Bolt on Big Brake Kit For around 300$.

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when you buy the wheel spacers are you having any trouble mounting them cause when i mount the rotor with with the hubcentric ring it sticks out a bit and theres little space left on the hub, or is there enough room on the back of the spacer to mount flush on the rotor. Also which brand is good quality to run, plan on going 20mil on my mkiv tt wheels? ebay ones are cheap at bout $45 but im questionable on quality even though they claim "good quality"
i got wheel spacers off amazon. they were 12mm aluminum hub centric ones. just a chunk of metal though not the kind where they have studs on them. i got them for 67mm hub cause i figured the ring on the rotor would be in the way for 60mm ones. you could shave the rotor ring down to where they're flush with the face of the rotor to fit 60mm spacers. i also had to get 67mm to 73mm rings for my wheels hahahaa. its sorta janky but its working fine been on there for a while now. will prolly get wheel that fit better in the future but for now it works :biglaugh:
 

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Guys

I saw a video last night off facebook and mk3 owner mentioned in the video he used benz calipers with 350Z Touring Rotors. Can someone confirm if this will work, does it require hub rings, is it 13 inch and and how is it sitting on the caliper.

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I have a feeling that MKIV TT rotors might work. can anyone confirm?
 

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Guys

I saw a video last night off facebook and mk3 owner mentioned in the video he used benz calipers with 350 Touring Calipers. Can someone confirm if this will work, does it require hub rings, is it 13 inch and and how is it sitting on the caliper.

Thanks
Did you read the first post of this thread??
 

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Have any of you guys run a performance pad with this upgrade? i track race my supra and wondering if i can get a performance enough pad for this upgrade

Currently i have nissan 4piston calipers on there with mk4 323mm rotors with EBC red stuff pads

But im not happy with the current setup as with the adapter plate it means many wheels wont fit, This upgrade Mercedes is better
 

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You can get any ebc pad for them. Red stuff yellow stuff.
 

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Hello

i'm trying today to mount the kit, but i have an issue.

I'm using this model,



But the rotor of 32mm don't enter inside the caliper. The space inside the caliper is 31mm. Normally for 28mm rotor.

Can I remove the 2 mm bothers me (these are the tip of internal fixation of the 3 parts of the brackets )

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I have the clearance for new brake pad with 32mm rotor.

I can't bolt the calipers, because 330 rotor is too big

Anyone has the same problem ?

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you will have to use 350z rotor or get different calipers. these are for the newer 2003+ s-series and some e-class and cla Mercedes. wont work with 32mmx 330mm
 

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Page 16 is write that my model is good, but it's not the case.

Ref 20.7047.04 4 is different of 20.7047.04 7...

Anyone can confirm me that 20.7047.04 4 is the good model ?

Thanks.
 

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So the image above is the later model caliper designed for the smaller rotor? and the earlier model one with the longer mounting tabs is the "better" one to get? with
the ability to run the 330mm disk?
 

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The one you have is not from an s class. Needs to be from a 220 chassis s class s430 or s500.

That is for a 28mm rotor and is only around 280mm.
 

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Dam, so that means I've ordered the wrong type.

Right so the 220 s-class s430 s500
have the usually black calipers with the big mounting tabs on them, then you can run the 330 mm. Right?

So the ones I've ordered, same as a few posts above will still bolt on but just fit a 28 mm 280 mm rotor

Thanks!
 

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figure I'll share mine. got the calipers for about 70 shipped. rotors were about 130. new seals and boots were 25. new braided lines were 54. new washers were 17 for qty10. powder coat was about 100. silver matalic with clear. and just threw on 8 dollar brembo decals. hub centrics were 12. see pics.

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That looks really nice.

What are the specs on the wheels and how much clearance do you have to the caliper?
 

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how do you like the ebc red pads? i got the porterfield r4s for mine and they're great pads can handle lots of heat and have decent initial bite but holly crap do they make dust! it wipes off easy but its a little intense how fast my front wheels get dirty. have the same pads on the back but they don't through off as much dust cause they're smaller and do less of the braking i'm guessing. figured id through that out there cause i didn't mention it in my earlier post.
 

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I got my set up going good and stopping power is much better. My only peeve is i get brake squeal early in the day for a few feet but great after that, i have the slotted powerstop and ceramic pads also which i thought shouldnt squeal this early. Did anyone else run into this? And yes i did grease the calipers where the pads slide on as well as the pins.
 

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What kind of pads and did you break them in?

Cheap pads squeal easily even ceramic.

The red stuff are better than the porterfields. Brake dust might even be worse. I removed front and rear red stuff and put factory pads because I got tired of cleaning them.
 

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i got powerstop ceramic pads. the breakin I do is highway speed to about 30mph with moderate pedal about 5 to 7 times
 

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i got powerstop ceramic pads. the breakin I do is highway speed to about 30mph with moderate pedal about 5 to 7 times
those are autozone pads or something. not really high quality so noise will be a problem.
 

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I got my set up going good and stopping power is much better. My only peeve is i get brake squeal early in the day for a few feet but great after that, i have the slotted powerstop and ceramic pads also which i thought shouldnt squeal this early. Did anyone else run into this? And yes i did grease the calipers where the pads slide on as well as the pins.
on a scale from 1-10 (1 being not much and 10 being mind blowing) how much do you think it increased from the stock brakes?

I have slotted rotors with ebc green stuff and I'm pretty content with my system if it was anywhere near the arizona bbk than I might opt for this instead
 

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those are autozone pads or something. not really high quality so noise will be a problem.
Really? I thought autozone was its own thing as i have used autozone gold ceramic pads on other cars and have never had a problem. Ive never used powerstop i just saw them when on rockauto when i was getting the brake setup and thought the ceramic would work well. Ive seen ceramic wagners squeal as well which is why i didnt go with those. I just assumed all ceramic material pads would work great. Which pads did u go with? I see beck/arnley and centric offer OE material which im not sure what it is i just know metallic or semi metallic squeal like a pig all the time
 

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Stock mercedes pads or ebc would be my vote. The stock mercedes pads are very good and rarely squeak or squeal. My kit ended up on my buddy's car with the pads that came with the calipers since they were like new. They wor perfectly even after brake boosting with over 600hp.

Not all pads are created equal. Even Toyota sells a cheap ceramic pad. There junk tho. Major issues with noise. The oem pads destroy them but are double the price.
 

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Ahh i see then. Ill have to contact my buddy at mercedes then, but would they leave alot of brake dust like the ebc's? Never used them, ive just read they shower your rims with brake dust
 

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Any good pad will be heavy with brake dust. The mercedes pads are not as bad as ebc
 

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No that this is relative, but I got the CobraR calipers to work as well. It's a bit more expensive but I was curious to see the comparison. I will say, there is a quite big difference in unsprung weight as they are 100% aluminum. Got them powdercoated the same time I did the MERC brakes. I used the 13" Cobra rotors. If anyone is curious I can give details for how to modify the caliper to fit. I'll be doing a full comparison. Im just waiting to do the ABS delete on the other car with the cobraR brakes. I'll be using HAWK HPS pads though.

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What exact caliper is needed, as there seem to be a few variations...

This style is listed as 00-02 S430:


However, this is also listed as 00-02 S430 with different mounting tabs:


Which style have people been using?
I have been asking around at local junkyards for these calipers and they all keep asking date of production. After some research there is a pre Production (12-3-2001) and post production (12-4-2001). Does any one know which set goes with which production date?

What are the differences between the the pre and post production date if the ones pictured above are not correct.


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You need the top ones which should be the same as the s500. The lower ones are for a base model with smaller rotors.
 

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why you didn't just use what hvyman recommended and other member added to make them work as he intended i have no clue.

1. centering rotors off the lugs is going to leave the rotor not centered at all causing vibration and crappy braking cause rotor will be too far out ward then on the opposite side sit to far inward.
2. using that smaller rotor with those calipers im almost positive you have a ton of pad over hang. not good.
3. one side different from the other should ring a bell something isn't right.
4. i hope you used some high grade washers and bolts or you risk the bolts loosing torque or snapping. i used old 7m head stud washers worked great only had to use one per bolt and bolts HAVE to be grade 10.9 or higher.
5. stock brake lines works fine i have the goodridge braided lines and it worked also.
6. and um no they wont work on any car that has a cobra kit for it. they have the same pattern as a mk3 not a cobra. thats why you need a bracket to fit cobra calipers. so if any cars have a bracket to fit a mk3 caliper then they would bolt to that but we all know nobody is swapping to our crappy stock brakes.

like really you shouldn't be making videos where you are going to get people that don't know better to do things to their car that can kill them.....
 
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