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If "Christians" were out strapping on bombs, setting up ied's and doing them in the name of Jesus, I'd be appalled, and speak out, and turn them in to authorities, or that is not possible, shoot the bastards myself. (How long would the insurgents in Iraq last without the support of Islam, and the tacit support of the people in Iraq? About 20 seconds.)
Abortion clinic bombers? There are some who do that and claim in it in the name of god. Of course there are many other Christian people who condemn them and say they're the nuts giving religion a bad name, yet at the same time, there's some Christians who join whatever church those bombers came from because they don't like those clinics.

Since 1977, casualties from this war include seven murders, 17 attempted murders, three kidnappings, 152 assaults, 305 completed or attempted bombings and arsons, 375 invasions, 482 stalking incidents, 380 death threats, 618 bomb threats, 100 acid attacks, and 1,254 acts of vandalism, according to the National Abortion Federation.

Abortion providers and activists received 77 letters threatening anthrax attacks before 9/11, yet the media never considered anthrax threats as terrorism until after 9/11, when such letters were delivered to journalists and members of Congress.

After 9/11, Planned Parenthood and other abortion rights groups received 554 envelopes containing white powder and messages like: "You have been exposed to anthrax. ... We are going to kill all of you." They were signed by the Army of God, a group that hosts Scripture-filled web pages for "Anti-Abortion Heroes of the Faith," including minister Paul Hill, Michael Griffin and James Kopp, all convicted of murdering abortion providers, and a convicted clinic bomber, the Rev. Michael Bray. Another of their "martyrs," Clayton Waagner, mailed anthrax letters while a fugitive on the FBI's 10 most wanted list for anti-abortion related crimes.
 

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You notice that in this country, when there is an abortion bombing, the FBI generally arrests, tries and convicts the bombers.

The crazy asses who join up with churches who support this stuff need to be infiltrated by the FBI, and then anyone doing this shit should be thrown in jail, or executed. (Executed would be better IMHO, but this is the USA remember, and we don't do that kind of thing here..)

If your a bomber in Palestine, they build you a shrine, sing your praises in the Mosqe and make you a national hero.

If you go off to fight the Jihad, your a hero.

Mainstream Christians DO NOT SUPPORT this type of behavior.

Mainstream Islam DOES SUPPORT TERRORISM.

I have yet to see any abortion clinics leveled by someone flying a loaded jumbo jet into them.

I don't see abortion clinic bombers having rallies where tens of thousands of people stand and chant down with the USA, and in the same rally, the leader talks of nukes, destroying Israel and the USA while his covert army stages attacks from Lebanon into Israel. And where is Islam while this is going on? Oh yeah, that government, IRAN is a Islamic law country, supported by Islam all over the world, and admired by the majority of Islamic people for standing up to the USA and other Western powers.

Us v/s Them. I'm not the guy that started this whole problem, that was Jimmy Carter when he failed to support the Shaw, and keep Iran our ally in 1978. When Islam took over, the world started down this path again to another religious war.

We can dance around it for another 10 years, or we can deal with it now. It will be much harder to resolve in 10 years than it will now, but this country does not have the balls, or forsight to deal with it now, so we will all suffer more when we HAVE to deal with it. (Islam is not going to go away, and the power of the "radical" side of it is growing every day because we are not killing the radical side of it effectively.)
 

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Oh, BTW, you guys are going to love Islamic rule. (When it arrives here in about 2016... LOL)

Here is the future. We are ruled by an ever growing socialist party. They tax the rich, give to the poor, and allow the illegals to come in willy nilly, and then sign them up as voters, socialist voters of course...

The national thought is a very PC "why do our enemies hate us, and what can we do to get them to accept us?" We as a nation decide it would be best to just allow the USA to become a Caliphate in the world of Islam, and not risk killing our troops in a war with a nuclear power like Iran (AKA, World Islam.) ** Besides, since national health care and global welfare were introduced, we have cut the military back to strike forces, so we could not fight to defend ourselves if we wanted to.**

The ULLE's rejoice since the thought of global pollution from war is unacceptable, it might poison fish, or kill trees, and think of the insects slaughtered!

So, welcome to your new USA, Caliphate of the WIG. (World Islam Government.)

You get to have 6 wives now.

You can beat them if they don't keep you happy, and you can get a divorce just by saying "I divorce thee" 3 times.

You get to pray 5 times a day. (If you don't go, the Mutaween come by and smack you around with rifles and sticks and ask you to attend prayer.)

Your women get to wear the Abaya or Chador. (Large black triangle of cloth that covers up everything but their eyes.)

No more rated PG-13 movies. Or anything else for that matter. Sex is taboo in ways you can't even imagine. Just the sight of female skin or hair is too much for men to handle. (What are those whores thinking!!!)

Commit adultry, and you get your head chopped off.

Women generaly get stoned. (They make the woman kneel in a field, and then dump a load of football sized rocks over her. End of punishment.)

If you steel, and are violent or a repeat offender, they chop off your right hand at the wrist. (Since there is no longer a need for toilet paper as you use your left hand to wipe now, this becomes a problem for personal hygine as you can imagine.)

There is no social dating before marriage, All marriages are arranged about age 6 for girls, and they are married to their husband when they are 15 or 16 at the latest.

Education for women past the basics is a waste of time and energy, so it's not supported by the government. If you want to educate your women, you need to do it yourself.

Think this is crazy?
This is NORMAL life in mainstream Islamic countries like Iran and Saudi. Two places I've lived, and watched this type of lifestyle on a daily basis.
 

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Commit adultery, and you get your head chopped off.
You are 100% right in every instance but this one. Truth be told, if you rape a woman she must have 4 male witnesses to the rape before you are prosecuted. If she doesn't get 4 witnesses then she is killed for being a slut.

Here are some more things:

If you don't convert to Islam you must pay a heavy tax which is taken from you as muslims slap your face and beat you up. You must wear different clothes and badges to denote your faith and must become second class citizens in comparison to muslims. Your possessions can be taken from you at any time. You must feed and shelter any muslim who comes to your house for 4 days. You cannot speak about your religion to anyone, and your church could be destroyed at any time the muslims choose. You cannot build any new churches or fix any existing ones. If you resist any muslim ways or appear to threaten muslims in any way, you will be killed along with your family.

Sounds lovely, right?
 

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and just to clear things up in the quran it does not say to blow urself up in a public place or even shoot anyone or act violent towrds anyone. all it says is sum stories and how to be a good muslim etc. so all that stuff saying bad stuff about the quran is wrong.
The Qur'an is broken up into 2 parts. The early suras "mecca" and the later suras "medina". The meccan suras are peaceful in nature and the medinan suras are violent and terroristic. Muslim scholars decided long ago that the meccan sura were ABROGATED or nullified by the medinan suras and particularly by the verse of the sword
Sura 9:5 said:
But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war).....
There are 124 versus that call for tolerance and patience that have been cancelled and replaced by this single verse.
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In the quran it does not say to retaliate it says people who act bad towards allah will get their own punishment not getting shot etc. just to clear things up:biglaugh:
I suggest you read your Qur'an again because it does say to torture and murder unbelievers.I could quote several Suras for you and I will if you want me to but I would prefer to do it in a thread dedicated to that subject.
 

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I could quote several Suras for you and I will if you want me to but I would prefer to do it in a thread dedicated to that subject.
would you please quote it for me, then?

i am convinced it is just your own interpretation.
 

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The Free Muslim Commission said:
“The Coalition will seek to raise the peaceful voices of Muslims world wide. The terrorist and extremist Muslims will no longer go unchallenged. Their days of sympathetic leaching off the Muslim community are numbered.”