Centralia or Bust! ......Delilahs build

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Actually quite a few things which just happen to share common required disassembling.

1. Replace b pillar louvers (snapped ds one off washing it right before Centralia last year)
2. Upgrade fuel pump wiring to 12 gauge and install MKIV pump
3. Remove all body and window trim to touch up paint job

Started out just planning to do the fp, but I wanted to run it with the stock wiring which goes through the interior. I also wanted to replace the B pillars which requires taking out the b pillar interior paneling which is overlapped by the pannels beside the rear seat which ...... so naturally its smart to do both at once and remove the interior only once. I have also wanted to touch up the paint since I got the car, also requires rear interior out so might as well do it.

4. while Im at it, replace wing and tail light gaskets
5. Remove reflective paint from taillight center section.
6. Clean everything.
7. Im also contemplating doing a battery relocation but haven't decided yet.
8. I know I will think of something while Im at it.... maybe put my 6.5 pods in the front?

So thats the progression of my thinking to get to this point,

Oh and I guess ACT is dropping the ball and every supra clutch they make has been on back order for the last month and a half with no estimated ship time
 

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Looking good. I would highly recommend just getting high quality 5-1/4" speakers in the front. In order to do it right it will take a ridiculous amount of work (unless someone is selling some sort of kit I'm unaware of). Hopefully this will get me motivated soon lol.
 

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Wow you actually did something productive with the long weekend. It looks good man, when i get back to the pullman area i'll be able to go up and help ya out with nething ya need
 

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Got a couple days off and have made some progress but I have been slacking on pics. Here the last I took. I got the spoiler off, check out all the shit that has accumulated under there. Also pulled her out and gave her a good wash.

Luise, let me know if your ever heading up or want to, plenty to help with and your always welcome to crash in the spare bedroom at our new place. Once I get to the fuel upgrades we will have to do some more tuning so I will definitely let you know when I get there. Its too tedious with only one person
 

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Not an exciting update by any means but got all the dirt washed off and some more things stripped. Im working the next 8 days and then am going on a week vacation so I see many a late night in my future if I want to make it to nationals. More to come (hopefully soon)
 

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Sadly Delilah wont be making the trip to Pac NW Nationals this year. I decided its not worth rushing things and risking the final outcome to make it. Even if I had put in a few all nighters and got it into the booth the paint wouldnt have enough time to cure before the trip and I would risk chips from rocks or even bugs.

Started Wet sanding though and even got the wife into the garage to help :love:
 

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No exciting progress to report, just many long hours of uneventful wet sanding. I did a little body work today. I had a very small ding right in my line of site on the hood that has always bugged me. I think the previous owner tried to shut the hood with a tool left sticking out and raised the edge a bit. After tapping it out I had a small dimple probably only a few thou but enough to reflect light, a bit of filler and primer fixed it right up. My goal is to finish wet sanding the entire car tomorrow so hopefully I can start shooting some base color on Tuesday. Then off to Camano island for a few days before heading up to Pac NW Nationals. Should be ready to go into the booth within the week once I get back
 

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So I coerced my wife to help me get the car ready and push it out and wash it while I was at work today. I forgot it had no outside handles for her to open it and take off the e-brake. I described the arm that attaches to the lock mechanism and instructed her to push it down. She said it went down but the door didnt open. She finally got it but I just got home and took a look and she bent the rod :(. I have a spare and I know she was just trying to help so no big deal, but I cant figure out how to get the damn thing off! Can anyone please describe how to get it out
 

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Ya she gets a little wild ;)

Im also having trouble getting the drip molding off the targa and front pillars, anyone done it? The TSRM shows a special tool, is there something else that works?
 

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Thanks ron, that helps alot with the targa section, got another one for the front windshield pillars :D
 

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Update

Shes dropped off at the painters tomorrow!

I was able to get quite a bit done today. I finished up the body work, washed the whole car with TSP then detergent and finally hit it with wax and grease remover. Also started taping off the glass
 

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I got quite a bit done on my day off (monday) but still wasn't able to get it down to the paint shop. I had the car set to leave and it wouldn't start. The battery was dead but after a quick charge it was obvious that wasn't the issue. After a start to finish testing of my starting circuit, I found there is a short in my harness between the starter relay and the starter. My best guess is in the engine harness, I have been suspect of it since the last time I had the head off. I decided to bypass the entire thing with a start button just to get the car there. I see a custom wiring harness in my near future.

Heres the front end taped up for base coat and my dad doing a little degreasing



The front end after basecoat, looking good without silver



Shooting the trim grooves



Extra Bits



Spoiler sides



Basing out a little body work



A little finishing wet sanding



All based out




Finally was able to drop the car off on Wednesday still waiting to hear back, more pics to come
 
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Man Ryan.....I kinda like the Flat Red look......!

Nice work!

How come you and your dad aren't painting it?
 

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Good job on the base coat. When getting a paint job is it necessary to remove all moldings, etc? I need some body work and a paint job and was wondering if the shop would require that done before hand.

Keep up the good work.
 

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For a good paint job, yes. Otherwise, you have "build up". Build up is basically an "edge" or a "ledge" and looks baaaaaaaaad. It looks like poop to be exact! Your paint will also start to flake off in no time...

Ryan will likely have a better answer; but, there's mine. ;)
 

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Good to know. I think the previous owner didn't have everything removed. I can see over spray on many parts of the bumpers.
 

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Ya it can be done without removing everything but if your going to put all the work in you might as well do it right. The original owner not having everything removed the first time is the reason I am doing this again now, and the project just keeps expanding. It started as me shooting and clearing all the silver areas, then I decided to base all those areas out and have the whole car cleared, then I decided to work on a few dings and blemishes, and finally we decided it was best to shoot the whole car because the risk for blending lines were just too high.

Ken, me and my dad would have shot it completely ourselves but work schedule up till I go back to school gives me no days off and my buddies at the shop offered to shoot it for a few six packs more than having me do it in their booth. Im comfortable with painting but I know they can do it faster and better than me anyways. Did you come to a conclusion on your wheels dilemma???

Oh and by the way its done and in the garage curing Im just behind on pics, working on getting some up now.
 

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The most recent set of pictures (after paint) I have are on my wifes camera so I will have to wait and put those up later.




Me and my dad taping the car off outside the shop






Taping inside the hatch wasnt the most enjoyable thing I have ever done!






all done






My dad Kicking my ass for suckering 3 days of labor out of him, with no overtime pay.....or any pay for that matter lol






The car sitting in the shop to cool overnight before going into the booth in the morning


 

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Ok I finally got the pictures off my wifes camera

The lighting and flash makes the color look incredibly bright. Its actually slightly darker than it was before
and with a little heavier metalic. The pictures also look like they make the cae have a pink tone to it which
is also not the case.

So here it is the day after being shot and baked in the oven over night.







This one looks the closest to the actual color in person but still looks light and has a sort of pink hue.



Ill get more pics up when I can. Work the next few days will keep me from running over and working on anything on the car.
Im going to let it sit and cure for a good week before I give it a cut and buff. Im also heading back down to school in just
over a week so hopefully I can still get it back together at a decent pace.

Im currently going throught all the harness plugs and figuring out exactly how they perform and if they are going to be needed with my
setup down the road. Ill post some info I have gathered tomorrow and will need some input. Anyone reading this who is running an FFIM
please check back Ill have some questions.
 

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did some work on A supra today... not mine though

Me and my bro finally decided to fab up the missing sections of his piping today and install his 3" intercooler. He has been running half of a lipp IC pipe set for quite a while. He had the 3000 pipe replacement and the turbo to IC pipe but the rest was a jumble of stock and aircraft ducting lol.




I'd say it came out pretty good for a quick project before I headed to work

I have also been gathering info on the wiring harness and sensors in preparation for building a new one this winter. I have wanted to build a new harness with mil-spec connectors at the firewall for easy engine removal, remove what I can and that incorporates the maft pro harness. Here are my thoughts, looking for some input

Red = I think it COULD be removed, not yet sure what sure should be yet
Blue = comments

this list corresponds to these pics put up by 92teal




HOT SIDE

1. Cold Start Injector Plug---Remove with FFIM need input from those running them?
2. O2 Sensor Plug
3. Cam Position Sensor Plug
4. ECU Coolant Sensor Plug
5. Radiator Cooling Fan Sensor Switch Plug-- makes contact >234 off <225
6. A/C Coolant Sensor Switch Plug-----What does it do, condenser fan? on >212 off <203
7. (Air Flow Meter Plug)------Remove
8. Instrument Cluster Coolant Temp Gauge Plug
9. Oil Pressure Plug
10. From headlight relay, it has been Unknown, but I found it, but I don't see where it plugs in.

COLD SIDE

1. Check Connector
2. Ignition Resistor Plug
3. Resistor Plug on body ( Rectangle shape )
4. C1 Plug located next to the fuse box
5. Igniter Plug
6. Igniter Plug
7. Progressive Power Steering Plug
8. #1 Knock Sensor Plug
9. #1 VSV---Opens briefely at hot start to increase fuel pressure (Is this needed with FFIM)
10. Idle Air control Plug
11. Fuel Injector #1 Plug
12. Coil Plug
13. Fuel Injector #2 Plug
14. Cold Start Injector Plug-----Remove with FFIM?
15. Fuel Injector #3 Plug
16. Fuel Injector #4 Plug
17. Throttle Position Sensor Plug
18. Fuel Injector #6 Plug
19. Fuel Injector # 5 Plug
20. (Blank)-------Remove
21. Start Solenoid Plug
22. Manual Transmission Reverse Light Plug
23. Ground under Intake Manifold
24. ABS Plug for Manual Tranmission
25. #2 VSV------- EGR, controls when the egr opens and recirculates combustion gasses(to remove egr or not to hmmm)
26.#2 Knock Sensor Plug
27. Horn Plug

my main questions are;

1. Whether most run the cold start injector with an FFIM?
2. I have a JDM ecu so I could ditch the egr but is it worth the slight temp increase in cylinder 6, Im on the fence.
3. Is the AC temp switch for the condenser fan? do they even have them on 89+? Mine never has
4. If the AC switch is even needed, could it and aux fan temp switches be tied together so the fans kick on at a lower temp?
5. does anyone with an FFIM and AFPR run the fuel pump vsv?

Thanks for the compliments guys, Ill try to get more pics up in natural light before I go back
 

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Nearly 5 years............ time to get this build going again!

Alot has changed since 2010 but unfortunately not much withe the Supra. I graduated from college, got a real job, bought a house, remodeled entire said house, changed jobs and had my amazing daughter. Not a bad 5 years at all.

The downside is I didn't have much time to even think about the supra. It sat parked in my dad's shop under a cover still stripped in its post paint condition for a couple years. I have a 20x24 garage at my place so I trailered it there after getting settled in and it sat again. Eventually I got slightly motivated and pulled the wiring harness and took it down for a full rebuild. I replaced any brittle or damaged wires all the way from the ecu plug and put new connectors wherever needed. I was about 80% done but needed some larger shrink wrap for the ecu end and then life got busy again.

Finally this spring I saw a nice supra on my way home from work and decided it was time..........pics in a few
 
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Here is the harness finally completed, hoping it fixes my hot start issue.

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And we took the little Monster to the lake and out on the boat this week.
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This little toy hasn't helped much with the motivation to work on the supra during the summer either the past couple seasons.
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Happy 4th everyone! Be safe.
 

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Thanks I deffinately can't complain! Now I just need a little supra progress......

Managed to pull everything out to see where I'm at. Lots of work ahead. I would like to get the harness back in and get it running before starting on the body. I need to confirm that the hot start issue was resolved by the harness and then maybe install the new fuel system. Utill I cut and polish the car I don't have to be too worried about minor dust scratching or anything.

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I have been making some progress despite work hours being a bit crazy lately.

The car is fully cleaned out






Also IT RUNS, I was able to get the harness and everything else that goes with it back together. This is the first start up in 5 years. I let it run for about half an hour to get fully up to temp. No hot start issues no matter how many times I tried so it appears the harness really was the culprit

https://www.youtube.com/embed/aafIgfj4vNc

Next step is to start wetsanding before hitting it with compound and polish. Also have a long list of new bits I need to order up from toyota. anyone know how to embed youtube videos? [youtube][/youtube] and the provided embed code both do not seem to work
 
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Smallish update:

Flushed the ps system and pulled the res to clean it out as I suspected that the screen was plugged again. That resolved the ps whine that you can hear in the video.

I decided I really would like to get all of the mechanical to-do items buttoned up before working on putting the exterior back together. Until I level and hit the car with Compound+Polish I don't have to be as concerned with minor dust scratches ect so its better to be leaning over it and working around it now vs after.

First task is to go through the fuel system. I have an Aeromotive AFPR+ New MKIV fuel pump along with lines/filter ect that has been sitting since before I painted the car. I would like all this in so I can feel good about really dialing in the tune and pushing the fresh 440's to their true potential.

Before tearing all this down I would like to be sure that my hot start issues are completely resolved so I put the tails/turns back on over the weekend an am going to take it out for a short cruise tonight to get to full op temp to verify. My motivations may also be that I haven't been behind the wheel of Delilah in 5 years...........

wish me luck, tool bag will be coming along just in case.
 

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Took her for the first spin in 5 years last night..............And it was fantastic. My 20 minute drive ended up being nearly 1 1/2 hours. :D

Had a small amount of fuel still in the tank (5 years old:thumbdown) Probably should have drained it but it was really close to E so I just put about 3/4 of a tank of premium in. I also dialed back the tune to barely pushing stock boost and didn't go wide open just to be cautious of how well everything is still dialed in after this long.

All in all I forgot how exceptional this car is to drive, even being rattly with most of the interior out, No AC and not being able to roll down the windows and on basically stock power is is fantastic. Who needs rear windows, mirrors or door handles anyway?! I stuck to a secluded backroads trip along the Spokane river to avoid any unwanted attention. Most of the trip was filled with tight enough corners that the 7M's low end torque was enough to push the car without even building much if any positive pressure.





Wife was a little ticked when I got back but all in all a great drive after a very long day at work. Best part was NO issues upon Hot starting several times throughout the trip and off and on for an hour after getting home.

Now that I am confident that issue is resolved back to my build plan and actual progress. Unfortunately I did discover that my passenger side rack boot has a tear and that side was leaking fluid pretty heavily. This bumps up to the top of the priority list so fuel will have to wait a bit.

Next Mini 'Build Project' - Rebuild the entire front end

1. Replace:

  • PS Rack
    PS Rack Bushings - Poly (Ronnie)
    PS Hoses
    Lower Ball Joints (Due for a while)
    Tie Rod Ends
    Upper and Lower Control Arm Bushings (unsure if I want poly for ride, potentially energy/ronnie)
    Front Sub Frame Bushings (Ronnie)
2. Install rack spacers while I'm in there
3. Flush PS system, install magnefine filter and re-fill
4. Clean/Coat EVERYTHING while I am in there.

I had wanted to do a suspension overhaul/build next winter but I will just get this part I of that out of the way now.

More Parts and Progress to Come - Going to have to get this done before I have to worry about weather
 

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Going to run the car out to my fathers place tonight in preparation for tearing the front end down. Have parts on order so aside from Ronnie's stuff which has to come from New Zealand its more a question of how much time I can allocate to the project.

Doing the work at my fathers place means I will only get to work on it 1-2 days a week as he lives about 35 min away. He has both a 2 and 4 post lift in his shop though so I decided that convenience outweighs doing it on my garage floor and being able to work on it anytime. He is just putting in a new garage door and lights in the bay I will likely use, so unfortunately doubt I will make any real progress tonight. Hoping to at least get the bay ready and pull the car in so I can jump into it next time I head out.