition coils


Did some damage on my friends car by accident :(
 

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-:|Update - 2008-02-16|:-

Since I'm not made of money and enjoy fabrication I will fabricate as much as possible.

BUT! Im not here to compete with the vendors here, I'm only doing this for my own plessure.
If there is anyone on this side of the sea I might be able to an extra for you so that you
save money on shipping.


As you could see in my previous update, I removed the stock elbow.
Today I brought it to school where I made a copy of it with a copier which sent the image
to my mail. After I had downloaded it I opend it in Solid Edge and started making a virtual flange.
So far I have only done the outlines which you can see in dark blue.
When the drawing is done I will fabricate it in school out of mild steel.

I have also started with an modell of the engine in GT-Power.
No values are correct in it yet and there are some stuff missing.

I have not yet decided on what to do regarding subframe bushings.
There are 4 options:
1: Let the stock bushings sit and fabricate new spacers in aluminum
2: Fabricate solid bushings with built in spacers in aluminum
3: Fabricate soild bushings in aluminum and spacers in nylon or polyurethan
4: Facebicate a bushing where one half is in aluminum and the other in nylon or polyurethan
Any ideas?
This will be more of an track car that will be used alot on the streets, so maybe 90-95% race.
The bushings in the a-arms will be from Energy suspension since they are cheap and will have to do for now.



Pictures:

Stock elbow


Making a new turbo flange in Solid Edge


A virtual 7M-GTE with a disconnected IC, no turbo and no exhaust
 

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Any updates?
 

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sorry, almost forgot this thread, I have some updates that need posting ;)
stay put
 

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-:|Update - 2009-02-20|:-

AC/DC was playing today...and like other times when great bands are playing, I don't have tickets :(
But a couple of hours with the mill made me happy :)
I worked on the flange between the turbo and the DP, it's not done, but I'm getting there.
But I had some problems so I'm not sur if I'll use it.
The pen I used to do some markings with didnt work with the cutting fluid, so the cuttings are a bit of.
I might be able to use it since I will make a DDP... we'll see.

I forgot to take pictures :-/
 

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-:|Update - 2009-02-21|:-

Today I got tired on waiting for a decision (by me) regarding the fender edge,
so I bought a universal edge off a friend and started cutting/welding :)
It's not perfect, but the rust is gone ;)

The garage that my car is in, is called the Pokemon garage since there are only cars from
Japan in it. A garage friend who is a car painter did some paintings.
One with a pokemon on a turbo on the wall in the relax room and a pokemon logo on the bar counter.

Pictures:

Pokemon garage (pictures painted by BamBam)




The stock fender edge is gone


Did some welding


My new fender edge


Welded








I'm done welding around the diff


Who got the most empty energy drink cans on their roof? ;)


Some more pictures on the fender edge, can't see much


 

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-:|Update - 2009-03-02|:-

Bought some (read 18kg) aluminum today that will become my new front and rear
subframe bushings :)
I started right away with the smallest piece and did the upper bushings for the
front subframe. I will make the edgeds nicer later.


Pictures:

Bought some aluminum (the plate is for KTH Racing)


An idol pic


The upper bushings for the front subframe


 

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-:|Update - 2009-03-03|:-

Continued with the work on the bushings in the lathe today.
Since I'm not dead yet = still learning, the work did go a bit slow.
But I learned some stuff so the next ones will be a bit easier.
The radius is supposed to be 6mm, but I could only find 8mm, does anyone
know if it will work anyway? I don't have the front subframe off of the car
yet so I can't check on my own.


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One of the lower bushings for the front subframe