Centralia or Bust! ......Delilahs build

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Way too long of a project............unfortunately It has gone through just about every counter productive set of limitations there is:

Ample time to work on it ===============> minimal funds
Ample Time // moderate funds============> no access to a work location

and now

Ample (no such thing as truly enough) funds====> minimal time


Two steps forward one step back...................
Ordered a new rack from autozone. They had the PPS version in stock online, lifetime warranty + the best price after 20% coupon.

box showed up like this




After opening I could see they use very supportive packing:sarcasm:






The lines were beat up and clearly bent where they enter the flare fittings, the other one was worse. On top of this it looked like they hardly cleaned the rack had reassembled and then spray painted over everything, grease, rust and all. They also spray painted over the boots new boots.

I assumed lifetime warranty meant they would put some care into the re manufacture and not want a high replacement rate...............appears I miss judged their business model.

I returned it to one of their local stores and after some snarky comments received a refund. I have a genuine toyota rack seal kit on order and will be rebuilding it myself.
 
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Bought mine from Advance for a great price after online rebate. Mine was in slightly better shape.
Good call on rebuilding your self. Hey when you get a chance, pm me your address. I need to ship you out that console cover.
 

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wow that vatozone reman part so sweet lol. That sucks sir should have checked out rockauto.
Rock Auto does not have any PPS units in stock, the only option was shipping to cardone having them rebuild it and then send it back to me. It was also more expensive.

Rebuilding is the cheapest route anyway and based on my experience with other reman racks I will put much more care into it and end up with a better product when done. I also have a sand/soda blaster, a powerdercoating setup and a mean case of perfectionism so it will come out looking brand new :D.


Bought mine from Advance for a great price after online rebate. Mine was in slightly better shape.
Good call on rebuilding your self. Hey when you get a chance, pm me your address. I need to ship you out that console cover.
I checked advanced but they didn't have a good promo or rebate at the time. PM Sent.
 

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Re-sent, not sure what was up with it. Didn't see it in my outbox either.
 

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Been slacking on updates although I have slowly been making progress here and there. Finally was able to finish up putting up lighting and a few other things in the 4 post bay. Car is on the lift and blocked up, only getting one day a week after work to put towards the car atm.



I also started removing a few thing on the road to dropping the sub frame, tems, shock bolts, sway bar end-links, motor mounts. Unfortunately I could not find the 'key' to my gorilla lock lug nuts and had to order another. Not being able to get the wheels off halted progress a bit. Should be here any day so I can get rolling next time I make it out.

also had a few parts arrive



Next up:

Build brace to support engine
remove wheels, calipers, brake lines
drain ps
disconnect steering shaft
 
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Got some work done on the car before/after the Hawks game yesterday.

I threw this brake together for supporting the engine while I drop the sub frame. I had some old strut top mounts laying around which worked great.



I was able to get the motor to set up and give me about 3/4 of an inch on both mounts, so I should have no problem getting the sub frame back up.

Not much else to show but I received a replacement wheel lock key and removed the wheels, brake lines, calipers, rotors, steering shaft, cracked the upper/lower ball joint nuts and drained the ps fluid. The sub frame is ready to drop as soon as I figure out how to remove the abs sensors, I put some pressure on them and they did not want to move.




Going to try to get the subframe out later this week and begin the disassemble/cleaning process. Has anyone removed abs speed sensors before that can provide some insight?
 
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Realized my last couple pics didn't work, they should be fixed now.

Had a few more parts show up. Snagged a brand new fan shroud off the forums, thanks steveaw11!



Also had my rack rebuild kit show up along with new targa seals....for a rainy day.



Going to try to get some more work done this evening. Hoping I can figure the ABS sensors out, the tsrm is less that helpful.
 
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Made some progress last night. ABS sensor came out after hitting them with wd40 and twisting while making sure to only apply pressure to the metal bases. Also drained the ps fluid, removed the steering, shaft ps lines and misc other things that were still hooked up.


Finally was able to drop the front sub frame.





Pulled the rack to take home. Im going to media blast the exterior before disassembling it to keep contaminants out. I was hoping to also take the hubs homo degrease/prime+paint and the lower arms but the ball joints were being stubborn and it was late.



Lots of cleaning and prep work ahead. Also hoping my bushings from Ronnie show up by the time I am ready to put this back in, hes been MIA lately.
 
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All of your recent pics don't show up.
At least not for me.


(Once you fix this issue, I will be editing this post to say "Great work, looking good!")
 

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Did that fix it?

If not which ones are not showing, the last post or several?
 

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Ok, Hopefully all fixed? Been trying to link pics straight from google photos since my phone automatically uploads them but it is a pain.

Whats everyone else using for photos? I used to do photobucket but I hate having to add them just to embed them somewhere.


Also can anyone who checks out this thread comment if they are not able to see pics and mention the post(s) # for me.
 

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The slow but steady progress continues.

I was able to get the sub-frame out from under the car and stripped down. Seems like one of the common things I always see is people mentioning that you should always plan on purchasing new camber bolts and that its pretty common for them to have to be cut off. Mine came off easily with a quick hit with a rattle gun and and couple taps of a 2x4. They look great and had nearly zero corrosion. The Upper arm bolts were the same and the zinc/cad plating is nearly perfect.




Next step is to pressure wash the subrame and lower arms and pick up some gloss black epoxy paint. The bushings in the lower arms arent terrible but they do look their age. I am planning on pressing them out and ordering a set of whiteline poly bushings this week.

I was planning on just ordering new dorman uppers considering how cheap they are on rock auto. I have seen a few posts stating that the ball joint design on the aftermarket arms is inferior to toyota though, this has me wondering if I would be better off cleaning my arms along with pressing new bushings in and repacking the ball joint boots. hmmmm???????????
 
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I also sand blasted my rack and its ready for fresh paint and to start disassembling. And I brought home a box full of other parts to blast and paint or powder coat.




Took a pretty great ride up a local mountain the other day off work as well. Gotta soak up the gorgeous fall we get here before the temps drop too much. Thought it was worth sharing.





 
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There I went back and moved all of the pics for the last two pages to photobucket and re-embeded them. I'm done with trying to get google photos to work.

If anyone still cant see any of the pics let me know which ones. Thanks


Oh and not much new to report............did an initial cleaning on the hubs with a wire brush. Going to start on the swaybar links, camber bolts ect tonight hopefully. Little at a time.
 

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Pics are coming in now and everything looks great. I like the lift you have. I need one of those in my life. How tall is your garage or shot ceiling?
 

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Its my pops shop so I cant take much credit other than helping set a lot of it up. Mine is 20x24 with a 10 ft ceiling, his is 60x60 with.....18ft ceilings maybe, Thus why I chose to do it there despite having a 25 min commute.

He also has a 2 post lift in one of the front bays which would have actually been much easier to drop the sub frame but I knew this project would take a while and didn't want to tie up his main work bay.
 

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These lower control arm bushings will be the death of me.........
 

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Little progress, not much for pics though.

I was able to pressure wash and de-grease the subframe, lower arms and knuckles. I also managed to get all of the inner parts of the lCA bushings out so I am down to just the outer 'Sleeves'. I was successful in getting one out by cutting most of the way through with a saw'z'all and then going at it with a chisel. Took forever though. I think I will turn down a sleeve and give pressing them out a shot on the 60 ton press. I also cleaned and degreased the swaybar links, all the camber bolts and other misc stuff.

Still waiting on Subframe bushings Ronnie has a lot going on with getting married and is traveling. Also ordered the new whiteline LCA bushings and new uca bushings. The top of the subframe came out really nice and clean and the factory paint is in great shape. The bottom has quite a bit of tar/grease that even de-greaser and the pressure washer isn't cutting. I keep going back and forth on if I should just continue soaking/scubbing rinse and repeating and then touch up with some heavy duty paint. Or should I just have it sand blasted an powder coated...................If I decide to coat I have the secondary decision of paying $250 to have it done or putting that money into building a larger oven and doing it myself...................


Heading to Hawaii tomorrow morning for a much needed vacation so I will think on it while I'm there :D
 

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I have been slowly making some progress here and there, between taking a much over due vacation, a 8 day power outage and the ensuing amount of work that followed since I work for the Utility Company.

After battling the first LCA bushing with a sawzall and chisel I decided there is no way I was going through that hell again 3 more times.......

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I still put the sawzall to use cutting nearly through the outer sleeve of the bushings and folding the lip in.

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I then turned down a die and let the press do the rest of the work. Much quicker and less infuriating solution.
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So the LCA's are done just need to be sand blasted. Going to check to see if the machine shop here at work has a cabinet. I have a 'total loss' blasting gun I can shoot outside but I hate wasting all that media on anything other than very small parts. Then I can powdercoat them and press the new bushings in.

Aside from that just lots of cleaning/stripping on the rack, hubs, UCA's ect. Also still figuring out what to do on the front sub-frame. Way to big to put in my coating oven and quotes all came in around $250 to have a shop do it. Whatever they coated it with from the factory is pretty tough stuff and it good shape just takes alot of work to clean off the grease/tar/dirt and I will have to touch up a few scratches and chips with some paint.............I would like a fresh coating but I am struggling to justify the effort/cost when its in as good of shape as it is in.

I have a coating project I am doing on trade this week but I'm really itching to get this front end back together so I can work on some other part of the car....................Feels like there is so much left to do to get it on the road still. Hopefully I can find some time here any there waiting for items to cure ect to work on this.
 

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those bushings are a pain, good job.
Very much so, the first one took me 4+ hours of trying different approaches on it and then finally biting the bullet and going at it will a chisel. The other 3 probably took me 1 1/2 or so including turning down the piece of pipe to fit. Definitely a worth while time investment.

Not much work on the Sup is going to get done this week. This coating work is really taking some time.

I did get a package from Kiwi-Land the other day though! Worth the wait, Thanks Ronnie!

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I also have a few more goodies on the way to look forward to..........
 

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Not much progress sadly but parts continue to roll in....................... the Coating work has really been eating up all of my time but I am hopefully wrapping up the last of it this week. Probably the last job I will do for a while as I don't have time to work on my own projects let alone someone else's. I have been throwing a few of my own parts in between though so I will post pics once completely finished.

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Finally managed to track one down, I have been wanting to relocate and free up some space for a very long time.

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Also with the Holidays family time has taken priority as it should. I hope everyone had a great Christmas. This year was my daughters first time sledding..........she absolutely loved it and had no issues with going down the inlaws 1/4 mile driveway with me. She is definitely going to be a dare devil like Dad.

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Info on the charcoal canister? I have been looking for some small canister to free up the space for other use as well.

My friend who is automotive engineer told me that the toyotas fuel vapor system in mk3 supra needs to have the canister in warm/hot place so it would work the best possible way. For me it's enough that the car does not smell gas so that is why I dont want to delete the system completely.

Small press hepls alot when replacing the bushings.
 

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^^^ Super top secret, Newer Ducati's use an identical charcoal canister to the JZA70 and actually have a better mount for relocating. Check ebay, mine was a brand new take off a undriven bike and cost <20 shipped. :D

Few updates, finally got the majority of my powdercoating parts out the door for my customer. It will likely be the last job I do for quite some time as I just dont have time between a day job, family and my own projects with are already neglected.

Anyway they came out quite good considering the state they were in when handed to me.

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I also was able to coat a few parts for Delilah since I already was setup. A few Progression shots of one of the pieces I did:

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Neat Charcoal Can find! Can i delete mine and run a vacuum line to the valve?
 

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I would search the charcoal can delete threads on this site, here is one I saved but there are few others with good discussion http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?125396-My-stealth-charcoal-canister-install-*PICS*

I decided against removing it and searched forever for a smaller replacement to relocate. The check valve in the canister maintains 2 or so psi in the fuel tank which assists the fuel pump, also without it you may get some fuel fumes when the car sits. Many will say "I removed it and haven't had any issues" - read up a bit and then you will have to make the call whats best for you and what you want for the car.
 

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Slow but steady progress, working on my customers wheels now which are the last pieces I am coating. Also working on stripping the LCA's, cleaning up the hubs for paint and straightening up my workspace a bit before I tear into the rack.

Also picked this up the other day for a new daily. Very different from the supra but quite fun to drive in its own way.

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Already had the matching carseat for the kiddo :naughty:

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So you can see what it takes to put the front calipers from the Evo on the supra now lol. I like the feel of my Evo brakes just never have time to see what it would take to make them fit on the supra
 

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I was actually staring at them and thinking that just the other day. I'm not sure its worth the effort with the discovery of the mercedes calipers but I will still probably take measurements someday anyway. :)
 

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I was hoping progress would pick up quicker than this but..........life

Here are the last few shots of that powdercoating job I did, so glad to be finished with it and to be able to direct what limited free time I have to my own projects from here on out.

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All in all I think it came out pretty good considering the state they came to me in. The owner rides his bike hard and year round, even in winter whenever the snow is mostly off the roads. I also usually require that everything be at stripped and or blasted before I take it in because I am just not equipped to do anything other than small parts. I broke that rule this time and really regretted it after the huge amount of time the prep took.

Anyway on to new things. I also made it out to a small breakfast meet for the local evo owners group. Its a fun daily to me and not my 'baby' like many of the other owners but it was fun no less to get out and meet some new people. Not much of a supra group here anymore and I really miss having others around that share my interests and who will get together for some wrenching.

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Updated should start rolling.......I mean it this time haha
 

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Bit of progress, rack is cleaned, stripped and disassembled. Now onto cleaning every little crevice inside and out and waiting on some more supplies to show up. Even though you cant see the rack when its in the car I have some plans in store for cleaning this up.

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Also debating on what to do on my hubs..............swap wheel bearing just because they are out?
 

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Nothing too exciting this weekend, did a full fluid change on the Evo. Oil/trans/xcase/diff, I was tired of the trans being a temperamental b!tch until warmed up. Its very utilitarian like the 154, strong enough for some solid power but shifts a bit like a farm truck. Anyway I looked under the car when I brought it home on the extended test drive but this was the first time getting it in the air. This is what loud looks like.....

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Also did some work on the supra but nothing really pic worthy. I finished pulling the remaining oil seals and bearings from the ps rack. Pressed the old bushings our of the upper arms and pulled/cleaned the boots and removed all the old grease. I also sand blasted a few misc things like the front subframe cross bar and rack mounting brackets. I landed a new commercial oven a few weeks ago and should have the parts today along with more powder and supplies. Excited to be able to run things through in real batches for a change.
 

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Made some progress over the weekend, not a ton to show for it but I finished stripping this batch of parts. Lower control arms are ready for coating and new bushings and ball joints
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Upper arms are cleaned and ready for clear coat. Then they are ready for new bushings and new boots with fresh grease.
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I also finished cleaning and rewiring the new oven I picked up for 220. Took it for a test cycle and was very pleased with the heating time. Took about half the time to reach temp despite being 5x the size of my old one. I am going to try to do a final prep and pre-heat all the parts in the next couple of days. I am taking a week off whenever my wife has our baby which could be any day now so I am queuing up some work for that.
 

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I finished up rewiring the new oven I picked up and installed some tracks to roll parts in and out. Not really supra related but it allowed me to do my next batch of parts in one shot which was so much quicker

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Did the first batch of parts in it a few days later. I primered my Lower Control Arms, powers stearing rack and some other misc pieces. I'm going to try to shoot them with color coat in the next couple days.

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Still a long way to go.
 

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Wow year and a half plus since I have updated this thread? Need to get my shit together.

It's been a busy year, had my second child in March of last year, coincidentally about the time of my last update. Funny how that works. Bought and sold a house....... in that order, which I do not recommend.

It has been fantastic though, out of the city a bit, much more space for the family and a 3 car garage and 1.25 acre lot for a future shop for the 'girls'. I have made progress on Delilah but not as much as I would like. The move put things on hold for several months and then again due to a major project at work for the last 6 months.

In anycase shooting for finishing up the front end and rolling her home for bodywork reassembly before the snow hits. Going to be close.

Also another change is coming soon....

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